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How are you going to vote on May 7th?
This poll is closed.
Conservative 72 6.22%
Labour 410 35.41%
Liberal Democrat 46 3.97%
UKIP 69 5.96%
Green 199 17.18%
SNP 121 10.45%
DUP 0 0%
Sinn Fein 35 3.02%
Plaid Cymru 20 1.73%
Respect 3 0.26%
Monster Raving Loony 56 4.84%
BNP 23 1.99%
Some flavour of socialist party 37 3.20%
Some flavour of communist party 27 2.33%
Independent 3 0.26%
Other 37 3.20%
Total: 1158 votes
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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

ronya posted:

wonder why Labour dropped opposition to the vote

it's basically a free dice-roll for a Tory embarrassment with no downsides, since the Tories will have to whip hard to make sure that the business Tories don't revolt

They actually think rejection of Miliband was a rejection of left wing politics and are going full speed into "lets just copy the tories" territory. They have learned nothing. They don't even know why they lost. Apparently none of them read any papers and haven't yet detected how loving unified and effective the right wing hatchet job was.

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thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo
Related to that story, from the BBC version of it, is this little gem:

quote:

But Conservative backbencher John Redwood told the Today programme it would be "wrong to hijack" the referendum to extend the vote to groups not previously included in the franchise.

And he said it was "a myth put around by the pro-Europeans" that 16 and 17-year-olds were interested in the issue of Europe.

Oh, I dunno John, maybe try and talk to them and tell them why it's important and the like and loving engage with them?

Christ.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


16 and 17 year olds aren't interested in stuff, therefore we can't let them vote on it because... they'd definitely turn up and vote the "wrong way" en masse? Just to show how little they care?

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

sebzilla posted:

16 and 17 year olds aren't interested in stuff, therefore we can't let them vote on it because... they'd definitely turn up and vote the "wrong way" en masse? Just to show how little they care?

gently caress you, dad! I'm voting for our country to remain part of an economic and political union and reap the benefits rather than pander to the lowest common denominator of irrational xenophobia, and I don't care if you ground me!

a pipe smoking dog posted:

HMS For Too Long We Have Been a Passively Tolerant Society

Needs More Gravitas.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

They seem really keen on leaving the EU

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
YES

no more dumb island dwellers making GBS threads up Brussels ~~~

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you
Seriously, my EU national wife is going to be pissed. Oh well, time to leave the UK! :v:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Pesmerga posted:

Seriously, my EU national wife is going to be pissed. Oh well, time to leave the UK! :v:

Just wait another couple of years, you'll get a free train ticket.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Pesmerga posted:

Seriously, my EU national wife is going to be pissed. Oh well, time to leave the UK! :v:

still seems the vote's being put off till 2017. maybe enough time for her to get a british citizenship in addition to whichever.
if she's really pissed off enough to spend that much on fees.

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

Cerv posted:

still seems the vote's being put off till 2017. maybe enough time for her to get a british citizenship in addition to whichever.
if she's really pissed off enough to spend that much on fees.

It's more the fact that living and working here, paying taxes into the system and getting involved in the local community, she resents the fact that she's unable to vote in general elections (I'm with her on that, I really think that these days, voting on the basis of residence makes more sense than nationality). The fact that as important a decision as whether the country where she lives, resides and works stays in the EU or not is one that is being foreclosed to her is not making her happy. Putting it mildly.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
Additional restrictions on voting in the referendum: 16-17 year olds won't be allowed to vote, but UK emigrants ex-pats will provided they haven't spent more than 15 consecutive years living abroad: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/25/eu-referendum-voting-rights-not-extended-all-uk-citizens-abroad

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Pesmerga posted:

It's more the fact that living and working here, paying taxes into the system and getting involved in the local community, she resents the fact that she's unable to vote in general elections (I'm with her on that, I really think that these days, voting on the basis of residence makes more sense than nationality). The fact that as important a decision as whether the country where she lives, resides and works stays in the EU or not is one that is being foreclosed to her is not making her happy. Putting it mildly.

I can see why EU citizens aren't getting to vote in the referendum. It stops economic migrants coming over now and setting up shop to make sure they can continue to do so. This probably isn't going to happen, but removing the possibility kicks a leg out from under UKIP when we vote to stay in.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

I agree with 16 and 17 year olds not being allowed to vote because teenagers are loving idiots.

Lugaloco
Jun 29, 2011

Ice to see you!

Ludicro posted:

I agree with 16 and 17 year olds not being allowed to vote because teenagers are loving idiots.

This can be applied to all age groups.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
The age-idiocy relationship may or may not be U shaped.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

PiCroft posted:

I was going to suggest names from Ian Banks' novels for the carriers to try and sound intellectual but it would be a lie. My vote is for the HMS Killdeath McNukington.
This is pretty much exactly the sort of name the Culture would give a warship, though

edit: beaten like an Idiran

Zephro fucked around with this message at 10:59 on May 25, 2015

awesome-express
Dec 30, 2008

Cerv posted:

still seems the vote's being put off till 2017. maybe enough time for her to get a british citizenship in addition to whichever.
if she's really pissed off enough to spend that much on fees.

I'm in a similar boat. My parents moved here 10 years ago and lol I gotta apply for citizenship just to cover my rear end. Thing is, I've been travelling to the U.S. so often after graduating from uni that I probably will have broken the 5 year minimum stay requirement.

I also drop £20k in corporate tax every year but I'm still a dirty eurocommie :awesomelon:


Edit: commonwealth voting is dumb dumb dumb and should go away forever. It's the last shambling remnant of the empire that shouldn't even be a thing in TYOOL 2015

awesome-express fucked around with this message at 11:08 on May 25, 2015

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jedit posted:

Just wait another couple of years, you'll get a free train ticket.
:godwin:

suburban virgin
Jul 26, 2007
Highly qualified lurker.

blowfish posted:

The age-idiocy relationship may or may not be U shaped.

The bottom of the U is always whatever age you are right now.

www
Aug 4, 2010

good idea, we should have stopped flithy english foreigners living in Scotland from voting on our referendum considering they were more likely to vote for the wrong result.

hyper from Pixie Sticks
Sep 28, 2004


Low-hanging fruit, I know...

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Posted from Manhattan, NY.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
hospital is being investigated after a hacksaw was allegedly used to amputate a leg

A surgeon is being investigated after allegedly using an old hacksaw to amputate a patient's leg.

An elderly patient was admitted to Ayr Hospital in Scotland for a routine operation, but a metal plate was unexpectedly found in his leg.

In an astonishing turn of events, a staff member was sent to a local B&Q store to find equipment to conduct the operation.

But as the operation was being carried out after 9pm, the store was closed. Instead, a hacksaw from old stock stored in a hospital cupboard is thought to have been used.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11627214/Patients-leg-allegedly-amputated-with-hacksaw.html

kapparomeo
Apr 19, 2011

Some say his extreme-right links are clearly known, even in the fascist capitalist imperialist Murdochist press...
It sounds like they did the best they could in a highly unusual situation - they couldn't close up the leg again and wait until morning after it had already been partway cut off before hitting the plate. It goes on to say that the investigation isn't concerned with the tool used to complete the operation but rather why information about the plate wasn't passed on to the surgical team before the operation - it comes across as a bureaucratic fault rather than a medical one, although I have a medic friend who'd still be a bit wary about using a tool like that even after it had been disinfected.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Yeah I think its fantastic, I mean after you cut half way through someone's leg you really need to finish the job.

Needs must and all that.

Surprised the tone in that particular paper didn't seem to revel in the fact that it harked back to the surgeons who worked on Britain's great battlefields!

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






To be honest, that news story just made even more eager for the second season of The Knick.

Aromatic Stretch
Nov 4, 2009
All the tools used in bone surgery look like they could be found in B&Q.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

Petition for :smug: to be renamed :louisemensch: ?

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Silly phone double post

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

Zero Gravitas posted:

Petition for :smug: to be renamed :louisemensch: ?

Maybe :fsmug: would be more appropriate in the circumstances.

You know, like :fsmug: "Letting migrants vote is a kick in the ballots for Britain".

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

I'm growing increasingly despondent trying to find a decent place to rent in Edinburgh. There seems to be gently caress all that's available at a good price (up to £600 but ideally more toward the £550 bracket).

Any help from Scot-goons would be appreciated. Looking through citylets is making me depressed.

I could absolutely kill the squatter in our current flat share that has managed to cause this situation.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

WMain00 posted:

I'm growing increasingly despondent trying to find a decent place to rent in Edinburgh. There seems to be gently caress all that's available at a good price (up to £600 but ideally more toward the £550 bracket).

Any help from Scot-goons would be appreciated. Looking through citylets is making me depressed.

I could absolutely kill the squatter in our current flat share that has managed to cause this situation.

Welcome to Edinburgh. A friend of mine recently got told to vacate on the minimum legally permitted notice. She's on benefits, in a wheelchair and has a dog, so you can imagine how much fun that was.

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

Jedit posted:

Welcome to Edinburgh. A friend of mine recently got told to vacate on the minimum legally permitted notice. She's on benefits, in a wheelchair and has a dog, so you can imagine how much fun that was.

Ahh my sympathies :smith:

Places in Edinburgh are shite - it either ranges from hellhole to literal-box-room. I've found all of one place that could be described as reasonable.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
My Edinburger friends would sympathise, they have nothing but scorn for the majority of Edinburgh's landlords.+

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

The difference between what you get here and what's available over at Glasgow is pretty stark. Pity it wouldn't be affordable for me to commute in >_<

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead

WMain00 posted:

I'm growing increasingly despondent trying to find a decent place to rent in Edinburgh. There seems to be gently caress all that's available at a good price (up to £600 but ideally more toward the £550 bracket).
Maybe I'm missing something from my southern fastness, but why are you searching on an obscure site like citylets rather than rightmove, which seems to have loads more listings?

Alertrelic
Apr 18, 2008


Apparently allowing EU citizens the vote would be an “unacceptable dilution of the voice of the British people.”

Interesting to imagine the response if the SNP had used similar rhetoric during the Scottish referendum.

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

LemonDrizzle posted:

Maybe I'm missing something from my southern fastness, but why are you searching on an obscure site like citylets rather than rightmove, which seems to have loads more listings?

They list the same information really - I believe citylets is quicker to update in relation to things in Scotland, but honestly I'm trying every website.

Just arranged a viewing for a place in Linlithgow.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

WMain00 posted:

They list the same information really - I believe citylets is quicker to update in relation to things in Scotland, but honestly I'm trying every website.

Just arranged a viewing for a place in Linlithgow.

You could also try Polmont, a little further up the train line. Failing that, Falkirk/Bathgate?

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Touchdown Boy
Apr 1, 2007

I saw my friend there out on the field today, I asked him where he's going, he said "All the way."

Alertrelic posted:

Apparently allowing EU citizens the vote would be an “unacceptable dilution of the voice of the British people.”

Interesting to imagine the response if the SNP had used similar rhetoric during the Scottish referendum.

Even Scottish "racism"* has the audacity to be different!

*as levied against us by the UK press.

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