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BangersInMyKnickers posted:here's my WTF Michaelsoft thing for the day. I'm copying an 8TB file off a 2012R2 server across the network on smb2, and the network link is 100mbit so its taking a while. at the start of the transfer, the speed spikes impossibly fast to the 90-100MB/s range and then after a few minutes settles down to the 12MB/s that I expect. If I pause and resume the transfer I see the same "speed" burst. huh, so that's what's going on. it's always nice to know the reasons behind things that piss me off.
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that's not buffer bloat, that's just Explorer measuring how fast WriteFile is returning and interpreting that as bytes per second written to the destination instead of bytes per second dirtied in the system cache (or possibly bytes per second queued to the NIC) which is dumb UI, but the alternative is doing synchronous writes, which will give you an accurate measurement but kill performance for no good reason pseudorandom name fucked around with this message at 19:19 on May 30, 2015 |
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May 30, 2015 19:17
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i can't update my windows 10 VM. it just freezes at 0% downloaded.
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pseudorandom name posted:that's not buffer bloat, that's just Explorer measuring how fast WriteFile is returning and interpreting that as bytes per second written to the destination instead of bytes per second dirtied in the system cache (or possibly bytes per second queued to the NIC) buffering using all free system memory is pointless and ultimately counter-productive if it takes an hour to pause the loving transfer. the size of the buffer should be scaling up as the transfer speed on the outbound network connection approaches the speed that the disk is populating cache with. its stupid to have a multi-gig buffer when your local disk is 10x faster than the network link
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May 30, 2015 19:23
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Thanks Ants posted:lmao 8tb over smb
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May 30, 2015 19:34
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there are plenty of things to make fun of ms for but smb isn't one of them
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May 30, 2015 19:45
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it's not a thing you do large file transfers with imo
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May 30, 2015 19:47
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anthonypants posted:it's not a thing you do large file transfers with imo smb2/3 handle it just fine, smb1 could as well but you probably wouldn't want to do it over a route hop
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pseudorandom name posted:that's not buffer bloat, that's just Explorer measuring how fast WriteFile is returning and interpreting that as bytes per second written to the destination instead of bytes per second dirtied in the system cache (or possibly bytes per second queued to the NIC) but that isn't a problem with usb sticks and has never been. unlike linux, where the progressbar for copying a relatively large file went to 100% almost immediately and then it took 5 minutes for the copy dialog to actually close. so why do network drives work differently in windows?
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May 30, 2015 20:01
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npiG7EBzHOU p. cool that they got mr plinkett to explain this issue
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May 30, 2015 20:04
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im Microsoft Edging here
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i think you meant lmao 8tb using the gui just use robocopy
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May 30, 2015 20:19
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Wheany posted:but that isn't a problem with usb sticks and has never been. unlike linux, where the progressbar for copying a relatively large file went to 100% almost immediately and then it took 5 minutes for the copy dialog to actually close. because Windows doesn't provide much in the way of an abstraction layer for filesystem drivers and each individual driver does basically whatever it wants
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May 30, 2015 20:40
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Luigi Thirty posted:i can't update my windows 10 VM. it just freezes at 0% downloaded. works for me installed via boot camp on god's computer, a retina macbook pro
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May 30, 2015 21:10
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also lol, who needs alignment
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May 30, 2015 21:12
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May 30, 2015 21:14
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pram posted:windows 10 Free to upgrade for those with legit keys. Though they'll probably do something like $10 to go legit to get people to stop using pirated Windows 7.
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May 30, 2015 22:03
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lol i still cant get over how bad the metro ui is resizing the window doesn't expand the text area so the name of the update is always cut off nevermind all of that whitespace. drat i wish i could think of a use for it
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May 30, 2015 22:17
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also i am still getting used to using a 4k monitor and don't really know how to use it with windows 10 (in vmware) but everything is blurry as gently caress even at native res. i resized that screenshot to 50% just so it wouldn't be megahuge for plebs without a high-dpi monitor but that's pretty representative of the blurriness
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May 30, 2015 22:20
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you probably need to tell vmware to stop scaling everything, and then tell windows 10 to go 200%
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May 30, 2015 23:27
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carry on then posted:also lol, who needs alignment
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May 30, 2015 23:47
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Phoenixan posted:Try that again See details ••••• •••• •• •
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May 30, 2015 23:52
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Phoenixan posted:Try that again See details i've worked on lovely enterprise apps with literal tens of users where we put 100x more thought into the ui than that garbage
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May 30, 2015 23:54
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also is that gray box to the top right of the table censoring something, or is that just there? i actually can't tell with microsoft anymore
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May 31, 2015 00:00
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so all the windows updates finished and it rebooted my vm into a black screen. if i reset it i get the normal windows boot logo and then it just boots into blackness, everything i've tried just results in a black screen gj ms this will definitely be ready to ship in 6 weeks
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May 31, 2015 00:12
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actually on that thought everyone at ms who isn't a middle manager or above is probably freaking the gently caress out right now and will be for the next 2 months lol
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May 31, 2015 00:14
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everybody at microsoft is always freaking the gently caress out, that's part of their culture
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May 31, 2015 00:15
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Beeftweeter posted:lol i still cant get over how bad the metro ui is
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May 31, 2015 00:16
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duTrieux. posted:everybody at microsoft is always freaking the gently caress out, that's part of their culture stack ranking is a great way to institutionalize narcissistic cover your rear end culture
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Beeftweeter posted:so all the windows updates finished and it rebooted my vm into a black screen. if i reset it i get the normal windows boot logo and then it just boots into blackness, everything i've tried just results in a black screen that's just their new minimalistic UI
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May 31, 2015 01:48
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assing rear end? rear end work?
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May 31, 2015 01:53
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does it automatically censor "gently caress" but not "gently caress"? lol
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May 31, 2015 01:53
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Beeftweeter posted:does it automatically censor "gently caress" but not "gently caress"? lol that's weird sql server is case insensitive by default i wonder what their database is lol
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May 31, 2015 01:57
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App Try that again See details
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May 31, 2015 02:14
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I'm the guy that is very picky/particular about my OS that is using a beta version.
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May 31, 2015 07:48
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Beeftweeter posted:so all the windows updates finished and it rebooted my vm into a black screen. if i reset it i get the normal windows boot logo and then it just boots into blackness, everything i've tried just results in a black screen i've had this happen before, it's showing the login menu on a different screen
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Stymie posted:i've had this happen before, it's showing the login menu on a different screen Sounds like the operating system is a piece of poo poo
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eric posted:Free to upgrade for those with legit keys. Though they'll probably do something like $10 to go legit to get people to stop using pirated Windows 7. 
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