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I played TF2 on a first generation surface pro for a while when I was traveling... I had to turn some things down, but it worked well enough.
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wayne curr posted:http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Triclops I played that game until I got the hat, never touched it again.
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May 21, 2015 18:35
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I unironically loved SMNC.
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wayne curr posted:
Oh poo poo!  edit: No really, I didn't know they could do that!
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May 22, 2015 03:37
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If people formed teams and wanted to play for the items, I'd happily get involved.
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May 22, 2015 03:39
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CJacobs posted:Oh poo poo! Spiral Knights was the first one to lock stuff like that.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:If people formed teams and wanted to play for the items, I'd happily get involved. For what it's worth, it's not a bad game. The biggest drawback was the developers making some pretty classic errors trying to monetize classes. The core game play is pretty fun.
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May 22, 2015 07:10
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Uber being Uber, they also had zero clue about game balance.
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Kaal posted:For what it's worth, it's not a bad game. The biggest drawback was the developers making some pretty classic errors trying to monetize classes. The core game play is pretty fun. YA if you read up on the game the devs hosed it all up and then bailed for the consoles. I only ever played it cuz my kids liked it.
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Kaal posted:For what it's worth, it's not a bad game. The biggest drawback was the developers making some pretty classic errors trying to monetize classes. The core game play is pretty fun.  I wish it didn't die so hard. JB50 posted:YA if you read up on the game the devs hosed it all up and then bailed for the consoles. I want to point out how wrong you are about this, but then I realise nobody cares.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:
Dont take my word for it: http://clevermusings.net/2013/01/i-used-to-play-super-mnc/
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 Played a lot of SMNC too. There was a bunch of poo poo, with some not uber's fault and others absolutely uber's fault. -Uber made a game in a business model that really depends on regular content updates : F2P. -5 stacks would GO UP AGAINST NON-5-STACKS AND gently caress UP PEOPLE SO HARD THEY WOULD QUIT THE GAME -Game was sort of like MNC, but tried a bunch of new poo poo enough to alienate most MNC players with stuff. -Was a shooter (hybrid dotaclone shooter, sure, but a shooter) with essentially two or three maps at it's prime and you couldn't select which map you wanted to play. -Game update would require redownloading almost the entire game. -Allegedly accidentally released the game, and instead of putting it back into beta where it remains free of criticism via "its just a beta!", they kept it released making people believe that this was the 1.0 they wanted to deliver in exchange for a very slight playerbase boost (could have gone open beta for that). -Aimbots with no anti-cheat led to a volunteer system being pretty much the only source of getting rid of cheaters. -No spectating for a game that wanted to be an e-sport. -Userbase might have had some people who were supportive, but others were a mix of the worst of shooter communities and the worst of dota communities : they would play in 5 stacks that would GO UP AGAINST NON-5-STACKS AND gently caress UP PEOPLE SO HARD THEY WOULD QUIT THE GAME -Game had a TF2 crosspromo and still died. They probably should have just made the game a $15 game for PC + Consoles (they probably could have gotten it on 360 at least) with 1 or 2 new maps and the rest being "borrowed" MNC maps at launch, and any cuts/changes required to get the game out on consoles would probably be well worth it. Shitty Wizard fucked around with this message at 07:59 on May 22, 2015 |
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I liked SMNC a lot but as other people covered pretty well, the devs screwed up really bad in a lot of ways and ran a promising game into the ground before it really had a chance. I keep hoping they'll do an MNC2 or relaunch SMNC or something but it's clear by now that Uber has just abandoned the franchise entirely.
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JB50 posted:Dont take my word for it: I won't - Mainly because it's fundamentally wrong. They didn't "Ditch SMNC for consoles" because - They didn't. lovely Wizard posted:
More truth in this post than the entire article you linked.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:I won't - Mainly because it's fundamentally wrong. They didn't "Ditch SMNC for consoles" because - They didn't. Well they ditched it, not for consoles, but they ditched it. Last update on their news page is from 3/15/2013 JB50 fucked around with this message at 08:08 on May 22, 2015 |
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Didn't they make Loadout though? I remember playing it and thinking "wow, I hate this. Also it's kinda like SMNC."
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JB50 posted:Well they ditched it, not for consoles, but they ditched it. That's closer to the truth. They ditched SMNC because the game rotted away from within. An irredeemably toxic community stomped the life out of whatever fledgling player base was starting to flourish - the game got influxes of players from TF2 promos, gaming website giveaways - even total biscuit had a special weekend and in-game items added in his honor, and a crack team of assholes united to make sure that every new wave of players was welcomed with cheap, lovely tactics and exploited bugs - making games insufferable and awful, any reach out for help was derided and mocked - even the internal testing team was majority made up of pricks and scoundrels. The game was a good concept, on shaky ground that could have been salvaged and made great, but the very people playing it didn't want to share their toys and instead opted for mutually assured destruction. Why do I know this poo poo? Because I was a mega fanboy that visited UBER hq personally to talk to the team behind SMNC and get their view on it. SMNC is a lot of things, but at it's core it just....sad. Theta Zero posted:Didn't they make Loadout though? I remember playing it and thinking "wow, I hate this. Also it's kinda like SMNC." Different team/company (Edge of Reality), but Loadout did use the UBERnet framework for online stuff. I think there was some collegial interaction between the companies, but nothing that was actually considered joint development.
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Nah, Loadout was made by Edge of Reality. They made pretty much the same mistakes with Loadout as Uber did with SMNC though; enabling pubstomping, lovely business model, no anticheat. The latter was compounded by the best weapon combination in the game being a hitscan laser.
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What's a 5 stack
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Collateral Damage posted:Nah, Loadout was made by Edge of Reality. They made pretty much the same mistakes with Loadout as Uber did with SMNC though; enabling pubstomping, lovely business model, no anticheat. The latter was compounded by the best weapon combination in the game being a hitscan laser. That and they took too long to make content or patch as well. More games just need to imitate Warframe and just patch as fast as you loving can and not care about consequences as long as it's not breaking the entirety of the game. Run while making GBS threads aka push out stuff as fast as you can if you're going to be a F2P game. IronicDongz posted:What's a 5 stack A full party of 5 players, it's like if you brought in 12 players who are you and your friends to play against 12 random pubbies.
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Video games are so weird. I have played 100 times as many hours with the in game scout socks and hat that I got from monday night combat than the actual game itself. This applies to worms and a total war game as well.
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The SMNC announcers might have been the best voiceovers in any game I've ever played and it depresses the hell out of me that I'll never hear their mid round banter ever again.
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I'm glad their last kickstarter failed. They hosed up SMNC, abandoned it, made Planetary Annihilation, hosed that up, and then tried abandoning it for a new game. RIP Cheston: too good for this world
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Grapplejack posted:I'm glad their last kickstarter failed. They hosed up SMNC, abandoned it, made Planetary Annihilation, hosed that up, and then tried abandoning it for a new game. What was the deal with both of those?
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I forget why I never got around to playing SMNC, even after enjoying MNC. Didn't Uber do something stupid like hide a Bitcoin miner in the code and play it off as an April Fools' joke?
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To continue the derail somewhat, is or has there been any other first person moba? I quite enjoyed the basic gameplay of SMNC.
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Collateral Damage posted:To continue the derail somewhat, is or has there been any other first person moba? I quite enjoyed the basic gameplay of SMNC. Orcs Must Die 3 is third person but basically that.
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Anarch posted:I forget why I never got around to playing SMNC, even after enjoying MNC. Didn't Uber do something stupid like hide a Bitcoin miner in the code and play it off as an April Fools' joke? Collateral Damage posted:Nah, Loadout was made by Edge of Reality. They made pretty much the same mistakes with Loadout as Uber did with SMNC though; enabling pubstomping, lovely business model, no anticheat. The latter was compounded by the best weapon combination in the game being a hitscan laser.
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The Kins posted:You missed the bit where they released a MvM-style co-op mode in beta for testing for a while... then removed the beta, made the new game mode exclusive to the PS4 version, and fired their PC dev team.
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I tried playing Loadout once and got really bored really quick cause pretty much all my options were damage beams or heal beams and everyone else was better with beams than me.
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Yup. We've got this awesome weapon customization system where you can build all kinds of neat guns! ... except the only gun worth a drat is a beam sniper which reduces the game to (to paraphrase ZP) a point and click adventure game where the only puzzle is "Use Gun on Man"
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The only innovation Loadout came up with that every game in the world needs to copy is that taunting while standing on a capture zone makes it capture faster. It's genius.. you get a little bonus if you do it, but are unable to respond to attacks. And everyone gets to see goofy animations!
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I would have loved to try other weapons, gently caress beams, the problem was that I didn't have any.
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xzzy posted:The only innovation Loadout came up with that every game in the world needs to copy is that taunting while standing on a capture zone makes it capture faster. the best taunt was the pole dance:  if you were close enough to a capture point, instead of just making a pole appear your character would snap to the capture point's pole spinning naked around a pole to capture a point faster while people shoot lasers at you is a good gameplay experience
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I switched over from Valve servers to Skial and I'm getting owned real bad! Help!!
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notZaar posted:I switched over from Valve servers to Skial and I'm getting owned real bad! Help!! pay them money so the owned becomes the owner
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Skial doesn't have any donator bullshit, at least not anymore. You're thinking of saigns. Skial is now pretty typical pub experience, just a notch above Valve servers I'd say.
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Yeah saigns had the pay to win stuff. Skial was the one that used to fake player counts but I don't think they do that anymore.
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SMNC was probably one of my favorite, consistent games to group up with people. The Reticulated Splines mumble always had a full group going each night for like 6 months straight. Honestly though we were just a part of the problem because it'd be rare for us to lose, I imagine it's an issue with many team based shooters though that competent goons team up for. SMNC I had like a 200-75 record but Titanfall it was like 150-15 and that game failed in a pretty similar way. Pretty weird popping into the TF2 thread after a couple years and seeing SMNC talk haha
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Lblitzer posted:I imagine it's an issue with many team based shooters though that competent goons team up for. SMNC I had like a 200-75 record but Titanfall it was like 150-15 and that game failed in a pretty similar way.
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