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Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you

Stalins Moustache posted:

I'm a big lorenerd. Do I have to play Witcher 1 before I play 2? I've tried 1 several times but I always stop playing at the beginning because it's so dreadfully boring.

No but it's worth playing W1 because it gets pretty good after 20 hours or so in and there are a couple of characters that come back in W3 who you won't be as happy to see if you haven't run into them in W1.

Those first couple of chapters are utterly miserable though.

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Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Spite posted:


Though she is a hunchback in real life, where Triss is just horribly scarred.
Say what now?

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
I've put in about 50 hours and im only at skellidge, how much more can I expect?


romance talk: I wasn't a fan of triss on witcher 1 but they turned it around for the sequel, but now I'm split on deciding Geralt's love life, half inclined of just telling them both that I need some "space"

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Automatic Slim posted:

Say what now?

The Witcher is based on a true story, didn't you hear?

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011
The game is pretty true to the source material because the best characters are the ones whose lines are mostly snarky and sarcastic. That's why Yen is better than Triss and also why Lambert went from kind of a shithead in the books and W1 to one of the best characters.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich

Poetic Justice posted:

I haven't read the books, but I agree that Yen comes off cold initially in the game. They should have had you spend some quality time with her when you very first meet her, before you go off to Velen. I think that would make the choice a bit harder.

That's my main problem. I don't care about Yen at all because she's so distant and dismissive, yet hyped as Geralt's true love who he abandoned everything for. I'm told to care rather than [i]shown/[i] why I should care.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Andrast posted:

The Witcher is based on a true story, didn't you hear?


Sure, but I thought "potions" we're just exaggerated descriptions of LSD.

Corin Tucker's Stalker
May 27, 2001


One bullet. One gun. Six Chambers. These are my friends.
As fantastic as this game is, any sequence involving a chase is clunky and hilarious. Even the improved controls just don't support any kind of running sequence, and horses occasionally choose to stop for seemingly no reason while they have plenty of stamina.

I was just in a foot chase related to a quest called Carnal Sins and the entire sequence was jarringly nonsensical.

Someone tells Geralt that a bad guy just exited the room they're in, and the camera pans to the door. Cut back to the gameplay and I'm... no longer in the room. I'm standing on a stairway facing the door Geralt apparently just came through. So now I have to turn around and maneuver a stairway with a tight turn. Go outside and I can see the guy - great! Only, a pack of dogs comes after me. Logically, I sprint past them to keep the bad guy in my line of sight. Around the next corner I still see him for an instant. Only he disappears behind a bush, and now a squad of guards is in my way. I try to run past them (again, to keep the actual bad guy in my sights) and he has magically disappeared. There are no tracks, all doors are locked.

Turns out you're supposed to fight the guards, the ones who are protecting the same person you are. What. I understand that it's a case of mistaken identity, but it doesn't make sense for the quest to dump you into a mandatory fight while the guy you're chasing is practically right in front of you, at least not without a very obvious visual tell like a small cutscene of the guy leaping over a fence and Geralt turning toward the oncoming guards.


Half an hour ago I was in another chase. Well, chase isn't the right word for it. I was in a neverending series of small rooms climbing down ladders very slowly. If I had tried to hurry I would have missed the interact button at the top of each ladder or fallen.

tuna
Jul 17, 2003

I pre-ordered the expansion pass on gog which said it would come with witcher 1/2 free, but I'm not seeing them show up and I don't see any codes emailed to me (actually they emailed me sim city 2000 and stalker codes :confused:) How is it supposed to work?

Aishan
Oct 29, 2011

Verranicus posted:

So, how do I reach the POI on Kaer Amhult in Skellige? And, is there anything else of note there besides the Ursine Sword schematic, the POI and a bunch of pirates? I've got the schematic, cleared out the fortress but can't seem to find anything else to do or find a way to the POI.

Did you not find Tyrion Lannister enjoying his skycell? I think that's the hidden treasure there.

Spite
Jul 27, 2001

Small chance of that...

Automatic Slim posted:

Say what now?

All (most?) of the sorceresses are old crones that have made themselves unnaturally beautiful. I think it's actually in The Last Wish short story that Geralt realizes she's a hunchback.

I don't recall if Triss is a crone but she gets horribly burned in a battle.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:

As fantastic as this game is, any sequence involving a chase is clunky and hilarious. Even the improved controls just don't support any kind of running sequence, and horses occasionally choose to stop for seemingly no reason while they have plenty of stamina.

Yeah chases and escort quests are not so good in this game, though thankfully there aren't too many of them. Worst was a random guy in the Novigrad docks who wanted me to escort him to a business deal (he's a fisstech dealer picking up his supply) and that was one of the most frustrating bits of the game for me as he kept dying immediately to the packs of thugs that spawn along the way.

Thankfully during the quest to kill the ice giant on Skellige, the archer dude who joins you midway through seems to be invincible in combat. Not that he's super useful, mind you, but at least he's not dying like a moron constantly.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Spite posted:

All (most?) of the sorceresses are old crones that have made themselves unnaturally beautiful. I think it's actually in The Last Wish short story that Geralt realizes she's a hunchback.

I don't recall if Triss is a crone but she gets horribly burned in a battle.

Well in The Last Wish, Sapkowski said that all sorceresses are born ugly.



Then in the novels it's suddenly not just rejects but kings' normal-looking children who they just want to become powerful and stuff.
It's inconsistent, is what I'm saying.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:

As fantastic as this game is, any sequence involving a chase is clunky and hilarious. Even the improved controls just don't support any kind of running sequence, and horses occasionally choose to stop for seemingly no reason while they have plenty of stamina.

I was just in a foot chase related to a quest called Carnal Sins and the entire sequence was jarringly nonsensical.

Someone tells Geralt that a bad guy just exited the room they're in, and the camera pans to the door. Cut back to the gameplay and I'm... no longer in the room. I'm standing on a stairway facing the door Geralt apparently just came through. So now I have to turn around and maneuver a stairway with a tight turn. Go outside and I can see the guy - great! Only, a pack of dogs comes after me. Logically, I sprint past them to keep the bad guy in my line of sight. Around the next corner I still see him for an instant. Only he disappears behind a bush, and now a squad of guards is in my way. I try to run past them (again, to keep the actual bad guy in my sights) and he has magically disappeared. There are no tracks, all doors are locked.

Do note that there is a very good reason why the felon evaded you so easily, and that you don't need to kill the guards for the scene to advance.

That said I entirely agree that every foot or horse chase in the game has terrible gameplay.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:

As fantastic as this game is, any sequence involving a chase is clunky and hilarious. Even the improved controls just don't support any kind of running sequence, and horses occasionally choose to stop for seemingly no reason while they have plenty of stamina.

I was just in a foot chase related to a quest called Carnal Sins and the entire sequence was jarringly nonsensical.

Someone tells Geralt that a bad guy just exited the room they're in, and the camera pans to the door. Cut back to the gameplay and I'm... no longer in the room. I'm standing on a stairway facing the door Geralt apparently just came through. So now I have to turn around and maneuver a stairway with a tight turn. Go outside and I can see the guy - great! Only, a pack of dogs comes after me. Logically, I sprint past them to keep the bad guy in my line of sight. Around the next corner I still see him for an instant. Only he disappears behind a bush, and now a squad of guards is in my way. I try to run past them (again, to keep the actual bad guy in my sights) and he has magically disappeared. There are no tracks, all doors are locked.

Turns out you're supposed to fight the guards, the ones who are protecting the same person you are. What. I understand that it's a case of mistaken identity, but it doesn't make sense for the quest to dump you into a mandatory fight while the guy you're chasing is practically right in front of you, at least not without a very obvious visual tell like a small cutscene of the guy leaping over a fence and Geralt turning toward the oncoming guards.


Half an hour ago I was in another chase. Well, chase isn't the right word for it. I was in a neverending series of small rooms climbing down ladders very slowly. If I had tried to hurry I would have missed the interact button at the top of each ladder or fallen.

Did you finish that quest?

One Hundred Monkeys
Aug 7, 2010

Nion posted:

I'm on the In Wolf's Clothing quest and I've been spoiled on feeding him his own flesh being a solution, but I can't find any in-game hints for it. Are there any, or are you just supposed to wonder why he drops his flesh as a quest item and try it out?

Edit: Also, is there any way to get back into Caesar Bilzen's house? Apparently there's an item there that starts a quest, and I didn't pick it up when I went there.

There's a place in the gardens where you can find a shackle attached to a severed leg. If you ask Morkvarg about it, he'll tell you that some dude chained him up once and he had to gnaw off his own leg to escape. His description of how it hosed him up even worse than you'd expect from a dismemberment, together with the fact that anything he tries to eat turns to ash, hints that there might be loophole built into the curse - he always regenerates and destroys everything he eats, so what happens when he tries to eat himself?

No clue about Caesar, sorry.

Unknownone
Apr 23, 2003

Some stupid 04 bought me this

Pellisworth posted:

Thankfully during the quest to kill the ice giant on Skellige, the archer dude who joins you midway through seems to be invincible in combat. Not that he's super useful, mind you, but at least he's not dying like a moron constantly.

He bugged out in my game, and just stood there with his weapon drawing, offering literally no help. So he got told to get hosed for the rest of my playthrough, the coward.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



poptart_fairy posted:

It's a story heavy, character driven game. I'd be annoyed if there wasn't a lot of disagreement and squabbling honestly.

Nilfgaarde Did Nothing Wrong.

They have the coolest armors.

turtlecrunch
May 14, 2013

Hesitation is defeat.
I think the only guy I've seen around here that doesn't support or at least shrug off the Nilfs is the dev.

At least the Clear Weather Foltest deck will always be best, am I right Temeria? :haw:

One Hundred Monkeys
Aug 7, 2010

turtlecrunch posted:

I think the only guy I've seen around here that doesn't support or at least shrug off the Nilfs is the dev.

At least the Clear Weather Foltest deck will always be best, am I right Temeria? :haw:

I think they're pretty horrible if that helps

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
I choose to be like Geralt and hate both sides equally, gotta be impartial in case they want to give me money

Spiky Ooze
Oct 27, 2005

Bernie Sanders is a friend to my planet (pictured)


click the shit outta^

Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:

As fantastic as this game is, any sequence involving a chase is clunky and hilarious.

To be honest the sidequest gameplay in general sucks. They're mostly just go fetch this thing or kill this thing and use your witcher senses in a totally linear way, and it's not exactly ever much effort. What the game does really well is manage to hide mediocre gameplay by having a whole lot of cutscenes and unnecessary but cute extra story that draws you in.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
Nilfgaard occasionally comes off looking better because it's such a huge collective entity taking in all different kinds of people, but all of them still solve nearly every dispute with casual evisceration and Emhyr maintains control of his empire by brutally murdering anyone, anywhere, of any type, who so much as farts when his name is mentioned. They bring all the oppression of Pax Romana conquerers with few of the perks.

The main problem is that the North's only surviving monarch is Basically Hitler and its forces are turning to savagery because Nilfgaard keeps grinding away at them. Radovid might have been an acceptable, if ruthless, leader if it weren't for his paranoia finally outrunning his ambition with the mage pogroms, but now that Nilfgaard is showing him how inept he is, he's doubled down on the brutality to save his own ego. Still doesn't mean you should roll out of the red carpet for Nilfgaard, though. Everyone's a dick.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed
I gotta say I was expecting more from (final boss) Eredin, he never really touched me. Imlerith put up a better fight.

I was a little disappointed at how much of a bit part Fringilla ended up having too, she was a book character I was looking forward to seeing in the games and she pretty much just stands in the background (although I laughed at how Geralt's one and only conversation option is to hit on her). One of the expansions is due to take place in Touissant where she lives so maybe she'll turn up there?

Sio
Jan 20, 2007

better red than dead
Aside from being a lovely colonial empire that wants to introduce civilized concepts like slavery to the North, Nilfgaard sucks because (ENDING SPOILERS) they can't even win the war unless Geralt kills all the competent Northern leaders for them. Nilfgaard isn't just an evil empire, it's an incompetent evil empire.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

turtlecrunch posted:

I think the only guy I've seen around here that doesn't support or at least shrug off the Nilfs is the dev.

At least the Clear Weather Foltest deck will always be best, am I right Temeria? :haw:

it's always good weather for sisterfucking

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
Radovid is still worse. If I had to choose, I would choose Nilfgard every time without question.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich

CJacobs posted:

I choose to be like Geralt and hate both sides equally, gotta be impartial in case they want to give me money

Pretty much. Both sides are assholes, one just happens to pay more and is winning a war.

Does the game ever go into more detail about Radovid sticking a knife in his allies' back?

CVagts
Oct 19, 2009
Started a second playthrough. I'm going to need one of those gwent card checklists so that I make sure to play absolutely everyone and get absolutely every card in the game.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Agrajag posted:

Radovid is still worse. If I had to choose, I would choose Nilfgard every time without question.

:ssh:The choice isn't necessarily between Radovid and Nilfgard.

poptart_fairy posted:

Pretty much. Both sides are assholes, one just happens to pay more and is winning a war.

Does the game ever go into more detail about Radovid sticking a knife in his allies' back?
Because he's insane and paranoid.

Edit: Unless you're talking about Kaedwynn. That was because he saw an opportunity to oppose the Nilfgaard invasion by forcefully uniting them with Redania. The ambassador at the beginning of the game tells you about it.

Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jun 7, 2015

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011
Wait, why is the Feline Crossbow level 29 to equip and everything else in that set is 13 or 14? That's a little much.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

CVagts posted:

Started a second playthrough. I'm going to need one of those gwent card checklists so that I make sure to play absolutely everyone and get absolutely every card in the game.

For what it's worth I'm pretty sure there are more Gwent-playing merchants than there are random cards to win from them, the last 2-3 I've played haven't given me any cards and I'm near a complete set. IMO focus on making sure you get all the ones from random rear end quests

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
My Gwent card collection OCD is going to drive my Geralt completely insane if I don't stop so I've been trying to avoid it. I'm pretty terrible at it anyway.

One Hundred Monkeys
Aug 7, 2010

Agrajag posted:

Radovid is still worse. If I had to choose, I would choose Nilfgard every time without question.

Given the choice between a Northern empire under Radovid and a Nilfgaardian province ruled by some viceroy appointed by Emhyr, I will readily agree that Nilfgaard is the better option - Emhyr's a murderous tyrant, but at least he isn't a loving loon. However, it's probably worth keeping in mind that you wouldn't have to make that choice in the first place if Emhyr hadn't orchestrated the assassination of all the other Northern kings and the complete breakdown of social order in the north. Like, the whole war and its accompanying horrors are seriously 100 % Nilfgaard's fault, and they're doing it for no better reason than because Emhyr wants to kill Nordlings and steal their poo poo.

KiloVictorDongs
Apr 12, 2007
SOME PIG
Hmm, seems like I'm having issues with cutscenes not playing towards the end of the game--anyone else run into this?

Edit: I can press space to skip and that seems to work, but I'm at the credits (presumably), and it's just a series of black screens that I can skip. I'm assuming I'm missing all the satisfying falling action.

old-timey newspaper gal
Feb 23, 2005
Crap I got Triss to stay but my plan was to just have sex with her and then get back together with Yen. I haven't left for Skellige yet.

Will pay for double girlfriend DLC.


Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:


I was just in a foot chase related to a quest called Carnal Sins and the entire sequence was jarringly nonsensical.

Half an hour ago I was in another chase. Well, chase isn't the right word for it. I was in a neverending series of small rooms climbing down ladders very slowly. If I had tried to hurry I would have missed the interact button at the top of each ladder or fallen.

I also thought that portion of Carnal Sins was a bit awkward. Naturally I tried to continue my pursuit but ended running around that place checking locked doors. Finally fought the guards and then was teleported a fair distance back to where the cutscene could take place.

And yea halfway through those drat ladders I had already decided the guy was going to die for leading me on such an obnoxious chase.

old-timey newspaper gal fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jun 7, 2015

One Hundred Monkeys
Aug 7, 2010

Hot Jam posted:

Crap I got Triss to stay but my plan was to just have sex with her and then get back together with Yen. I haven't left for Skellige yet.

Will pay for double girlfriend DLC.


There's already a threesome scene in the game, what more do you want?

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Anybody else get the thing where when you finish some quests you get the sort of, animated in a woodcut style thing with Garalt talking over it? I've only had two so far, one at the end of the Bloody Baron questline and then at the end of the haunted house sidequest in Novigrad. Trouble is both times the dialogue has been so quiet I can barely hear it (rest of the game is fine) and they pop up kinda without warning.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
I think I'll just reinstal the weight mod, cause it's a serious hassle trying to handle all the clutter, I already sell every junk and books I read, but I still like to carry around varied armors for styling purposes; so I keep getting overburdened

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Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames

Aishan posted:

Did you not find Tyrion Lannister enjoying his skycell? I think that's the hidden treasure there.

Uhh, I didn't see anything like that. The POI is below the fort if the minimap is to be believed.

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