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quote:that's because i've never played pret-a-porter or lords of xidit and don't give a gently caress in hell about them but tragedy looper's good and innovative and seeing people write it off because it gives them flashbacks to the uguu wars is loving stupid Well, that was part of his point - by all the accounts I've seen, Pret-a-Porter was a good innovative game that didn't get much exposure because people were turned off by the theme. I'm one of the people who didn't give it a second look because of the theme. I did get the group to play Ladies and Gentlemen, which I guess has some stuff in common, but L&G is intended to be goofy and that really shifts the dynamic. I don't think I could sell a straight-up fashion game to any group I play with, even if it was quite good. As a game consumer, again, you don't personally have to care about the theme in order for theme to be a problem. I bought and played Tragedy Looper (and Krosmaster, and other pretty nerdy games) - but I got less utility out of them because their themes turned potential players off. Even in my fairly nerdy core group there were people who wouldn't play Tragedy Looper (and probably wouldn't play Argent either). Last time I mentioned this it was suggested (I think unironically) that I should get new friends.
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Zark the Damned posted:It could be worse... I think that's Great Hall. what is this and why, anyway? I thought Tanto Cuore had the market cornered on bizarre Japanese versions of Dominion.
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Jun 4, 2015 16:55
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:I think that's Great Hall. There are a bunch of licensed anime clones of Dominion oddly enough. There's one with Etrian Odyssey characters, another one with Nippon Ichi characters, another with Touhou characters, etc. This particular one is Nitroplus.
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I'm looking for a good 2 player card game that is not Jaipur, Star Realms, Dominion, Splendor, Imperial Settlers, Race for the Galaxy, or San Juan. I've played and enjoyed the above except for Imperial Settlers.
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Jun 4, 2015 17:07
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Anime is simply another example of more white people in games. Just sayin'
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Jun 4, 2015 17:08
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Broken Loose posted:YES. Here's a slightly but really not at all controversial claim: Warhammer 40,000 has no theme. It's just every single fiction trope thrown into a blender. It's Star Trek, Star Wars, the Silmarillion, Alien, Aliens, Terminator, Predator, Mad Max, Starship Troopers, King Arthur, goddamn literally Rambo, some 40-year-old British dude's idea of "Japanime" robots, Dungeon & Dragons, Dracula, Zombies, Norse legends, Jesus Christ and a great deal of the rest of the Bible, Lensman, Wolverine, Wolfman, Monty loving Python, zombies, the Matrix, and drat near every single other fiction property combined in a single setting with no regard for executing it well or actually advancing the storyline other than "everything exists and it sucks." You sound stressed. How about a relaxing game of Relic?
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Jun 4, 2015 17:15
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First Time Caller posted:I'm looking for a good 2 player card game that is not Jaipur, Star Realms, Dominion, Splendor, Imperial Settlers, Race for the Galaxy, or San Juan. I've played and enjoyed the above except for Imperial Settlers. Twilight Struggle. It has cards and it's two player and it has a minimum of anime.
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First Time Caller posted:I'm looking for a good 2 player card game that is not Jaipur, Star Realms, Dominion, Splendor, Imperial Settlers, Race for the Galaxy, or San Juan. I've played and enjoyed the above except for Imperial Settlers. Tash Kalar maybe, even though it's not purely cards, the cards are the main thing you do.
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Trasson posted:Twilight Struggle. It has cards and it's two player and it has a minimum of anime. 
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Zark the Damned posted:It could be worse... Its called Mascot Girl, so they renamed whatever the original was. (+1 draw, +1 action, +1 VP). Action / Province
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Jun 4, 2015 17:21
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quote:Its called Mascot Girl, so they renamed whatever the original was. (+1 draw, +1 action, +1 VP). Action / Province In the true nerd edition that card is called "Huge Tracts of Land".
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Jun 4, 2015 17:27
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Single Tight Female posted:I don't think this has been posted before so UK goons: Amazon.co.uk is running a "Spend £20 and get £5 off" on board games sale through the rest of the month. (link)
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First Time Caller posted:I'm looking for a good 2 player card game that is not Jaipur, Star Realms, Dominion, Splendor, Imperial Settlers, Race for the Galaxy, or San Juan. I've played and enjoyed the above except for Imperial Settlers. Morels is excellent for a quiet game.
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jmzero posted:In the true nerd edition that card is called "Huge Tracts of Land". Haha. Mascot Girl did nothing wrong
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First Time Caller posted:I'm looking for a good 2 player card game that is not Jaipur, Star Realms, Dominion, Splendor, Imperial Settlers, Race for the Galaxy, or San Juan. I've played and enjoyed the above except for Imperial Settlers. Dead Man's Draw is pretty fun with 2. So is Hanabi.
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MonkeyMaker posted:Morels is excellent for a quiet game. Morels (or Fungi) is good, but it's quite a hassle to move the cards around all the time, we usually go for Jaipur instead.
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jmzero posted:Well, that was part of his point - by all the accounts I've seen, Pret-a-Porter was a good innovative game that didn't get much exposure because people were turned off by the theme. I'm one of the people who didn't give it a second look because of the theme. I did get the group to play Ladies and Gentlemen, which I guess has some stuff in common, but L&G is intended to be goofy and that really shifts the dynamic. I don't think I could sell a straight-up fashion game to any group I play with, even if it was quite good. Oh, I saw Ladies and Gentlemen in the store the other day, and the concept sounds intriguing - how is it? The dynamic between the Ladies and the Gentlemen sounds fun.
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Tevery Best posted:gently caress you, I hate you. Rude as gently caress m8
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signalnoise posted:OK, someone give me quick rundowns of how Elysium, Argent, Shogun, and Evolution are played e: The best for Argent is Gutter Owl's recent post here http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3687728&userid=168573&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post445492419 Evolution is a mainly card-based game where each player develops and grows different species. In the course of the game you'll increase size, population, and add (or remove) biological traits such as "Herd Instinct" which helps defend against predators, "Long Neck" which lets you feed first before others have a chance, and so on - all with the goal of out-competing the other players' species. When the cards are gone the game wraps up. Doing well depends on not just efficiently playing your own stuff but also focusing on things that out-compete your neighbors or do an end-run around their species. As the game progresses what works in the early game tends to gear shift, because food becomes more scarce. Judging when to make a shift and when to double-down on your existing stuff is key to doing well.
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I like anime.
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Bubble-T posted:Forbidden Stars (Warhammer 40K game) rules are up. Looks both less interesting and less elegant (lol) than Chaos in the Old World, probably a pass for me. This sounds great
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quote:Oh, I saw Ladies and Gentlemen in the store the other day, and the concept sounds intriguing - how is it? The dynamic between the Ladies and the Gentlemen sounds fun. We laughed a lot while yelling at our husbands and what not, but we only played it a few times. There's not really enough game there to keep it going once you've sort of "had the experience"; both the lady and gentleman games are quite shallow. But if you're OK with a short lived game (or if you could play it twice with each of a few different groups) it could be worthwhile.
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Vlaada Chvatil posted:I like anime. vlaada said it folks. anime is good
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This reminds me of all the Sentinels of the Multiverse art debates in past threads. I think the best compromise for Tragedy Looper's art would be using cast photos from Everybody Loves Raymond. I don't think anyone would object to Ray time-traveling to stop his wife from murdering his mother.
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First Time Caller posted:I'm looking for a good 2 player card game that is not Jaipur, Star Realms, Dominion, Splendor, Imperial Settlers, Race for the Galaxy, or San Juan. I've played and enjoyed the above except for Imperial Settlers. Definitely Hanabi
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Lorini posted:Anime is simply another example of more white people in games. Just sayin' Yeah this
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Just wait for that Angola COIN for all your minority representation needs
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Mega64 posted:I think the best compromise for Tragedy Looper's art would be using cast photos from Everybody Loves Raymond. I don't think anyone would object to Ray time-traveling to stop his wife from murdering his mother. From what I remember of that show, I think basically everyone would object, actually.
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Fungah! posted:vlaada said it folks. anime is good We knew that, that's why Vlaada designed acclaimed anime game Final Attack.
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Tekopo posted:*brings out copy of anime tragedy looper* I'm not offended by Anime, it is just a genre that tends towards terrible stuff; so I have desperately low expectations as to the quality of anything Anime, games included. Dre2Dee2 posted:Wait, do people have a problem with Argent's art style? That looks like a quality of anime art as embarassing as Tragedy Looper, but I'm only going off pics and videos I've seen though, so maybe it's better than person. I have a problem with it. Not the hyperbolic "Anime ran over my dog" that BL is eluding to. But if Argent looked like Witches Brew I'd be far more interested in it than I am with its current art. You are allowed to dislike the greatest game in the entire world if the art doesn't speak to you. Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jun 4, 2015 |
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You know, I think a large part of the pushback is that there's a tendency to lump literally everything even remotely or tangentially related to anime into the same big tentacle-rape shitpile. And then, just treat it all as irredeemable dogshit, regardless of its merits. So, when you throw something like Looper, which itself isn't ~anime~ as much as it's "clearly japanese-style art" (and lacking in the awful tropes that got anime the bad rap in the first place), you're just adding to that giant negative feedback loop that pigeonholes a bunch of otherwise good products, and that's a tragic loop to be in.
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I'm looking for more 2 player games for my wife and I to play which we can both enjoy. I'm have a pretty broad range of what I can enjoy (we haven't found a game yet that she likes and I dislike), so I'm looking for games that are to her taste. Her favorite games we play head to head: Agricola Castles of Burgundy Splendor In her second tier is some deck-builders: Star Realms Ascension (less so because math) Smash-Up Games she actively dislikes: Tash Kalar Twilight Struggle Her summary of her interests is that she likes shopping and dislikes having tons of complicated things to keep track of. Any suggestions for games she might like that we could play 2 player?
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 (Caylus) Have you tried Dominion or Carcassonne? Foehammer fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jun 4, 2015 |
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gingerberger posted:Any suggestions for games she might like that we could play 2 player? If she likes deck builders than Dominion might be a good choice, that game is all "shopping".
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gingerberger posted:I'm looking for more 2 player games for my wife and I to play which we can both enjoy. I'm have a pretty broad range of what I can enjoy (we haven't found a game yet that she likes and I dislike), so I'm looking for games that are to her taste. Looking at your wife's favorites she likes to build her own engine and not get into conflict. If your wife likes Agricola, you can't go wrong with all creatures big and small with the expansions. Bora bora is meaner than castle's of burgundy but is still not direct conflict oriented. If you live in Europe and can get it cheap Glen More is great. Suburbia or castles of mad king ludwig might also be great choices. On the other side of things for lighter conflict style games like star realms your wife might like quantum but I wouldn't pay the 100 dollars it was going for a few months back on amazon. Puzzle Strike is another light quick conflict oriented deck builder that she might dig if she likes star realms. and for the love of god ignore that bad suggestion of caylus your wife will hate the "gently caress you"ness of 2 player caylus.
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gingerberger posted:I'm looking for more 2 player games for my wife and I to play which we can both enjoy. I'm have a pretty broad range of what I can enjoy (we haven't found a game yet that she likes and I dislike), so I'm looking for games that are to her taste. fit those themes Dominion Jaipur - *my wifes fav, set collection and buying Hanabi Keyflower Other games you'd probably like based on taste Carcassonne Sushi Go Ticket to Ride Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Jun 4, 2015 |
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2-player Carcassonne is a bit vicious, you might have to deliberately play "nice". Dominion, Jaipur, and Hanabi all seem like fine choices.
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Badgers Nadgers posted:Thanks for posting about this. Yeah, there is a load of crap, but the code is definitely not single use. Managed to pick up the Eclipse expansion and Camel Up (for the kids, honest) in two separate orders using the code for both. There's no need to claim you bought Camel Cup for the kids, we've played it down the pub any number of times and my gaming group owns six or seven copies between us. Also it's officially got to be Cup and not Up now, the expansion is called Supercup.
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Toshimo posted:You know, I think a large part of the pushback is that there's a tendency to lump literally everything even remotely or tangentially related to anime into the same big tentacle-rape shitpile. And then, just treat it all as irredeemable dogshit, regardless of its merits. So, when you throw something like Looper, which itself isn't ~anime~ as much as it's "clearly japanese-style art" (and lacking in the awful tropes that got anime the bad rap in the first place), you're just adding to that giant negative feedback loop that pigeonholes a bunch of otherwise good products, and that's a tragic loop to be in. I don't have a problem with anime, I just want to play time cops without explaining to my friends that it has nothing to do with Yu Gi Oh.
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rchandra posted:2-player Carcassonne is a bit vicious, you might have to deliberately play "nice". What? She explicitly likes Agricola, are you going to say Carc is more cutthroat than Tha' Gric? This whole "the womenfolk need you to take it easy or else they'll call you a nerd and go buy shoes at the mall" poo poo is ridiculous.
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