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corn in the bible posted:i dont know if theyll arrest sepp or not but yeah under rico you just need proof that the organization partook in organized bribery and stuff. its designed to take down organized crime bosses who rarely, if ever, personally commit the crimes that their organizations practice, because otherwise they could just use plausible deniability to never get arrested. so it's possible the doj is hoping to get some of these guys to turn state's witness and thus take down blatt, but gently caress if i know what they're gonna do I can tell this is a very chill post
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May 27, 2015 16:56
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Yeah if you think they're going to be able to use those Rico statutes, formulated primarily to get Mafia bosses convicted, against sepp Blatter, im not sure what to tell you. You're not talking about an American resident, much less one that stands on street corners telling his employees to murder folk. jfc lol
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May 27, 2015 16:57
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I don't think a big organisation like fifa did anything wrong. I think this has been blown out of proportion by the media.
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May 27, 2015 16:59
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Yeah if you think they're going to be able to use those Rico statutes, formulated primarily to get Mafia bosses convicted, against sepp Blatter, im not sure what to tell you. You're not talking about an American resident, much less one that stands on street corners telling his employees to murder folk. He's already indirectly murdered thousands in Qatar
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May 27, 2015 16:59
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Capt Murphy posted:FIFA is a corrupt shithole. The DOJ has the grounds to bring charges. And they're gonna gently caress em' as hard as they can. And it is glorious and hilarious, not the least of which because it sends all you little gutter rats into a tizzy of profanity and general stupidity. Every single poster in this subforum wants Blatter gone from FIFA, nobody here is mad about the DOJ investigating Football's governing body, just the opposite.
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May 27, 2015 17:00
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track day bro! posted:I don't think a big organisation like fifa did anything wrong. I think this has been blown out of proportion by the media. it has
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May 27, 2015 17:00
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I am getting a contact high from watching y'all's joy. I haven't seen anybody mention that (from the Guardian) Chuck Blazer is seriously ill with colon cancer. Depending on how long ago the diagnosis was, this would be an extremely persuasive motive to roll over: "I'm dying. Do I want to do it in a world-class hospital or in a prison cell?"
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May 27, 2015 17:01
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My dick could cut diamonds today, just lmao fat Jack Warner is going to bring FIFA down I loving love it so much
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May 27, 2015 17:02
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I am getting a contact high from watching y'all's joy. I think it also has a lot to do with him not getting the attention from his old "friends" that he wanted once he retired. The SI article about him from a while ago made it sound like he's doing this as much out of bitterness and spite as it is about getting his head out of the noose.
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May 27, 2015 17:03
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Suqit posted:ADvertisers will be thrilled now that they don't have to pay bribes to get deals with FIFA.
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May 27, 2015 17:03
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Aleksei Vasiliev posted:the director of the fbi is 6'8"
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I am getting a contact high from watching y'all's joy.
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May 27, 2015 17:03
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the director of the fbi is 6'8" and 6'6" of that is his head
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May 27, 2015 17:04
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Yeah if you think they're going to be able to use those Rico statutes, formulated primarily to get Mafia bosses convicted, against sepp Blatter, im not sure what to tell you. You're not talking about an American resident, much less one that stands on street corners telling his employees to murder folk. sepp blatter makes a perfect RICO target: he fits the definitions of the law and is an indirect reason for millions in tax evasion while being someone who won't whack anyone for flipping on him. It's basically US Justice System Christmas Question is whether they will be able to find enough crumbs to prove a pattern of corrupt activity fitting RICO, and whether at that point Blatter will be possible to extradite
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May 27, 2015 17:05
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I am getting a contact high from watching y'all's joy.
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May 27, 2015 17:05
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Torrannor posted:Every single poster in this subforum wants Blatter gone from FIFA, nobody here is mad about the DOJ investigating Football's governing body, just the opposite. Nice meltdown you little gutter rat, seems it really is a cesspool of opinions in here. *Sniffs* I'd stay, but the insular smell of lovely humor is in the air
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May 27, 2015 17:06
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blatter : i wish that none of my cronies are able to compete with me for FIFA Presidency... *finger on monkeys paw shrivels up*
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May 27, 2015 17:08
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*disclaimer i don't know anything about the law* isn't the problem with rico that fifa isn't based in the united states and blatters minions have their own federations et al that they were taking bribes on behalf of? so if the paper trail only goes as far as the federation heads, they could have been bribing people for blatter for their own self-interest, while blatter had no idea. Seems like a flimsy case. if they want to take down blatter they need get a bunch of testimony and tangible evidence from the parties involved that blatter requested that they take bribes on behalf of FIFA. Based on the kleptocracy anecdote it seems like Blatter pretty much insulated himself from this exact sort of situation by installing a corrupt chain of command that benefitted him, rather than making corrupt commands.
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May 27, 2015 17:09
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Is Blazer the only one who's really supping the ricola? Warner's kids rolling on him would restore my faith in nepotism.
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May 27, 2015 17:09
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straight up brolic posted:*disclaimer i don't know anything about the law* The USA can and will gently caress, kill and imprison anyone on planet earth as long as that person doesn't own a nuclear warhead
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May 27, 2015 17:11
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straight up brolic posted:so if the paper trail only goes as far as the federation heads, they could have been bribing people for blatter for their own self-interest, while blatter had no idea. Seems like a flimsy case.
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May 27, 2015 17:13
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straight up brolic posted:*disclaimer i don't know anything about the law* *same disclaimer* they have charges against people from multiple federations, though. Should make it easier to make a case against the federation they all are members of, aka FIFA And he doesn't need to have made the corrupt commands. Creating a situation where he profitted from others' corruption is plenty enough for RICO.
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May 27, 2015 17:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhAkwAIaDh8
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May 27, 2015 17:15
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the us will gently caress the fifa faggots up and I'll 69 with the dnd posters during half time
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May 27, 2015 17:17
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Aleksei Vasiliev posted:Pretty sure the DoJ disagrees wrt how solid their evidence is and I trust their judgment here
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May 27, 2015 17:17
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My biggest contention with all this is if this is the world cup of fraud, why aren't FIFA winning.
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May 27, 2015 17:17
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straight up brolic posted:*disclaimer i don't know anything about the law* The sticking point for a lot of people is understanding the difference between going after Sepp directly, and what RICO allows for. In this case, all they have to prove is that there was an 'enterprise', in this case FIFA, and that there was an ongoing pattern of racketeering/fraud in that enterprise. Then, as the head of that 'enterprise', Sepp is indictable under RICO statutes. RICO, as has been said a lot here, is pretty much specifically for taking down the heads of criminal enterprises like the mob, where the man in charge makes sure to not directly link himself and insulate himself from what's going on. The individual federations are members of FIFA, that's all they really need for FIFA to be implicated as a whole. We Got Us A Bread fucked around with this message at 17:19 on May 27, 2015 |
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straight up brolic posted:they did a probe on blatter and didn't indict him so their evidence is not solid enough yet tho?! They just rolled up a bunch of dudes they can try and flip on him.
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May 27, 2015 17:18
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lol i honestly though Warner would never get charged, so pumped, gently caress off you piece of poo poo, burn trinidad to the ground
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May 27, 2015 17:20
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blatter has no chance rico will gently caress him up
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May 27, 2015 17:22
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what judges or circuits would see these cases?
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May 27, 2015 17:23
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blatter will go to jail, platini will take over, football will be even more insane
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May 27, 2015 17:23
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davecrazy posted:They just rolled up a bunch of dudes they can try and flip on him. oh so you gonna switch it on em?
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May 27, 2015 17:23
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part of blatter's plea bargain will be moving the wc from qatar to america
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May 27, 2015 17:24
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Abel Wingnut posted:what judges or circuits would see these cases? US federal courts, I would have thought?
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May 27, 2015 17:24
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hmm i hate snitching but i also hate FIFA, difficult questions for sure
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May 27, 2015 17:24
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Martinpale posted:The individual federations are members of FIFA, that's all they really need for FIFA to be implicated as a whole.
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straight up brolic posted:so (as i said i know nothing about the law) if you had a company like walmart that owned 10 smaller stores that were part of the walmart family, and two of them lets call them funco and shitland and they were bribing and embezzling and propping up walmart--under no direct order or knowledge from walmart, could the head of walmart be taken down on that evidence alone, despite the fact that they had no evidence regarding the 8 other small stores? yes definitely this
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