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Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

Kesper North posted:

Is it just me or are more people playing IJN cruisers now? I used to never see them, now they're everywhere. Did they get buffed or something?

IJN cruiser get huge guns (~200mm) when US cruisers hover aorund ~155. They are also decently fast and fun.

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Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

Kesper North posted:

Is it just me or are more people playing IJN cruisers now? I used to never see them, now they're everywhere. Did they get buffed or something?

Well, the progression has definitely improved since they added the Furutaka and swapped the Myoko and Mogami.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy

TehKeen posted:

Through some serious tech voodoo my roommate and I finally managed to get Bootcamp working. Does anyone have any idea if WoWs will run, even on middling to low settings on a 2012 MacBook Pro? If so, I'm buying into this tonight. I, after watching Jingles's latest video, am craving being the annoying CL that escorts BBs and shoots down all the planes forever.

I NEED this game. My only concern is that the Integrated Intel 4000 just won't be able to cut it. :negative: It does run War Thunder Tanks reasonably well on low, so I have a modicum of hope.

I dunno man, WoT does not have a stellar track record with integrated video cards. I can scrub the tech area of the brown sea forums and check. Give me a couple of hours and I will post back.

Arishtat
Jan 2, 2011

El Disco posted:

Well, the progression has definitely improved since they added the Furutaka and swapped the Myoko and Mogami.

This. When the tree went from the tier IV Kuma -> tier 6 Aoba the idea of grinding out 18000 experience on an overweight destroyer with no smoke capability did not appeal to me. As soon as the Furutaka was added I unlocked it I went for that. I did, however, end up blowing some free experience to get out of the Furutaka because it just isn't a comfortable ship. The turret layout is weird, it has nil armor, nonexistent anti-aircraft defenses and isn't very maneuverable to boot. The tier VI Aoba addresses all of these problems except for the armor but that matters less when you can straight up dodge a great deal of incoming fire with it.

I'm really enjoying the Aoba with a good captain and fully kitted out with accessories.

Arishtat fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jun 3, 2015

warhammer651
Jul 21, 2012
Some days, that Benson trying and hilariously failing to ram you is something amusing to laugh at in the chat.

Other days, the Benson is just buying a few more seconds for his torpedos to reload for a point blank salvo.

Remember: Winners don't let DDs close to within 2 km. This PSA brought to you by the Battleship Drivers Of America Association.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Are they supposed to be putting in an arming distance for torps? Right now it seems you can launch point blank for full damage.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
There was an arming distance but now it seems like you can pull up next to another ship and roll the torpedo over the side killing it withing 5 meters.

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

I mean that was possible with torpedos. Noone in their right mind would do it tho. And it sucks gameplay wise. Becuase the best way to deal with destroyers right now is either stay out of range or get as close as possible.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Michaellaneous posted:

I mean that was possible with torpedos. Noone in their right mind would do it tho. And it sucks gameplay wise. Becuase the best way to deal with destroyers right now is either stay out of range or get as close as possible.

Not really, most torpedoes had an arming distance of 360 to 640m controlled by a mechanical mechanism on the torpedo. They just seem to be doing max damage even below 300m.

Burno
Aug 6, 2012

The min range is the start of the aiming cone aka basically non-existent now.

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G
I bought Atlanta, it is just so hilarious with 7 turrets firing 2 shells each every 5 seconds or so. Pretty much 'If I fire constantly at citadel it's bound to explode!'.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Aramoro posted:

Not really, most torpedoes had an arming distance of 360 to 640m controlled by a mechanical mechanism on the torpedo. They just seem to be doing max damage even below 300m.

There is an arming distance, but it is very short. I saw a torpedo travel ~100m to a teammate and it did not explode.

Tenchrono
Jun 2, 2011


Aesis posted:

I bought Atlanta, it is just so hilarious with 7 turrets firing 2 shells each every 5 seconds or so. Pretty much 'If I fire constantly at citadel it's bound to explode!'.

The Atlanta and its sister ship the Cleveland are probably the two best cruisers in the game right now, I've killed and been killed in my New Orleans simply because I couldn't keep up with the constant damage from them.

grrarg
Feb 14, 2011

Don't lose your head over it.
I have been tempted to shell out for an Atlanta several times after seeing people die in them after whiffing several full salvos in a row. With that rate of fire on so many turrets, how can people not learn to aim? Hold the left mouse button down and move the reticle around until every shot hits.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





grrarg posted:

I have been tempted to shell out for an Atlanta several times after seeing people die in them after whiffing several full salvos in a row. With that rate of fire on so many turrets, how can people not learn to aim? Hold the left mouse button down and move the reticle around until every shot hits.

This. It's the only ship in the game where you can quite literally walk your stream of fire onto your target.

Burno
Aug 6, 2012

If someone is considering an Atlanta just free xp the Mogami, it is better in every way

jownzy
Apr 20, 2012

I love Rainbow Moon.

It is the deepest game ever. Nothing compares to its epic story.
I started this game really high on playing the battleships... and then I realized very little of what I do matters in the game. It feels like crits and doing any significant damage is pure luck.

I got up to a New Mexico and a Fuso, and was like wow, impressive firepower, but that's just not what seems to happen in game. Just got the Pensacola, and now I've got a maneuverable ship that seems to consistently do more damage per salvo, it doesn't even have upgrades.

Seems like if you have a team of decent cruisers, you win. In the end the battleships all get flushed.

Sidesaddle Cavalry
Mar 15, 2013

Oh Boy Desert Map

jownzy posted:

I started this game really high on playing the battleships... and then I realized very little of what I do matters in the game. It feels like crits and doing any significant damage is pure luck.

I got up to a New Mexico and a Fuso, and was like wow, impressive firepower, but that's just not what seems to happen in game. Just got the Pensacola, and now I've got a maneuverable ship that seems to consistently do more damage per salvo, it doesn't even have upgrades.

Seems like if you have a team of decent cruisers, you win. In the end the battleships all get flushed.

With the game's compressed time-to-contact and ranges, it feels like I can almost always carry harder in a cruiser than I could with a battleship, unless all opposing team members are practically throwing themselves at me simultaneously.

Pubs complain all the time about planes and torpedoes (and sometimes WG listens?) and never see the rest of their teams dissolving from 6-inch and 8-inch fire the whole time.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Ive got a poo poo gfx card GeForce 210, is this going to play like rear end? Wot runs ok.

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G

grrarg posted:

I have been tempted to shell out for an Atlanta several times after seeing people die in them after whiffing several full salvos in a row. With that rate of fire on so many turrets, how can people not learn to aim? Hold the left mouse button down and move the reticle around until every shot hits.
It's also great for spraying at DD sitting at 8~10 km. At least one shell's bound to hit and critically damage :v:

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



tater_salad posted:

Ive got a poo poo gfx card GeForce 210, is this going to play like rear end? Wot runs ok.

This game is way prettier than WoT, which translates to slower framerates. I guess you might be able to squeak by on the lowest settings but honestly I would recommend springing 100-130 bucks for a Geforce 750. You can get very good frame rates with that card and it doesn't cost 300+ USD.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Aesis posted:

It's also great for spraying at DD sitting at 8~10 km. At least one shell's bound to hit and critically damage :v:

The best part is when you do that to a DD who then doesn't get the hint (because they are about to load up some torps for some sweet run on you) that you have them zero-ed in so the next volley obliterates them.

Although, my best moment against a dd was reading the minimap to see where things were going and adjusting towards an island. Perfect timing because I popped out behind the same time a destroyer did with a 3km range separating us. The poor guy at a full broadside salvo for it.

grrarg
Feb 14, 2011

Don't lose your head over it.
A little patch in the morning to nerf HE and Pyromania a bit and maybe make AP less bouncy.

quote:

Update 0.3.1.3 Notes

Fixed a bug that caused a failure to display any change when upgrading the AA module to 127-mm guns on Fuso
Fixed an issue affecting aiming and non-moving ships
Fixed an issue that resulted in poorly balanced teams when in Standard and Domination game modes
Added an after-battle notification prototype
Fixed an issue that caused features to disappear while turning the camera
Decreased the speed of dive bombers and torpedo bombers under attack
Changes to ship turning radii
Fixed an issue causing ships to become stuck near sector G2
Changed economic settings for ships Myoko, Ishizuchi, and Mogami

Decreased the effectiveness of "Pyroman" skill to +3% instead of +5%
Changed bombs and torpedoes on Japanese aircraft:
Torpedoes tiers IV - VII: Type 91 Mod1A
Torpedoes tiers VII - X: Type 91 Mod2A
Bombs all tiers: Type99 N25 Mod1
Decreased the damage of HE shells by between 11.5% and 15.8%
Decreased the likelihood of AP shell ricochet by adjusting the deflection angle by 5 degrees

Improved overall client performance, mostly addressing freezing issues

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:
I hope the performance tweaks mean it won't take me a minute and a half to load into each match every time (something that started in 3.1).

Sidesaddle Cavalry
Mar 15, 2013

Oh Boy Desert Map
Wargaming please stop nerfing planes(?)

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012
For anybody who loves the Atlanta or the Cleveland, what is your average damage in those things?

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


orange juche posted:

This game is way prettier than WoT, which translates to slower framerates. I guess you might be able to squeak by on the lowest settings but honestly I would recommend springing 100-130 bucks for a Geforce 750. You can get very good frame rates with that card and it doesn't cost 300+ USD.

Thanks for the suggestion that card may work, ive had a problem matching cards tat may possibly be able to game with my low power supply and since mt pc is a dell upgrading thr psu isnt a simple thing

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

tater_salad posted:

Thanks for the suggestion that card may work, ive had a problem matching cards tat may possibly be able to game with my low power supply and since mt pc is a dell upgrading thr psu isnt a simple thing

Actually, Dell stopped using proprietary PSUs about a decade ago. Unless something's changed, or if they're using proprietary mounting holes for the screws, you're okay. But the 750Ti pulls all its power from the PCIe bus, so it's a non-issue.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

For anybody who loves the Atlanta or the Cleveland, what is your average damage in those things?

Average damage in my Cleveland with 89 battles is 32,084 per battle. The overall is 28,561 per battle so the Cleveland is above the curve. I don't play cruisers otherwise and the next closest in number of battles is the Kongo where I have 45k damage.

I'm not as active as I was before this last wipe, the did not keep those stats around else I would have more numbers.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

The 750Ti's entire gimmick is being the most powerful card that doesn't need any power source other than the connection to the motherboard, so if you can't get a new PSU because the motherboard connector is proprietary, it's the best pick.

Burno
Aug 6, 2012

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

For anybody who loves the Atlanta or the Cleveland, what is your average damage in those things?

32k Atlanta
40k Cleveland

but I don't love them :(

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




grrarg posted:

A little patch in the morning to nerf HE and Pyromania a bit and maybe make AP less bouncy.

I set things on fire all the time and I don't even have any captains with the pyro skill, so I don't see how much of a nerf it's really going to be

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G
Pubbies are terrible so I can't win a single loving game (my win rate went down from 80% to 40% once I hit Tier 6), but there are moments of fun.

I just managed to destroy full hp Nagato on my own with Atlanta in 1v5 (I was all alone, 5 enemy closing on me within 15 km with no terrain cover) :smug: It wasn't citadel explosion, I just outright charged at that fucker because I knew I'd die anyway, spammed/dodged as best as I could, shot torp once at spread (his engine or steer stopped), got closer to about 0.5 km and shot another torp from other side for full hit and kill.

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

For anybody who loves the Atlanta or the Cleveland, what is your average damage in those things?
Both easily above 30k if I can get close. Except it's not easy with Atlanta when pubbies all stay so far and still manage to die :iiam:

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013



Sadly my time with the cleveland will be over soon.

Burno
Aug 6, 2012

Michaellaneous posted:



Sadly my time with the cleveland will be over soon.

Its ok, the Pensacola is better

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Slim Jim Pickens posted:

For anybody who loves the Atlanta or the Cleveland, what is your average damage in those things?

Cleveland - 54,103
Pensacola - 50,215
Atlanta - 40,214

Overall - 41,555

They are good boats.

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

Oh, did they nerf HE and Pyromania this morning? I didn't notice :haw:







x1.5 of course, but still nice base xp.

MREBoy
Mar 14, 2005

MREs - They're whats for breakfast, lunch AND dinner !
ok so where are you folks going to pull up these per ship damage stats ? Something in-client or a 3rd party website ?

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G

MREBoy posted:

ok so where are you folks going to pull up these per ship damage stats ? Something in-client or a 3rd party website ?
When your game ends and shows Victory/Defeat/Draw, there are tabs around middle of your screen. Click on those.

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demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
This was an explanation for why our team lost the match..

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