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Deceitful Penguin posted:Even with vassal kings, there's some pretty annoying restrictions on who you can transfer vassals to and if you create a bunch of merchant republics like I do, you don't want to lose access to that sweet, sweet filthy lucre. Apparently just being adjacent ain't enough. Also for some damnable reason the fucken pope refuses to create crusades, even though I specifically got catholicism into top-dog position again on top of Lollardism but eh; whaevs. Merchant republics stay as your vassal if you use viceroy kings.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Please learn how to generate claims through marriage and intrigue. Yeah fabricating claims is a last ditch kinda thing- marrying into a family and murdering the other heirs also works, as does inviting heirs to your land and pressing their claims if you're desperate
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Jun 5, 2015 06:12
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What's with people wanting to go steppe Muslim? You lose your invasion cb, and the tengri boost to cavalry that makes the unique steppe buildings even more awesome.
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Jun 5, 2015 07:00
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It's interesting and difficult. It's a strange sort of fun to play as the duke of gently caress all. It's also neat to play Muslims entirely distant from the Muslim world.
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Jun 5, 2015 07:26
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I'm starting to get my head round other ways of gaining land other than using fabricate claims. I have a vassal with a claim on Glamorgan so I should be able to gain it through him, right? My issue usually is that I can't press a weak claim, I guess I really need to start looking for people with strong claims to marry into my dynasty?
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Jun 5, 2015 07:52
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Walton Simons posted:I'm starting to get my head round other ways of gaining land other than using fabricate claims. Sometimes they'll even let their younger sons marry your daughters matrilineally. 
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Jun 5, 2015 08:22
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One more question, I'm full of them lately. I have a claim on Poland and I should be able to take them. Are there any pitfalls of going halfway across Europe to take some land? I should have enough cash to hire mercenaries if Norge start poo poo.
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Jun 5, 2015 12:32
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Walton Simons posted:One more question, I'm full of them lately. I have a claim on Poland and I should be able to take them. Are there any pitfalls of going halfway across Europe to take some land? I should have enough cash to hire mercenaries if Norge start poo poo. Well there is attrition and your troops starving from not having supplies but other than that I can't come up with anything. Both of those issues are solvable though.
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Jun 5, 2015 12:37
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Walton Simons posted:One more question, I'm full of them lately. I have a claim on Poland and I should be able to take them. Are there any pitfalls of going halfway across Europe to take some land? I should have enough cash to hire mercenaries if Norge start poo poo. You're gonna want to have military organization at 4 or you could probably outnumber them 3-1 and still get your face kicked in. Inland Slavic counties will have supply limits of like 900 men every winter. There's also "ran out of supplies" to deal with if you're talking about walking there. If there's 3 counties between you and Poland, you'll take attrition in the walk, but nothing serious. If there's 15, it might be ill-advised. That's why Odin created boats.
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Jun 5, 2015 12:40
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Walton Simons posted:One more question, I'm full of them lately. I have a claim on Poland and I should be able to take them. Are there any pitfalls of going halfway across Europe to take some land? I should have enough cash to hire mercenaries if Norge start poo poo. Defending land that isn't contiguous might be more trouble than it's worth. Everytime your polish vassals revolt you'll have to march your troops across europe to defend your lands.
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Jun 5, 2015 12:41
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I'm ruling Eire so it's a ways. I'll scope out Poland's terrain and size up our armies and tech before I do anything. It's an inheritable claim and my King is only 26 so no mad rush. Slightly concerned about capital distance and culture penalties, too. It turns out I can take Glamorgan for myself by pressing the claim of one of my vassals so I'll definitely do that first.
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Jun 5, 2015 13:00
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Walton Simons posted:I'm ruling Eire so it's a ways. I'll scope out Poland's terrain and size up our armies and tech before I do anything. It's an inheritable claim and my King is only 26 so no mad rush. Slightly concerned about capital distance and culture penalties, too. I wonder if just relocating the capital and your demesne to Poland may be better, max holdings per province seem to be better, and it's a nice base of operations for holy warring any nearby heathens since you get an easy CB and attrition is not going to be as bad. Also may be easier to create an empire. Main downside may be any tribal holdings, having the HRE assholes next door, and hoping that the Hordes peter out before they get to your borders.
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Jun 5, 2015 13:19
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What determines whether I can prepared invasion someone? It seems really arbitrary. I can get the Asturias guy even though he doesn't have more than ten counties. I can't get pannonia for...reasons??? Does the prepared invasion not work against pagans? Also norse are supposed to be able to take coastal territory but I can only take catholic counties. Stupid. Darth Windu fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Jun 5, 2015 |
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Jun 5, 2015 13:49
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Walton Simons posted:I'm ruling Eire so it's a ways. I'll scope out Poland's terrain and size up our armies and tech before I do anything. It's an inheritable claim and my King is only 26 so no mad rush. Slightly concerned about capital distance and culture penalties, too. It might be fun to conquer it and hand the crown off to a talented relative/2nd son one day. Spread your dynasty far and wide. I wouldn't really bother holding it myself.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:00
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Vichan posted:Which mod(s) would you guys recommend if I want to enrichen the 'vanilla' gameplay experience? I'm mostly looking for expanded pagan mechanics, a much more unstable Byzantine empire and more lethal combat. I use declare friends and rivals, as well as realistic battles mod. That mod makes you very likely to capture or kill the leaders of a defeated army, as well as increasing the chance of death in battle all round. You're actually more likely to escape unscathed if you are craven, making it a good trade off instead of just getting brave every time.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:16
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No, Craven is still terrible. You never ever want a trait that lowers your Martial and gives you a -10 opinion malus to all your vassals.
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Jun 5, 2015 15:54
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Knuc U Kinte posted:It might be fun to conquer it and hand the crown off to a talented relative/2nd son one day. Spread your dynasty far and wide. I wouldn't really bother holding it myself. It's far more fun to keep yourself holding only one kingdom and one duchy, then hand as much as you possibly can off to dyansty members. If you have Tanistry on most of them because you started Celtic, it starts getting pretty funny when you randomly inherit owning like 8 duchies and then the next guy is just a lowly count who happened to be super old.
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Jun 5, 2015 16:02
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Yeah, if you want to keep your guy safe during battle then uh don't send him into battle. Nobody knows anything about the prepared invasion rules? Oh well. Consoled myself a claim on Pannonia and took it over in a fake prepared invasion since the game is being a dick about it.
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Jun 5, 2015 17:06
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Darth Windu posted:Yeah, if you want to keep your guy safe during battle then uh don't send him into battle. The only thing I remember is that your domain size can only be x% of your target. Check out the ck2 wiki page on prepared invasions.
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Jun 5, 2015 18:21
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Volkerball posted:The only thing I remember is that your domain size can only be x% of your target. Check out the ck2 wiki page on prepared invasions. They both have to be between 10 and 40 holdings within a kingdom.
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Jun 5, 2015 18:41
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Darth Windu posted:They both have to be between 10 and 40 holdings within a kingdom. You also have to have fewer than 40 holdings, and can only do a single prepared invasion per ruler.
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Jun 5, 2015 19:05
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SeaTard posted:You also have to have fewer than 40 holdings, and can only do a single prepared invasion per ruler. Right, I know, I fufilled both of those requirements. It's still a mystery!
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Jun 5, 2015 19:24
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Darth Windu posted:Right, I know, I fufilled both of those requirements. It's still a mystery! They have < 40 holdings within the de jure kingdom you're trying to invade?
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Jun 5, 2015 19:50
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Darth Windu posted:What determines whether I can prepared invasion someone? It seems really arbitrary. I can get the Asturias guy even though he doesn't have more than ten counties. I can't get pannonia for...reasons??? Does the prepared invasion not work against pagans? Darth Windu posted:They both have to be between 10 and 40 holdings within a kingdom. These two are not the same thing. Holdings are all the baronies, cities and temples combined. But either way, no I don't think it works on pagans, that's what your subjugation is for. TheBlackRoija fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jun 5, 2015 |
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TheBlackRoija posted:These two are not the same thing. OH drat I didn't know it counted all the little places. That sucks. Oh well! Sorry game! I still don't know why I'm not allowed to coastal conquer anyone non-catholic. Maybe its because they're so much smaller than me?
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Jun 5, 2015 20:12
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Darth Windu posted:OH drat I didn't know it counted all the little places. That sucks. Oh well! Sorry game! You're supposed to use subjugation against other pagans
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Bitter Mushroom posted:I use declare friends and rivals, as well as realistic battles mod. That mod makes you very likely to capture or kill the leaders of a defeated army, as well as increasing the chance of death in battle all round. You're actually more likely to escape unscathed if you are craven, making it a good trade off instead of just getting brave every time. Thanks, that's what I was looking for!
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I'm trying to wrap my mind around a particular play style I'm trying to accomplish. Basically, I started at the Charlemagne period as a Nordic duke, created Norway and planted my dynasty all over the place in Scandinavia. Now I'm looking at England and trying to dump the Norenger monarchy onto some cousin or someone of my kin and hop onto one of my Christian dynasty members who I planted in Jorvik and conquer England as a Norse Christian duke. Is there a way to do this?
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Jun 5, 2015 21:36
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Darth Windu posted:Yeah, if you want to keep your guy safe during battle then uh don't send him into battle. People like you are the problem with CK2. SnoochtotheNooch posted:I'm trying to wrap my mind around a particular play style I'm trying to accomplish. Basically, I started at the Charlimeign period as a Nordic duke, created Norway and planted my dynasty all over the place in Scandinavia. Now I'm looking at England and trying to dump the Norenger monarchy onto some cousin or someone of my kin and hop onto one of my Christian dynasty members who I planted in Jorvik and conquer England as a Norse Christian duke. Is there a way todo this? It's exceedingly difficult to swap dynasty 'branches' under non-elective government forms without just not having a direct heir, forcing a switch to a different branch.
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Jun 5, 2015 21:40
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Darth Windu posted:Yeah, if you want to keep your guy safe during battle then uh don't send him into battle. I've found that even if your guy isnt set to be a primary leader, he's still on the field getting stuck in often enough. IDK if he's leading one of the levies under the main leaders, it's certainly surprising when he dies when you thought he was chilling at home
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Jun 5, 2015 21:42
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Larry Parrish posted:People like you are the problem with CK2. because he used the console?
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Moridin920 posted:because he used the console? I used the console to get myself into a war that I wound up losing wow I'm so terrible smh I was able to prepared invasion Serbia for real though so it's all good. Countdown too the Byzantines come knocking
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Jun 5, 2015 21:54
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I think the head of state is always present in some way on the field of battle, even in cases where it might not make a complete amount of sense (like capturing the Pope during a crusade).
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Darth Windu posted:I used the console to get myself into a war that I wound up losing wow I'm so terrible smh literally the embodiment of everything wrong with Crusader Kings II
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Jun 5, 2015 22:13
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You guys, CK2 is dead to me now, someone used the console. Ruining the game for everybody.
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pwnyXpress posted:You guys, CK2 is dead to me now, someone used the console. Ruining the game for everybody. The more people use the console the more the game will slow down
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Jun 5, 2015 22:24
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Hotfix 2.3.5 is coming which will disable console.
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Bitter Mushroom posted:I've found that even if your guy isnt set to be a primary leader, he's still on the field getting stuck in often enough. IDK if he's leading one of the levies under the main leaders, it's certainly surprising when he dies when you thought he was chilling at home Yeah, it happens a lot. Is there any sure way of preventing your ruler from being in an army? The only way I know is by not raising my personal levies, which is not an option for most of the game.
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Half of my army away in France, my King gets killed and his 13 year old foreign heir who nobody likes takes the throne with his mum as a regent  Somehow managed to take the county I wanted and get my men back before anyone started poo poo.
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Groogy posted:Hotfix 2.3.5 is coming which will disable console. yeah paracocks listened to their fan base and game players for constructive criticsm. like that would ever even happen. 
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