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Zephyrine posted:How bad is the latency when an EU player is on the US server? Figure ~80-120ms for EU to US East. So playable, just not ideal.
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Sorry this took so long, but I had to learn how to use Python to get things working properly: Here's a link to my modpack for 9.8!Here are the fonts it uses. It contains: - XVM with my own brand of lines on the minimap - White = Maximum spotting/draw distance and traverse indicators - Red = Artillery and low tier autoloader range - Green = View range and camera direction - 2 seconds protection from shooting at corpses - J1mb0's crosshair mod - Server-side crosshair - 500m zoom out, 16x zoom in - Scope shadow removed - Locastan's damage panel, session stats, and team HP - MeltyMap's damage indicator. - 2 row tank carousel - My Metal Gear Solid sixth sense mod (disappears after 9.5 seconds) - HP bars - Battle assistant - Received damage announcer - Lock-on autoaim - 15m shoot through bushes safely circle (hold Numpad 0) - Autoequip binocs/toolbox/camo net -  A PENETRATION CALCULATOR THAT USES ARMOUR ANGLE  It probably also has some other stuff I've forgotten about, but nothing that can get you banned. Let me know if there are any issues.
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This is loving amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZlxGutFLtc RandomPauI posted:I'm making another try hard effort at tanks. For starters I've been paying more attention to my surroundings, asking for advice, and watching the tank guide youtubes by Quickbaby and Mighty Jingles. Recently I decided to platoon more. It's good that you're actively trying to improve, that's the first step anyone needs to take to actually improve. Part of improving is indeed the surviving, dealing damage, and getting kills, but there are still other factors at play, including but not limited to the randomness present in this game as well as the shitters (think 5x weekends.) For example, I might be decent, and recently I was winning >70% platooned and >60% solo, but then last weekend I couldn't manage 50% platooned. We did very well in the team battles but just got poo poo on in the randoms. Sometimes it's just like that, and you have to persevere. The tanks you play can have something to do with your performance as well; low tiers can be tricky because there are many unpredictable brand-new players, and high tiers can also be tough because a lot of terrible players with terrible habits have failed their way to the top. Consequently, playing tier 8 & 9 can be frustrating. There are days when I cannot get a loving win at certain tiers but not others, so it helps to have several tanks to play so you can avoid the temporarily cursed ones. Also, certain tiers like 6 and 8 are nice because you can play those in skirmishes/team battles, and it's usually easier to grind that way. As far as just getting better (rather than grinding) is concerned, you can probably accomplish this by playing tier 10 exclusively, and focusing on those tanks; your winrate may suffer but you'll be playing in the most controlled conditions possible (where the tiering is least variable, at least within random battles) where you're always top tier so you have the maximum control over your own performance. Sort of a trial by fire, but you should improve because you're getting familiar with the same tank(s) (versus grinding up a line) and how they play on every map. Other than that, your graphs are all looking good: http://new.noobmeter.com/player/na/RandomPauI/1000181419/ They all have a positive slope, which means you're a real, improving player versus a reroll, at least according to Hardest.  Blindeye posted:For my T-34 I am using the higher pen, higher damage gun with slower reload/aim and less accuracy since this tank seems to do better at modest ranges using hard cover (as opposed to my M4 where I try to engage on the run or at extreme ranges). I did reliably okay with the 57 but fewer breakout 1000+ damage games like the bigger gun (I think it is a 76?). I take it I should just go back to that and see what works. It certainly is worth mentioning my T-34 crew is in the low 90s still. This has already been addressed to an extent by others but I'll throw in my input. You're using the 76 mm S-54 on the T-34, but the 57 mm ZiS-4 is by far the better gun. The former has slightly better AP pen and more alpha, but that's it; the latter has better handling, DPM, and APCR pen, all by a long ways. Compare the accuracy & aim time between the guns, and there's no contest between the two. The 76 has a little higher alpha at the cost of 20% DPM, which is huge (it's about 1500 vs. 1200.) The 57's slightly lower AP pen is still workable, and the APCR is a massive improvement (almost 70% increase in penetration.) It does indeed suck to have such a peashooter, but even the damage is workable at tier 5; it especially helps that it's accurate enough to hit weakspots. Often in cases where a tank has two comparable guns of different caliber, a consideration is the actual caliber itself due to overpenetration opportunities, but in this case the 57 is just so much better in almost every respect that the smaller shell size doesn't matter. You're still going to be able to overpenetrate some lower-tier stuff, and the 76's handling is poor enough to make hitting thin roof or deck armor unlikely. One of the tier subsequent tier 6s is the A-43, which has the same two top gun choices, but the S-54 is buffed to be more competitive on this tank (RoF, aim time, and soft stats.) I personally believe it's the better choice despite 10% less DPM, just because it handles so much better on this tank (versus on the T-34, although the ZiS-4 also handles well here) and is less of a peashooter. I've had to use the 57 mm on a lot of different tanks, so having a valid alternative on this one was very welcome. Desuwa disagrees with me on this, but we both did about equally well in this tank so I'd say it comes down to personal preference. As far as those heavy tanks are concerned, they are basically just upgraded versions of the tier 5s, but thankfully with better guns. The KV-85 is literally just an improved KV-1S, so it has speed but limited armor. It gets a great 100 mm gun (do NOT use the 122, it's heavily nerfed and almost useless!) but you have to deal with only 3 mm of gun depression, which is difficult for new players (it feels like you have no gun depression.) The T-150 is an up-armored KV-1, and plays similarly, but gets a 107 mm gun that's more in line with the 122s that are common on the rest of the Soviet heavies. It's manageable, but has poor accuracy and aim time, so beware of this. Despite all of those caveats, I'd recommend playing the T-150 first as the sluggishness and gun handling will still be easier to deal with than the KV-85's lack of gun depression. BadLlama posted:To be a good player it is also imperative to express your sexuality at the beginning of every game. It's also a requirement of being in PANSY!  Fronkey posted:For serious though, I'm not good enough to have a real opinion or taste in tanks. The Matilda (as long as we're not talking about the Soviet LL version, the premium Matilda 4) is awesome despite being so slow. The gun is accurate and I don't think I've ever fired APCR out of it, and the armor will bounce many of the tanks it sees. It can get poo poo on by tier 6s and some 5s, but it does the same thing to lower tiers so it's all fair I guess. It's basically a tier 4 heavy. The T-26 is indeed OK, but the BT-2 (and BT-7) is great. Agrajag posted:Would you be able to explain this powerline thing? Is it just a simple signal extender? Agrajag posted:Is the connection any good? Currently I'm playing on wifi and this powerline things sounds pretty interesting. It runs a signal along your house's electrical system, and can work very well depending on how your system is wired. Best option is to buy a set from someplace that'll let you return it if it doesn't work for you, but it's definitely worth a shot.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Figure ~80-120ms for EU to US East. So playable, just not ideal.
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May 31, 2015 08:10
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I just had a match where some guy with 38k games tried to brawl his Bulldog with my Type 59 and he bounced just about everything while I killed him. Afterwards I said "ok" in allchat. This made him go absolutely bonkersshitnuts. To which I replied "ok" again. Rinse, repeat. Although, he did call me a noob. And compared to his colossal 38k games, yeah, I am relatively new. Not gonna debate that!
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Figure ~80-120ms for EU to US East. So playable, just not ideal. I used to have around 80-100 to the old US server, then 100-110 to US East when the split happened; now I'm lucky to get 140 to US East and 180 to US West.
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Zephyrine posted:How bad is the latency when an EU player is on the US server? what, running screaming from 2pac already? have you even experienced the soundboards yet? TheFluff fucked around with this message at 10:54 on May 31, 2015 |
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May 31, 2015 10:50
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srb posted:I used to have around 80-100 to the old US server, then 100-110 to US East when the split happened; now I'm lucky to get 140 to US East and 180 to US West. If you want to know more definitively how solid/fast your connections to *all* the servers might be, run a traceroute on these addresses: http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Servers
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TheFluff posted:what, running screaming from 2pac already? have you even experienced the soundboards yet? Scotland Forever. ALLAHU ACKBAR. leetcake noises. Truely 2PAC ts is the pinnacle of human communication.
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TheFluff posted:what, running screaming from 2pac already? have you even experienced the soundboards yet? Of course not. I was just curious. I didn't even know EU players could play on the US server. But even if it was possible then I doubt that the latency would make it very enjoyable. And 2PAC TS is peculiar to say the least.
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Zephyrine posted:And 2PAC TS is peculiar to say the least. more like full of obnoxious shitlords (much like myself) Contrary to popular belief though it's perfectly possible to have sane platoon games going on the 2PAC TS, you just have to be online earlier in the evening, before Chumbly shows up and there's suddenly three different platoons in the same channel, with everyone yelling about pubbies, chemtrails, animes etc etc. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 11:38 on May 31, 2015 |
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If I get under 150ms from Europe to US East, it's a good day. I float on 180-230 with latency spiking up to 400 semi-regularly. If it weren't for all the tanks I've unlocked and bought, I'd seriously consider just switching to EU. I may do that, anyway, actually.
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SoUncool posted:If I get under 150ms from Europe to US East, it's a good day. I float on 180-230 with latency spiking up to 400 semi-regularly. Oh you can't bring your tanks across the border? Never mind then. Come join us in the developed world. I'll gift you 100 gold to spend on ammo to murderzone low level pubbies with.
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Zephyrine posted:Of course not. I was just curious. I didn't even know EU players could play on the US server. But even if it was possible then I doubt that the latency would make it very enjoyable. I played on US servers for years, 120 ping normally but this is pretty much unnoticeable, don't let anyone try and tell you different, people bitching about 100+ ping being the cause of them being bad have other issues. I only switched to EU as you find very few US players during your main play times, it becomes busier around 1am normally.
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May 31, 2015 12:12
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I play just fine on US East with a 300 ping, anyone bitching about a lower ping than that is full of it
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May 31, 2015 12:29
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Atomizer posted:It's also a requirement of being in PANSY! Pansy recruitment spam for WoWS.. until you graduate from being a Semen Apprentice you must start every match with the terrible joke in all chat "What is long, black and full of semen?"
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  E: and right after that he said "felt like a coffee"
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more WoT connection questions, since that's a topic: I am moving to a rural-ish area where the best I can expect for a connection is 2Mbps. Is there sufficient server-side push in this game (i.e. bandwidth requirement) that this will be implausible to play? Because that'd be a bummer.
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SoUncool posted:more WoT connection questions, since that's a topic: I am moving to a rural-ish area where the best I can expect for a connection is 2Mbps. Is there sufficient server-side push in this game (i.e. bandwidth requirement) that this will be implausible to play? Because that'd be a bummer. 2Mbps is fine for playing. Patch days are going to suck though.
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SoUncool posted:more WoT connection questions, since that's a topic: I am moving to a rural-ish area where the best I can expect for a connection is 2Mbps. Is there sufficient server-side push in this game (i.e. bandwidth requirement) that this will be implausible to play? Because that'd be a bummer. I just moved from having 1.5mbit for 5 years and played tanks perfectly fine. However patch days sucked dick since it would take literal hours to update. I have since moved to 25mbit and 
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Haquer posted:
If anything, you should have tk'd the scout for not scouting.
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Missing Name posted:If anything, you should have tk'd the scout for not scouting. He really wanted that coffee though  E: Speaking of scouts, I abhor the loving M5 Stuart. I'm so close to just free xping my way to the chaffee
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I have these premium tanks that I just got for the money and xp. I cycle through them daily. I just drive head long into the enemy guns and then try to take as many of them with me as possible before I die and switch to the next tank.  And every now and then things like this happens. And I swear that more often than not. I contribute more just doing this than a majority of the people who play duck and over behind rocks while taking pot shots at the enemy who are doing the same.
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Haquer posted:I just moved from having 1.5mbit for 5 years and played tanks perfectly fine. Cool. Are there any anticipated issues with having both an NA and an EU client installed? If so, I'll just uninstall, but it'd be nice to have the option. Also - mods. Will NA mods work on EU servers? If not, where do Eurogoons get yours? (mostly just want map mod and sight mod, turnstile would be nice too)
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Why not just get a region changer? Afaik the client is identical across the board (except China) and all your mods work fine regardless of region.
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Because I didn't know such a thing existed? And now I do! Yay!
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Atomizer posted:You're using the 76 mm S-54 on the T-34, but the 57 mm ZiS-4 is by far the better gun. The former has slightly better AP pen and more alpha, but that's it; the latter has better handling, DPM, and APCR pen, all by a long ways. Compare the accuracy & aim time between the guns, and there's no contest between the two. The 76 has a little higher alpha at the cost of 20% DPM, which is huge (it's about 1500 vs. 1200.) The 57's slightly lower AP pen is still workable, and the APCR is a massive improvement (almost 70% increase in penetration.) It does indeed suck to have such a peashooter, but even the damage is workable at tier 5; it especially helps that it's accurate enough to hit weakspots. Often in cases where a tank has two comparable guns of different caliber, a consideration is the actual caliber itself due to overpenetration opportunities, but in this case the 57 is just so much better in almost every respect that the smaller shell size doesn't matter. You're still going to be able to overpenetrate some lower-tier stuff, and the 76's handling is poor enough to make hitting thin roof or deck armor unlikely. This is why I always enjoy running into pubs with the 76. Also, I'm pretty sure you're massively understating the DPM advantage that the 57mm has. Admittedly mine has vents and a rammer, but I poo poo out one 85 damage shell every 1.94 seconds. I have like 2600 DPM, which is just obscene for tier 5. The top turret brings the base RoF up to ~26. The A-43/44 actually get competitive reloads on the 76mm, so it becomes an option then, but the 57 is a goddamn beast at tier 5 on the T-34.
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Atomizer posted:You're using the 76 mm S-54 on the T-34, but the 57 mm ZiS-4 is by far the better gun. The former has slightly better AP pen and more alpha, but that's it; the latter has better handling, DPM, and APCR pen, all by a long ways. Compare the accuracy & aim time between the guns, and there's no contest between the two. The 76 has a little higher alpha at the cost of 20% DPM, which is huge (it's about 1500 vs. 1200.) The 57's slightly lower AP pen is still workable, and the APCR is a massive improvement (almost 70% increase in penetration.) It does indeed suck to have such a peashooter, but even the damage is workable at tier 5; it especially helps that it's accurate enough to hit weakspots. Often in cases where a tank has two comparable guns of different caliber, a consideration is the actual caliber itself due to overpenetration opportunities, but in this case the 57 is just so much better in almost every respect that the smaller shell size doesn't matter. You're still going to be able to overpenetrate some lower-tier stuff, and the 76's handling is poor enough to make hitting thin roof or deck armor unlikely. I've already switched back to the 57, no worries. The DPS argument wasn't convincing to me early on when I used the T-34 because I didn't find myself out of cover for very long. If I was thinking in terms of single shot, run, reposition, take a shot, the DPM seemed to matter less. Also I had a bad habit of never, ever using APCR unless it was absolutely necessary. Now, not so much (oh but how my credits hurt from it!). My damage per game is climbing still with the 57, despite a horrific day yesterday of mostly tier 7 games I averaged about 470 damage per game so I must be doing something right. Edit: Oh hey! Mark of Excellence on my T-34! As for the 85 vs the 150, I was thinking in terms of which heavy line to go up, but this information is definitely useful to know. I already am starting to get used to the awful gun depression on my 1S so the 85 won't be that much of a shock to me, I suppose. I did unlock the T-34-85 yesterday and drat, it has the makings of a nice tank. Today I'm hoping to get the top tier gun for it because the current gun is godawful in accuracy and aim time. But once I get the big gun... .
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May 31, 2015 16:12
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It's not 1500 vs 1200 DPM for the 57 vs the 76, it's 2200 vs 1200 DPM.
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Haquer posted:He really wanted that coffee though Fair enough, coffee > WoT.
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RandomPauI posted:I'm making another try hard effort at tanks. For starters I've been paying more attention to my surroundings, asking for advice, and watching the tank guide youtubes by Quickbaby and Mighty Jingles. Recently I decided to platoon more.
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Mission MT-5 which I had lost in the patch seems to be broken. I destroyed a light tank from full health in my T-34 but alas, no mission completion. Am I missing something?
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Apparently I am not good with an IS-7.
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Logged in for the first time since 9.8. All I lost was LT-10, no big deal. Then I played one game. http://wotreplays.com/site/1922056#ensk-byezimyannij-tiger_ii   Would any of you have played this differently than I did? Granted, this was a tier 8 battle, but am I really becoming a not-shitler? Missing Name fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 31, 2015 |
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May 31, 2015 19:10
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I like to think of myself as a pretty tolerant guy, but Dekatris: Not Even Once.
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The Southern Dandy posted:I like to think of myself as a pretty tolerant guy, but Dekatris: Not Even Once. I dunno he sounds pretty drat sexy. Plus I've heard angry sex is great - and you'd get a lot of angry sex with Dekatris. e: oh wait you meant platooning with him. Oops.
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Replying to randoms who are raging in chat with "relax" serves the dual purpose of both 1) helping me relax and 2) making him rage harded, and I would highly recommend it.
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ELI PORTER posted:Replying to randoms who are raging in chat with "relax" serves the dual purpose of both 1) helping me relax and 2) making him rage harded, and I would highly recommend it. This post is excellent. I'll start doing this too, if I ever play again that is 
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Hellsau posted:I dunno he sounds pretty drat sexy. Plus I've heard angry sex is great - and you'd get a lot of angry sex with Dekatris. Who doesn't like a good hate gently caress once in awhile? But yeah, tooning.
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