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Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Scintilla posted:

Combat vehicle escape pods are available as experimental tech IIRC.

Do they just fall out of the back of the tank and lay on the ground like a metal turd?

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goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
I hope they shoot out the back, like a giant cannonball.

Scintilla
Aug 24, 2010

I BEAT HIGHFORT
and all I got was this
jackass monkey
Dunno how they work, but according to Sarna there's an amphibious Hunter variant that mounts one. :shrug:

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

A life raft for every tank.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Small request for future scenarios, PTN, can you put some sort of line break between the shooting blocks for the player mechs and OpFor mechs? It's sometimes hard to see whether a nicely made shot is a good or a bad thing without having to cross reference with the status images down below.

AtillatheBum
Oct 6, 2010

Justice ain't gonna dispense itself.

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Small request for future scenarios, PTN, can you put some sort of line break between the shooting blocks for the player mechs and OpFor mechs? It's sometimes hard to see whether a nicely made shot is a good or a bad thing without having to cross reference with the status images down below.

Yea this would be a nice addition, I like to read these updates while doing other stuff and when I glance over the shooting sections I mostly just scan them for crits and destroyed parts; sometimes it can be hard figuring out who just wrecked the poo poo out of who for someone who doesn't know the name/origin/faction of every battletech combat platform ever made :v:.

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Sometimes shooting is done out of order (like with aces) so even just appending a (P) or (O) to each mech's name in the shooting block would help!

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
Has something happened to PTN? This thread has become awful quiet.

:ohdear:

Did PTN fail a consciousness check?
Was he headcapped by a Gauss Writer's Block?

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Z the IVth posted:

Has something happened to PTN? This thread has become awful quiet.

I took a little break to recharge my jump drive. I'm good to go now and I've started writing the next political update / planning the next mission set.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

PoptartsNinja posted:

I took a little break to recharge my jump drive. I'm good to go now and I've started writing the next political update / planning the next mission set.

So back when you first started taking votes for MVPs, did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine that one day a Wasp of all things would wind up winning the vote in a mission?

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

W.T. Fits posted:

So back when you first started taking votes for MVPs, did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine that one day a Wasp of all things would wind up winning the vote in a mission?

That Wasp was the best thing that's happened since Justice Foot and Steiner Rules.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

W.T. Fits posted:

So back when you first started taking votes for MVPs, did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine that one day a Wasp of all things would wind up winning the vote in a mission?

Nope. But I keep throwing things at the wall to see what sticks (I was really hoping that pirate SHD-2D Shadow Hawk would win MVP, but it just didn't come together).

Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."
The best idea and/or the worst idea:

A LP of an Against the Bot mercenary campaign in MekHQ.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Could you elaborate on what "Against the Bot" is? Is that just a name for playing Mega-Mek against a computer opponent? Because if so I assume you'd still have to do all the campaign setting up and writing, so would it just be the single-player version of this thread?

Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."

Dolash posted:

Could you elaborate on what "Against the Bot" is? Is that just a name for playing Mega-Mek against a computer opponent? Because if so I assume you'd still have to do all the campaign setting up and writing, so would it just be the single-player version of this thread?

It is a fairly detailed set of rules for basically running an entire mercenary unit (or pirate, or house unit, but mostly mercs) through battles and campaigns for basically as many months/years as you like, generating the appropriate opfors for each battle via random assignment tables and integrating with MekHQ and Megamek so that things tend to just all work together. Fun tool, I have been using it since it was a set of pen and paper rules where you had to track everything and manually put forces into Megamek for every single battle instead of being able to do things automatically. As an example, I have a game going right now where I have a merc unit around 3027 that has a company of battlemechs and a single pair of ASFs with its own run down Union dropship, it is a few campaigns into its existence and I just accepted a pirate hunting contract out in the Davion outback. Every week while you are on a contract, each lance you have deployed has a random chance of getting involved in a battle you play out against the bot in Megamek, and you keep up with salvage, repair mechs between battles, et cetera.

Mukaikubo fucked around with this message at 06:30 on May 22, 2015

Pladdicus
Aug 13, 2010

Mukaikubo posted:

It is a fairly detailed set of rules for basically running an entire mercenary unit (or pirate, or house unit, but mostly mercs) through battles and campaigns for basically as many months/years as you like, generating the appropriate opfors for each battle via random assignment tables and integrating with MekHQ and Megamek so that things tend to just all work together. Fun tool, I have been using it since it was a set of pen and paper rules where you had to track everything and manually put forces into Megamek for every single battle instead of being able to do things automatically. As an example, I have a game going right now where I have a merc unit around 3027 that has a company of battlemechs and a single pair of ASFs with its own run down Union dropship, it is a few campaigns into its existence and I just accepted a pirate hunting contract out in the Davion outback. Every week while you are on a contract, each lance you have deployed has a random chance of getting involved in a battle you play out against the bot in Megamek, and you keep up with salvage, repair mechs between battles, et cetera.

That sounds amazing. Where do you get these.

Devorum
Jul 30, 2005

Pladdicus posted:

That sounds amazing. Where do you get these.

The latest rules can usually be found on the MegaMek or Catalyst forums. Just search for "Against the Bots rules".

Fair warning, they're a bit dense and the work you need to put in to get a good campaign out of it is not light.

Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."

Devorum posted:

The latest rules can usually be found on the MegaMek or Catalyst forums. Just search for "Against the Bots rules".

Fair warning, they're a bit dense and the work you need to put in to get a good campaign out of it is not light.

Yeah- that is a not insignificant part of why I might LP it, just to give people a relatively painless way to see what it is all about and help people get into it. It is decidedly unfriendly to new people, not because of malice but because so many things are totally undocumented in the best tradition of open software. :v:

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
That sounds amazing and I'd love to see a guide to getting it running in 5 10 25 47 easy steps.

Devorum
Jul 30, 2005

Mukaikubo posted:

Yeah- that is a not insignificant part of why I might LP it, just to give people a relatively painless way to see what it is all about and help people get into it. It is decidedly unfriendly to new people, not because of malice but because so many things are totally undocumented in the best tradition of open software. :v:

I'd enjoy it. Maybe it'd even help me find the motivation to get the AtB campaign I've been considering off the ground!

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Mukaikubo posted:

Yeah- that is a not insignificant part of why I might LP it, just to give people a relatively painless way to see what it is all about and help people get into it. It is decidedly unfriendly to new people, not because of malice but because so many things are totally undocumented in the best tradition of open software. :v:

I really want you to do this. I've used megamek and played on Legends etc. but it's always annoying to try to pull this poo poo together when it's all only loosely documented on other forums (which are, by definition, Bad Forums as compared to SA).

Also I see you edited a post and I'm going to assume it was to remove contractions. I still remember. :v:

KnoxZone
Jan 27, 2007

If I die before I Wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take.

Leperflesh posted:

Also I see you edited a post and I'm going to assume it was to remove contractions. I still remember. :v:

Ahah, holy gently caress. I forgot all about this. Can't believe it has been 4 years since that promise was made. Good times.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

KnoxZone posted:

Ahah, holy gently caress. I forgot all about this. Can't believe it has been 4 years since that promise was made. Good times.

What promise?

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."

Mukaikubo posted:

That clanner is destroying the trees to try to make sure his new bondsman does not cook to death! Making a firebreak... WITH HEAVY WEAPONRY.

That is... that is actually kind of sweet. :3:

Secret Move Activated: Mukai will, as befits the new status of his PC, not use any contractions for the remainder of this thread. If you see him lapsing into lazy speech, correct him as gently or as caustically as you like.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


I love you band of goofy Mech-aficionados. Thanks again, PTN, for this great thread and all the years of great updates.

If it weren't for this LP, I'd have never gotten that account upgrade gambling against Hob!

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
Oh I remember that. Oh wow that was 4 years ago? Jesus.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

I still call Muk on it sometimes when I see them outside of this thread, but I forgot that it doesn't apply anywhere else.

Speaking of other threads Muk, did you ever hear back about a Jeopardy audition after I gave you that email?

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Political Update 18 – The Great Silence

“We have suffered nearly eighty percent casualties, but Chatham is ours.” Warlord Tetsuhara wore more than just the emotional signs of that casualty figure. The right sleeve of his uniform coat had been pinned up to the shoulder. His face was drawn and pale from loss of blood but if the dozen-odd reports from both Davion and Kuritan officers still sitting on Hanse’s desk had been correct Tetsuhara had returned to the fight even after his Dragon had been shot out from under him. His arm might have been saved if he hadn’t chosen to see out the end of the battle in a humble Panther but in choosing to return to the battle his officers had credited him with saving dozens of lives. Tetsuhara hadn’t won the planet single-handedly but that would be a legend Hanse could use.

Tetsuhara bowed as his transmitted message came to a close, “Coordinator-Prince, if your humble servant’s poor performance has displeased you, I ask only that the men and women under my command be spared. They fought bravely and well for the—for the Draconis Suns.”

Behind Hanse, Chandrasekhar Kurita gave his large belly a slap. Standing for extended periods always seemed to pain the man except during moments like these, when his brilliant mind was working on a puzzle. “What will you do, Coordinator-Prince? By all rights, under the old laws of the Draconis Combine, Tetsuhara and his officers should be executed for costing the state so much equipment.”

“Punishing those men and women is the last thing I want to do,” Hanse replied, stroking his chin in thought. “I want every man currently serving in the First Draconis Suns Regimental Combat Team promoted one rank, effective immediately. With a second fast-track promotion in six months if they prove up to the challenge, and I want that combat team brought back to full strength immediately. The Fourth RCT’s scheduled to come on active duty in a month: we’ll cannibalize it for troops and equipment if we have to.”

“The conservative elements of the DCMS will be watching to see that Tetsuhara is appropriately punished for his failure,” Chandrasekhar warned. “Other Warlords may see your action as proof of your weakness—or your madness. Marcus Kurita—”

“Can go straight to hell, as far as I’m concerned,” Hanse glowered. His eyes swept his office like a hawk, looking for some detail he might have overlooked. They settled on the broad shoulders of his BattleMaster, resplendent in the red, blue, and white of the Davion Heavy Guards. Chandrasekhar raised the same objections Janneke had warned him to expect when Tetsuhara’s message had first come in the night before. Hanse hadn’t had an answer for her, then, but he’d found one for Chandrasekhar now. “Tetsuhara lost his BattleMech—”

“Tetsuhara lost the BattleMech given to him by the Coordinator,” Chandrasekhar corrected, perhaps unnecessarily. “

“Then Takashi should have given him something a little more impressive than a Dragon,” Hanse jabbed, before continuing. “Send Tetsuhara my BattleMaster, and this message: He can return it to me once Luthien is back in our hands. At that time, I will decide his fate and not a moment before.”

Chandrasekhar bowed, his lips curling into the faintest hint of a smile. “It will be done—but will it not be difficult for him to pilot a BattleMech with only one arm?”

“Then I suppose we’d better send a few of the NAIS’s doctors along. With one of their new cybernetic replacement limbs.” Hanse shared a smile with Chandrasekhar. “That ought to show Marcus Kurita where my confidence lies. I’m not about to execute a man who’s shown me he has what it takes to win us this war. I fear we’re going to be lucky if we walk away from Luthien with only eighty percent casualties.”



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“I am going to kill that fool Asa Taney,” Natasha Kerensky hissed. She struck the side of the holotank with one balled fist, her knuckles white with her rage. The Hell’s Horses scouts had confirmed the Ice Hellions had abandoned their illegal holdings in the Inner Sphere but there had been no communications from the homeworlds since his departure. The other invading Clans had reported the same: they had received nothing from their worlds back in Clan space. Admittedly, something may have happened to one of the HPGs along the Exodus Road, but Kerensky was doubtful. They had secondary transmitters and receivers, the silence for a day or two would not have been unusual but two weeks should have been impossible.

“Be cautious, ilKhan,” saKhan Jon Vordermark cautioned. “We have no proof that Taney has committed a wrong.”

“I do not need proof,” Kerensky’s soft voice dripped with more venom than a Steel Viper. “The Ice Hellions have sabotaged our HPG network to punish us for driving them from the Inner Sphere. It would take a blind surat not to see that.”

“If that is so,” Khan Garth Radick cautioned, “They will lie in ambush for any unit we send after them. We must go in force or not at all.”

Seething, Kerensky paced her office like a tiger. The Khans of the Widowmakers watched her pass back and forth as though she were precisely that. Her balled fists would not have made respectable claws, but neither could match Natasha Kerensky in a BattleMech. She calmed almost as quickly as her rage blossomed, turning on Garth Radick to spear him with eyes like PPCs.

“The Steel Vipers will barely be hindered by this, their laughable ‘Task Force Serpent’ has an abundance of material. And the Jade Falcons are fresh, so we must emulate the Goliath Scorpions by necessity. Order our soldiers to strip all ammunition-based weapons from their machines. We shall use captured Inner Sphere energy weapons if we must, but we must not allow our progress to slow. What is our status in the periphery?”

Radick’s eyes fell. “As ordered. Our fleet has finished their duty: the largest cities on all rebellious worlds have been… excised. Organized rebellion has ended on every world the Burrocks have not already secured.”

The Khan swallowed and added, “Star Admiral Harrison Karrige has requested reassignment to a front-line Solamha company.”

Natasha Kerensky sucked in a breath, and let it out slowly. “Granted. See to it that his replacement actually has a spine. Our task is paramount and we will not rest until Terra has been reduced to a cinder: the Inner Sphere will know the rage of Kerensky and despair.”



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“I told you,” the white-robed woman sat low in her usual chair, her hood concealing all but her badly-scarred chin and lips. She was not a Khan, was not even a warrior, and yet she sat at Khan Breen’s side in the council of Task Force Serpent’s Khans with all the relaxed confidence of a woman who thought everyone in the room was dancing to her strings. What made SaKhan Dusk Moffat most nervous was the thought: their white-robed advisor might be correct.

ilKhan Kerensky doesn’t plan for setbacks,” the robed woman continued. “They frustrate her—with her warships diverted to her rear lines, the Goliath Scorpions challenging for every world they border, and no way to know when her supply shipments will arrive she will begin lashing out blindly.”

“This is an opportunity,” Kahn Natalie Breen interjected. “Our own lines of communication are intact?”

Khan Cassius N’Buta of the Cloud Cobras tipped his head in acknowledgement. “Of course. We would not have proceeded unprepared, but the strain of maintaining the Path of Return may be more than the Cloud Cobra economy can bear for long. And I suspect we have only months—or weeks—before our secret HPG network is discovered.”

The white-robed woman raised a feeble hand. “By Blake’s will, it will be enough. When we reach Terra, it will be as I have said. With Clan technology and the support of ComStar, the great houses will be forced to recognize the Star League’s reformation at last.”

“The Goliath Scorpions still outpace our advance,” Dusk cautioned. “I fear they have gone too long unremarked, suffered too few setbacks,” she turned, regarding the silent bondsman who stood at her side. “At your suggestion we have held our invasion at the border of Skye to negotiate but we cannot allow the Goliath Scorpions to do as they please. Can Skye be made to understand?”

“In the year I have been a Steel Viper, you have shown me many things,” Caesar began slowly. His proud eyes refused to seek the floor even in this council of his betters, “The people of Skye are some of the proudest in the Inner Sphere: but the other Clans will burn them to cinders. I only wish our ambassadors had not engaged that buffoon General Hogarth. I believe my Cousin Melissa and her husband—”



Political Vote 18
A) “will be too frightened by Clan technology to join. As much as it pains me, invasion is our only option.
B) “can be made to see reason. Allow me to communicate with them, and I can explain in a way they will understand. I can convince them to join us
C) “are rational enough, but to them I will be a madman on par with Richard Cameron. Only ComStar can assuage their doubts. They will not listen to me, but Precentor Waterley will have no trouble convincing them.
D) “would sooner join the Free Worlds League than aid us.

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 01:35 on May 23, 2015

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
They orbital bombarded those cities? Holy poo poo.

And goodness, Tetsuhara. What a man. :allears: I can see why some in the thread were fans of him.

Edit: Oh poo poo. Caesar. I wonder which option would be best for Caesar and his buddies? He could probably convince the Clans do something idiotic.

Artificer fucked around with this message at 01:04 on May 23, 2015

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Someone please do the fluffy explaining of these choices. I have not read enough Battletech to even know what they actually are.

edit - Also, I assume that "shin" should be chin and "pecentor" should be precentor/praecentor?

goatface fucked around with this message at 01:25 on May 23, 2015

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




D, but only because I like the FWL.

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

Free WorlDs League forever!

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

B: it's time to start setting up the double cross

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
D The borders could be uglier still! :unsmigghh:

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

B Once a steiner always a steiner.



but d is so TEMPTNG.

MinutePirateBug
Mar 4, 2013
B because I want to see the clusterfuck within the clans that task force viper being super close to Terra would generate. Also, I like FWL and having them absorb Skye means fighting task force Serpent as well as potentially fighting with the Lyrian commonwealth. Marik has enough on his plate dealing with potential ComStar, NRWR and Capellan shenanigans, as well as whatever civil-unrest was generated by letting the clanners pass through FWL space and letting a regiment NRWRs into his knights of the innersphere only to betray him again. Also in general the people who usually do best from war are those who fight as little as possible, let the neighbors murder each other and have the FWL pick up the pieces.

Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


B

I think.

PBJ
Oct 10, 2012

Grimey Drawer
B, because the Inner Sphere response would be hilarious.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.
B.

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GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

B, for the reunion factor

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