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"I expected it to be bad" doesn't negate "it is bad". PSWII60 didn't come across as complaining, just, y'know, providing thread content.
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/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Yes, exactly. Dillbag posted:Am I reading this right and you're saying you paid $8,500 for a house and you are complaining that it is poorly built/maintained? I'm not complaining at all. I just thought some of you guys would find it funny.
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May 26, 2015 01:46
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Dillbag posted:Am I reading this right and you're saying you paid $8,500 for a house and you are complaining that it is poorly built/maintained? I think paid is the right way to phrase it. Because bought certainly isn't. Quit claims are pretty sketchy and can leave you in limbo for a long time. Not sure how much money I would put into a property in that sort of "ownership" status.
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May 26, 2015 01:56
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I'm surprised an inspector wouldn't catch the wiring or plumbing thing. Yikes that sucks. Having potential fire hazards or sudden flooding problems was the only thing that worried me when I was looking for my house. The quit claim thing is scary but I assume you know what you got into there.
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May 26, 2015 02:14
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Can someone explain quit claims for the interested layman?
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May 26, 2015 02:24
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stuxracer posted:I'm surprised an inspector wouldn't catch the wiring or plumbing thing. Yikes that sucks. Having potential fire hazards or sudden flooding problems was the only thing that worried me when I was looking for my house. I did, The quit claim stuff is long over and actually was fairly painless. Lots of paperwork though. The inspector I can only guess just signed off on it and didn't bother to physically inspect it. 
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May 26, 2015 02:27
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Splizwarf posted:Can someone explain quit claims for the interested layman? From my reading, it's basically "I'm gonna sell you this house, but I can't prove I own it." So you get the owner's "interest" in the property (whatever that means) instead of an actual title or deed.
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May 26, 2015 02:32
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Fair enough, I didn't mean to suggest that you have no right to complain about deficiencies. But you probably shouldn't be too surprised!
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May 26, 2015 02:53
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Splizwarf posted:Can someone explain quit claims for the interested layman? Essentially the current owner gives up all legal claim or interest in the property. Whoever receives it also gets all back taxes, liens, and other such things along with the property. Yes you can quitclaim a property you do not own because it does not have a guarantee along with it against third party claims. The seller does give up his claim or interest, which is none. If they are the owner it just goes smoothly and the deed gets transferred. Dillbag posted:Fair enough, I didn't mean to suggest that you have no right to complain about deficiencies. But you probably shouldn't be too surprised! I'd have probably passed out from shock if there were't any repairs needed.
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May 26, 2015 02:53
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:From my reading, it's basically "I'm gonna sell you this house, but I can't prove I own it." So you get the owner's "interest" in the property (whatever that means) instead of an actual title or deed. It's more like, "To whatever extent I may or may not own this house, I am selling/granting that to you". For example, if you buy a house at a tax auction, the sheriff isn't necessarily selling you the actual property, he may just be selling you the tax lien (the government's "interest" in the property) and leaving it to the buyer to do what needs to be done to get the proper title recorded. According to Wikipedia, they also come up from time to time in things like divorces where the house is awarded to one spouse and the other may give them a quitclaim deed to their interest to fulfill their obligations to the settlement.
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May 26, 2015 02:57
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Y'all wanna have a memorial day deck party? Just don't get too close to the railings   My neighborhood is ripe with crappy construction fodder.
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May 26, 2015 03:46
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Oh big deal, if it collapses there's a nice big patch of soft squishy... cactus
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May 26, 2015 04:51
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PSWII60 posted:The inspector I can only guess just signed off on it and didn't bother to physically inspect it. So you didn't get it inspected, then. A home inspector doesn't sign off on anything, they give you a report of the conditions they observed.
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May 26, 2015 05:57
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ThLinguica posted:Oh big deal, if it collapses there's a nice big patch of soft squishy... cactus That is spite cacti for building over the property line.
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May 26, 2015 08:17
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PSWII60 posted:Next fun thing I found out when we tried to put shelves up around the upper perimeter of some of the rooms for books/games/movies and such. We measured the shelves to be level, but some books wouldn't fit on one end of the shelf while they'd have 2" of clearance on the other side. So we checked the walls and discovered there is not a single 90 degree angle in the entirety of the house.
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May 26, 2015 08:29
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Collateral Damage posted:To be fair you should never assume your walls are at right angles. Always measure both sides. Hell, in some houses I looked at you'd want to take string and compare corner-to-corner, because some of the rooms looked like parallelograms.
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May 28, 2015 03:13
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Hell, in some houses I looked at you'd want to take string and compare corner-to-corner, because some of the rooms looked like parallelograms.
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May 28, 2015 03:21
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Linguica posted:Isn't that the generally accepted method for measuring squareness?
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May 28, 2015 04:02
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If the room was a surprisingly even/isosceles trapezoid even the corner-to-corner measure might fail you though, I guess. 
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May 28, 2015 04:31
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Traditionally you'd measure the sides being equal before the diagonals. That disqualifies trapezoid and the only parallelogram with equal diagonals is a rectangle.
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May 28, 2015 05:49
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Keep in mind when measuring the inside corner of two meeting walls, that normal plasterwork/wallboarding involves running tape at the seam, and then mudding the tape, and then smoothing and painting over that. E.g., the corner gets filled in a bit. If you just shove a set square into there, you probably won't get a 90 degree angle, but that doesn't necessarily mean the two walls aren't at 90 degrees. That's what stuxracer is saying here: stuxracer posted:Pretty much - if the room doesn't have 4 even corners like an dining room that opens elsewhere you can also do the 3-4-5 method to at least see if the corners are right angles. 3-4-5 refers to the three sides of a right triangle:  Where A and B are the two lines coming from the 90 degree angle, and C is the line connecting them, measure A2 + B2 = C2. If C is off, the angle isn't 90 degrees. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 20:01 on May 28, 2015 |
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May 28, 2015 19:56
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Or for 3/4/5 - measure along three units (doesn't matter which, but bigger is better to get accuracy) on one wall, and four units on the other, making marks at those points. Measure between the marks, it should be 5 units if the corner is square. (unless I've forgotten trigonometry which wouldn't remotely shock me )
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May 28, 2015 20:23
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thespaceinvader posted:Or for 3/4/5 - measure along three units (doesn't matter which, but bigger is better to get accuracy) on one wall, and four units on the other, making marks at those points. Measure between the marks, it should be 5 units if the corner is square. Nope, that's accurate. There are other right-angle triangles you can use, and you can also just measure two points out from the corner, and the hypotenuse between them, and then use Pythagoras to determine if you're square. 3-4-5 is just a convenience method that saves you from having to do a little middle-school arithmetic. (I used 6-8-10 triangles while doing the layout for my workshop project to make certain the corners were square)
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May 28, 2015 20:25
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I feel really cool when I look up a trigonometry concept I've forgotten and then use it in a project. Makes me feel like a gentleman scholar.
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May 28, 2015 21:29
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Suburban tract housing, man.  Sure, lets just grout everything with leftover caulking and then slop some concrete over that to hide it for a year or two, whatever. There are concrete windowsills apparently entirely grouted with caulking, it's magnificent. Ambrose Burnside fucked around with this message at 02:46 on May 29, 2015 |
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May 29, 2015 02:44
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:There are other right-angle triangles you can use, and you can also just measure two points out from the corner, and the hypotenuse between them, and then use Pythagoras to determine if you're square. Just remember any right triangle with sides of 1 has a hypotenuse of 1.41. With this and Pi you can build nearly anything without a calculator.
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May 29, 2015 05:41
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canyoneer posted:I feel really cool when I look up a trigonometry concept I've forgotten and then use it in a project. Makes me feel like a gentleman scholar. I recently used the cosine rule to estimate the height of a tree and was less than 5 % off. I felt pretty smart.
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May 29, 2015 10:07
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I couldn't get on my roof due to having too short of a ladder, so I figured out the angles of my rafters with a level, piece of paper, and trig. I had to look up arcsine and arccosine because I forgot the names. Ended up being pretty drat close, like 1-2° off.
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May 29, 2015 10:25
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Sup guys, I hear PEX is hard http://i.imgur.com/9q7tPl4.jpg Allegedly a licensed plumber did this.
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May 29, 2015 15:26
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canyoneer posted:I feel really cool when I look up a trigonometry concept I've forgotten and then use it in a project. Makes me feel like a gentleman scholar. There are other little measurement tricks you can use while building. For instance, you make sure that any rectangle has square corners if the distance across both diagonals matches. That comes in handy when building walls, etc.
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May 29, 2015 19:26
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As noted juuuust upthread, measuring both diagonals doesn't actually guarantee you have square corners; the room could be trapezoidal. You have to make sure that at least one corner is square in and of itself, too, or make sure that the walls are the same lengths.
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May 29, 2015 19:35
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Look, if you're not using a several-hundred-thousand-dollar LIDAR system to make detailed three dimensional scans of the room, you might as well just be guessing.
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May 29, 2015 19:45
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I wondered if that was a thing, and it turns out that it is. Surprisingly cheap, considering what it can do. http://surveyequipment.com/faro-focus-3d-x-130-laser-scanner/
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May 29, 2015 19:52
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If you're willing to let up on the range and accuracy requirements, you can get the price down to $380.
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May 29, 2015 20:18
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And in a few years, you'll just be able to park your self-driving google car in your living room and get a scan that way!
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May 29, 2015 20:44
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You can already do a pretty decent job with a Kinect or two.
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May 29, 2015 21:24
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Project Tango is now $512. Still in dev mode but it will make a 3d map of a interior space using a IR sensor, some gyros and 2 cameras. Not sure how precise it is at this point though.
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May 29, 2015 21:26
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I live in a 70 year old apartment building. I took one of the bedrooms to become my "train room" to build a big ol' train set in and drew up all the plans to use the space efficiently. I soon learned the walls vary by almost 2" from the front to the back, and the floor slopes about an inch from the walls to the centre. Old buildings!
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Baronjutter posted:I live in a 70 year old apartment building. I took one of the bedrooms to become my "train room" to build a big ol' train set in and drew up all the plans to use the space efficiently. I soon learned the walls vary by almost 2" from the front to the back, and the floor slopes about an inch from the walls to the centre. Old buildings! I wouldn't necessarily blame its age. It could also be badly-constructed! 
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My wife has one of those exercise balls. When we put it in the middle of our living room, it traces a path similar to Nurburgring.
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