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How are you going to vote on May 7th?
This poll is closed.
Conservative 72 6.22%
Labour 410 35.41%
Liberal Democrat 46 3.97%
UKIP 69 5.96%
Green 199 17.18%
SNP 121 10.45%
DUP 0 0%
Sinn Fein 35 3.02%
Plaid Cymru 20 1.73%
Respect 3 0.26%
Monster Raving Loony 56 4.84%
BNP 23 1.99%
Some flavour of socialist party 37 3.20%
Some flavour of communist party 27 2.33%
Independent 3 0.26%
Other 37 3.20%
Total: 1158 votes
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Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Cerv posted:

condolences

It's OK it just cements my claim as the authentic working class voice of this thread.

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Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Seaside Loafer posted:

True story I lost my virginity to a John Lewis cashier in 1992 and she went on to become a manager while the rest of us muppets were doing a-levels, that woman has sucessfully demonstrated that a person does not need higher education to become a success in the heady world of retail.

all you need is experience in loving the workers

Pork Pie Hat
Apr 27, 2011
Weren't all the polls pretty much right as long as you took their lowest estimate for Labour and their highest for the Tories and counted in the margin of error?

I mean, sure, those are a couple of big ifs, but it was people's interpretations of what the polls said that was wrong, not the actual numbers?

Is this going to be another "Labour crashed the economy/spent all the money!" lie that just gets repeated and repeated until it's somehow accepted as fact? It is, isn't it.

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

Hoops posted:

I used to sort of avoid Waitrose out of bare-faced chip on my shoulder working class pride, but their sandwiches are actually nicer than other supermarkets so if I'm near one at lunchtime I'll get something tasty.
i had a chip on my shoulder about waitrose until a) i learnt it and john lewis were cooperatives and b) i got rich

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
With Labour, Lib Dems half the Tories and the SNP all working to secure the UK's future in the EU I'm not concerned about the result going the right way.

Especially with Nicola leading the charge for a No vote

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
shop assistant's wages (from glassdoor, using whatever's the most reported title)

code:
aldi          £7.94
lidl          £7.28
tesco         £7.11
m&s           £7.09
waitrose      £7.01
sainsbury's   £6.89
asda          £6.72
morrison's    £6.59
waitrose you disappoint me

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

coffeetable posted:

shop assistant's wages (from glassdoor, using whatever's the most reported title)

aldi: £7.94
lidl: £7.28
tesco: £7.11
m&s: £7.09
waitrose: £7.01
sainsbury's: £6.89
asda: £6.72
morrison's: £6.59

waitrose you disappoint me
Don't they get a profit share as well though?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I believe they do, yes, as well as a much better set of benefits than most shops.

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
nb if you are an employee and you haven't registered + posted a review on glassdoor, you are a dumbdumb

http://www.glassdoor.com/index.htm

all the benefits of everyone knowing everyone else's salary w/o any of the very british awkwardness of discussing £££

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

Hoops posted:

I used to sort of avoid Waitrose out of bare-faced chip on my shoulder working class pride, but their sandwiches are actually nicer than other supermarkets so if I'm near one at lunchtime I'll get something tasty.

John Lewis partnership is literally the best possible form of private enterprise lmao

The employees own the company and are paid well and treated well (afaik)

Would rather spend money there than at Walmart UK aka asda or tesco "fraud r us"

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
I shop at Asda because it combines value with choice.

Aromatic Stretch
Nov 4, 2009
Waitrose make their staff dress like twats.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Pissflaps posted:

It's OK it just cements my claim as the authentic working class voice of this thread.

I beat you, it's 75 miles from my house to the nearest Waitrose, and about 85 miles to the nearest Marks and Spencer.

I remember some tourists asking me where the Marks and Spencer was in Oban and the look of disbelief (and possibly fear) when I told them there wasn't one.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Aromatic Stretch posted:

Waitrose make their staff dress like twats.
They all do though dont they, Waitrose's are a bit snappier though

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

hookerbot 5000 posted:

I beat you, it's 75 miles from my house to the nearest Waitrose, and about 85 miles to the nearest Marks and Spencer.

I remember some tourists asking me where the Marks and Spencer was in Oban and the look of disbelief (and possibly fear) when I told them there wasn't one.

Yeah but you probably live in the sticks somewhere that's cheating.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Asda uniforms are annoying because they're mostly black and people keep assuming I work there.

Though they also do that in morrisons for some reason so maybe customers are idiots.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Somebody once attempted to push ahead of me in the queue at Staples because I was wearing a red tshirt.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


A Black Mark For Retarded Posting
Once in McDonald's a woman handed me her tray to put in the bin because I was wearing an IKEA uniform.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Did you do it?

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
Tesco are the worst for ritually humiliating their staff imo. I stopped going into the Metro one near where I used to live because the staff were made to engage customers in conversation and ask them where they lived, why there were shopping there that day and what they thought would improve their shopping experience. It was very obvious they didn't want to be doing it, and a lot of people told them to gently caress off. The place had no bakery or fresh food counters but they made the poor bastards who were stacking the meat fridges and bread aisles dress up as butchers/bakers. Also they now seem to have people standing about holding "HERE TO HELP" lollypops. It's as if the people responsible for coming up with these ideas haven't the first clue about human nature or British culture.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Would have been rude not to at that point

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

You're not supposed to put the trays in the bin. They reuse those.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Pissflaps posted:

It's OK it just cements my claim as the authentic working class voice of this thread.

I'd rather have delicious pizza for dinner & free tea for breakfast.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

the worst stewie posted:

Tesco are the worst for ritually humiliating their staff imo. I stopped going into the Metro one near where I used to live because the staff were made to engage customers in conversation and ask them where they lived, why there were shopping there that day and what they thought would improve their shopping experience. It was very obvious they didn't want to be doing it, and a lot of people told them to gently caress off. The place had no bakery or fresh food counters but they made the poor bastards who were stacking the meat fridges and bread aisles dress up as butchers/bakers. Also they now seem to have people standing about holding "HERE TO HELP" lollypops. It's as if the people responsible for coming up with these ideas haven't the first clue about human nature or British culture.
Grrrr.

Drives me nuts. I did my time behind the till when I was a kid like everyone but what they make people do these days, im actually loving embarrassed to shop at the co-op 2 mins away because they make them say 'do you want a bag with that SIR' and 'hello SIR!' etc etc etc

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If I don't get greeted with "Yaaarite there luv?" when I go to the till I don't feel comfortable.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

OwlFancier posted:

If I don't get greeted with "Yaaarite there luv?" when I go to the till I don't feel comfortable.
It sounds nuts but I really feel uncomfortable with the programmed lines. I know they dont want to do it and have been told they must. I feel guilty for being on the recieving end of their poo poo min wage job. I can feel the loving despair behind the eyes. Ive done the loving job but at least i didnt have to recite the bullshit and force a smile.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


the worst stewie posted:

Tesco are the worst for ritually humiliating their staff imo. I stopped going into the Metro one near where I used to live because the staff were made to engage customers in conversation and ask them where they lived, why there were shopping there that day and what they thought would improve their shopping experience. It was very obvious they didn't want to be doing it, and a lot of people told them to gently caress off. The place had no bakery or fresh food counters but they made the poor bastards who were stacking the meat fridges and bread aisles dress up as butchers/bakers. Also they now seem to have people standing about holding "HERE TO HELP" lollypops. It's as if the people responsible for coming up with these ideas haven't the first clue about human nature or British culture.

I have a large Tesco pretty over the road from me and I have never, ever seen anything remotely like that. Is it something the store managers are free to enforce but don't have to?

Pasco
Oct 2, 2010

Pork Pie Hat posted:

Weren't all the polls pretty much right as long as you took their lowest estimate for Labour and their highest for the Tories and counted in the margin of error?

I mean, sure, those are a couple of big ifs, but it was people's interpretations of what the polls said that was wrong, not the actual numbers?

Is this going to be another "Labour crashed the economy/spent all the money!" lie that just gets repeated and repeated until it's somehow accepted as fact? It is, isn't it.

Nah, the polls were proper hosed, and thankfully even the pollsters themselves aren't trying to deny it.

Any individual poll getting the result 'wrong' to the tune of 3 points in either direction would be expected. For the entire industry to consistently be out by that much (or more) over the 90ish polls done during the campaign, or the 10ish done on the day, points to there being something systematically wrong.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
It could be worse. When I did a mystery shop at Abercrombie and Fitch the topless guys at the entrance had to ask every customer "What's going on?"

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Seaside Loafer posted:

Grrrr.

Drives me nuts. I did my time behind the till when I was a kid like everyone but what they make people do these days, im actually loving embarrassed to shop at the co-op 2 mins away because they make them say 'do you want a bag with that SIR' and 'hello SIR!' etc etc etc
I used to work at a BP M&S and we had to do this poo poo all the time. And if you think that you're above it and can be a little more adaptable with the requirements for every interaction you have, they'll eventually catch you out with a secret customer and put the results in the staff area so everyone gets to see just how badly you were graded, and after that your manager has to put you through a "counseling session" to help you improve your performance.

I genuinely enjoyed working retail for most of the time I did it because you would spend most of your time either talking with customers or just playing about with the other staff, but I so badly hated the way they wanted the staff managed.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Gorn Myson posted:

I used to work at a BP M&S and we had to do this poo poo all the time. And if you think that you're above it and can be a little more adaptable with the requirements for every interaction you have, they'll eventually catch you out with a secret customer and put the results in the staff area so everyone gets to see just how badly you were graded, and after that your manager has to put you through a "counseling session" to help you improve your performance.

I genuinely enjoyed working retail for most of the time I did it because you would spend most of your time either talking with customers or just playing about with the other staff, but I so badly hated the way they wanted the staff managed.
Oh my loving god. I dunno what to say. Given the push to make everyone a loving service sector worker is there any sort of union thing going on?

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I have a large Tesco pretty over the road from me and I have never, ever seen anything remotely like that. Is it something the store managers are free to enforce but don't have to?

It might have been something they were doing in badly performing stores? It was one of the ones they closed down recently, and all that bollocks started a few years ago when the Tesco bubble burst.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Seaside Loafer posted:

Oh my loving god. I dunno what to say. Given the push to make everyone a loving service sector worker is there any sort of union thing going on?
There's Usdaw, but I'm not sure what their membership is like among the big box retailers. Maybe they need some sort of standardized robot script to improve their unity of message.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Pissflaps posted:

Yeah but you probably live in the sticks somewhere that's cheating.

I've been Oban. It has a Waterstones! It's the only place of civilisation for about 100 miles. poo poo is hosed up.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Pissflaps posted:

I shop at Asda because it combines value with choice.

asda are owned by walmart who literally take life insurance policies out on their staff and make money when they die and don't give any of that to the families

e/

okay so the wheeze was they give a certain amount to the families and pocket the difference - I forgot the details:

Even when employees are informed about the insurance, they may be unaware that the company stands to benefit more than they themselves, or that the offer of free insurance to get them to consent is not protected under federal benefits law. Employers can cancel it at any time.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. took out COLI on about 350,000 of its workers in the 1990s, offering $5,000 in life insurance to those who agreed to be covered. Only 500 asked to be excluded, a spokesman says. The brochure that Wal-Mart gave to employees noted that the company would provide the benefits "as a result of financial gains from life insurance policies Wal-Mart will purchase ... [that] will result in the financial benefits for the corporation." But the brochure didn't make it clear that the company expected to receive a benefit far outstripping the death benefit it offered workers. "We could have communicated more," a Wal-Mart spokesman says now. In 1998, the company canceled the $5,000 benefit for workers.

Last year, Jane Sims filed suit against Wal-Mart in U.S. District Court in Houston, alleging that the company didn't have an insurable interest in her late husband, Doug, a Wal-Mart distribution center worker in Plainview, Texas, whose death at age 47 in 1998 brought $64,504 in insurance benefits to the company. The case is pending.


http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/april_19.htm

JFairfax fucked around with this message at 05:26 on May 25, 2015

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

DrWrestling69 posted:

I like percy pigs.

They are awful, I say this as someone who is borderline addicted to Haribos. M&S does have a lot of decent products though, I will admit going in there now and again when I'm at home for their venison sausages and rhubarb and custard drink.

Malcolm XML is right about Waitrose treating its employees best but unfortunately their stuff is expensive and they have a really poor presence in the north. I've only seen one in Sandbach (where I applied for a job once, the interviewer showed up to a JC+ workshop a few weeks later, she looked mortified) although there are a few more in the North East and near Manchester.

IMO go to Aldi for most of your stuff and get some bits and pieces from wherever else.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cf4c87a8-022f-11e5-92ce-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3b4i4zDfG

quote:

Downing Street has announced that EU citizens living in Britain will be barred from voting in the UK referendum on European membership that has been promised by the end of 2017.
As the Labour party performed a U-turn, dropping its opposition to the vote, government officials confirmed that voting protocols would be based on the general election franchise — which excludes EU citizens — rather than the local elections franchise, which does allow European nationals to take part.
However, members of the House of Lords and Commonwealth citizens who are resident in the UK and Gibraltar will be permitted to vote. As a result, Maltese and Cypriots living in Britain will participate, as will residents from Ireland, a former Commonwealth member, but other EU citizens will not.
Filthy eurocommies stay out of British 'mockracy!

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

Those absolute FUCKERS.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
wonder why Labour dropped opposition to the vote

it's basically a free dice-roll for a Tory embarrassment with no downsides, since the Tories will have to whip hard to make sure that the business Tories don't revolt

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a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

ronya posted:

wonder why Labour dropped opposition to the vote

it's basically a free dice-roll for a Tory embarrassment with no downsides, since the Tories will have to whip hard to make sure that the business Tories don't revolt

The lib dems and greens also support the referendum so it was garaunteed to get through. Opposing it was a token move but by backing it they have a chance to influence its implementation and appear to be on the right side of history.

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