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pentyne posted:When Jon Stewart announced his retirement a lot of late night hosts were locked down with lavish contracts to keep them at their current shows. Most of them got locked in After the Leno/Conan shitshow. Also he drank too much Bud Lime in one go.
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OhYeah posted:I have my own criticism of Maher's show, but what is the prevailing "correct opinion" here? Maher's insufferably smug whether he has a decent point, is being an awful scumbag, or is being downright insane. He can gently caress himself. It's like he's a liberal strawman given life by the Koch brothers so the far right have someone to point at and go "these fuckin' guys, right?"
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Jun 8, 2015 18:12
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...That bit on bail was loving terrifying. Do the shows at least double check that the people being hunted have at least something to give audience sympathy for the bounty hunters, or does nobody actually care what the targets did or didn't do?
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Astro Nut posted:...That bit on bail was loving terrifying. Do the shows at least double check that the people being hunted have at least something to give audience sympathy for the bounty hunters, or does nobody actually care what the targets did or didn't do? I used to watch Dog a little bit, and it varied episode to episode. Sometimes they try to feign sympathy and leniency, after of course chasing them down, cuffing them, and dragging them into an office. Othertimes, gently caress it, they're scumbag criminals and our heroes need to stop them. Haven't seen much else in the format.
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Jun 8, 2015 18:32
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I hated Bill Maher before it was cool.  His anti-vax tendencies and islam-hating reddit atheism are just scratching the surface. His anti-science extends with his embrace of all things organic and his anti-GMO posturing. His strange defense of SOPA. His weird contempt with women and young people. How the basis of his career is almost literally "political correctness has gone too far". His HBO show functions as a program intended entirely for inside-the-beltway types where the political establishment can circlejerk. It's like the White House Correspondents Dinner every week. LWT is now the flagship political and current events comedy program on HBO. So making Maher less relevant is another thing we can thank Oliver for. Heck, even The Nightly Show, with all its problems, is a way more watchable panel show than Maher. Anyways, John Oliver managed to make your office's cat lady lovable. 
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Jun 8, 2015 18:55
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The only redeeming feature of Maher's show at this point are the guests, in my opinion. I particularly like when he gets articulate Republicans on there. On the bail thing...after the big shootout in Waco last month, 170 people were arrested with bail set at $1 million dollars each, and now over 100 are still waiting in jail for bail reduction hearings scheduled out into July. Waco has resisted calls to get additional judges brought in to help with the case load, too. Clearly some of the arrested people have some involvement with organized crime and/or the shoot out itself, but many do not. As a result, dozens of people will end up having spent 1-2 months in jail for the crimes of wearing a leather vest at brunch and not being a millionaire. Meanwhile, the bail bondsmen of the area are getting rich. Pretty disgusting.
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Jun 8, 2015 19:19
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Maher was OK when his show Politically Incorrect was on Comedy Central. It was even OK for most of its run on whatever broadcast network it landed on later. He wasn't quite the leftist pundit that he is now. Back then, he seemed left of center, but not annoyingly so. At the time, I was right of center, and he was very watchable. The show was even thought-provoking at times. At some point, though, he started to move further and further to the left on many issues, and nowadays, if a Republican said the sky was blue, he'd have a 45-minute rebuttal ready by the next week's show. But even that would be OK if he just weren't so ridiculously stupid about other things. After all, if we can have a Glenn Beck, a Rush Limbaugh, and an Ann Coulter, then we can suffer a Bill Maher or two. But the GMO stuff and the anti-vaccine stuff... it's just too much. He even thought that religious groups must have been behind his crappy "documentary" Religulous not winning an academy award. Because of course that's the only explanation.
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Jun 8, 2015 19:52
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As much as I hate it when legitimate criticism about Islam is shot down with cries of Islamaphobia, Maher does seem to be a massive prick about how he goes about it. Great show this week. Can't believe he downed the whole bottle. thehustler fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jun 8, 2015 |
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Jun 8, 2015 20:02
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tarlibone posted:Maher was OK when his show Politically Incorrect was on Comedy Central. It was even OK for most of its run on whatever broadcast network it landed on later. I think he still perceives himself as this daring independent thinker (look, he might vote for Rand Paul, oooh) even though he's pretty much exactly the same as every other vaguely-liberal vaguely-wealthy dude in his zip code.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:02
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Bill Maher's politically incorrect show back on ABC was a really solid and fun panel discussion. His HBO vehicle has gradually degraded over time - he's definitely been outpaced by liberalism no longer feeling like such a dirty word.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:07
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In bill maher's movie about crazy religious people the only jewish person he interviews is a guy who says the state of Israel should not exist because their religious teachings say god says "when you're ready for a homeland I'll give it to you" and they went and claimed it for themselves which cuts him out of the loop and maybe pisses him off. Maher cuts him off and storms out, throwing his clipped on mic down after one sentence and says I'm done with this. He's such a hilarious baby to be unable to even listen to this guy's opinion when he could have gone the most patient man on television route and said "uh huh okay next we have..." And that he's crazy about vaccines made me also think he was a truther but actually truthers just harass him by getting tickets to his show and then demanding he explain jet fuel melting steel beams until thrown out. He's dumb about some things and it makes me think he's dumb about everything. I looked real dumb on twitter once and this is his fault somehow.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:33
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Bill Maher sucks, he's been intolerable since forever unless you're a really specific kind of liberal, and even though I'm really far left, i'm not his kind of liberal, and I'd be happy if the world just moves on past him and his idiocy.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:50
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Normally around this time in any given week I'd see videos of the main story around the internet. This week all I'm seeing is Oliver drinking bud light lime.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:06
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sbaldrick posted:Most of them got locked in After the Leno/Conan shitshow. Any amount of Bud Lime is too much Bud Lime.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:52
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hemophilia posted:Bill Maher sucks, he's been intolerable since forever unless you're a really specific kind of liberal, and even though I'm really far left, i'm not his kind of liberal, and I'd be happy if the world just moves on past him and his idiocy.
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Jun 9, 2015 00:09
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Timett posted:Normally around this time in any given week I'd see videos of the main story around the internet. This week all I'm seeing is Oliver drinking bud light lime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5mwymTIJU
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Jun 9, 2015 00:56
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it's not that I couldn't find it just seems like it would be frustrating for the main story to be getting over shadowed by the fluff.
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Jun 9, 2015 01:03
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Josh Lyman posted:I thought Maher was a libertarian. There's a right wing and a left wing...libertarianism is like the lymphatic system. It can be anywhere on the body politic - usually the part that's getting the most attention.
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Jun 9, 2015 01:07
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Timett posted:it's not that I couldn't find it just seems like it would be frustrating for the main story to be getting over shadowed by the fluff. Well there are very few sites who could've screamed about how John is right this week and not been massively hypocritical, plus I think this is the first time he's targeted a wide group of the media.
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Jun 9, 2015 01:28
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njsykora posted:Well there are very few sites who could've screamed about how John is right this week and not been massively hypocritical, plus I think this is the first time he's targeted a wide group of the media. Best episode of the show. I pray this gains traction.
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Jun 9, 2015 01:53
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I'm still surprised how many "liberal" blogs tried to spin John Oliver's interview with Edward Snowden to people who who haven't seen it, trying to make it seem like it made Snowden look bad or something. Actually I'm not that surprised.
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Wow, I never thought that Gunsmith Cats was an accurate depiction of the American legal system. I wonder how long it'll be until there's a high-profile bounty hunter murder. That stuff about Washington and Florida was interesting, but otherwise I doubt anything will change any time soon, considering how the bail system is hardwired into the constitution. As for Bill Maher, he's just an rear end. Worst thing I can say about John Oliver is that he has a bit of a vendetta against cheap food.
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Josh Lyman posted:I thought Maher was a libertarian. He is, in that lolbertarians are terrible idiots no matter which side of center they purport to fall on. He's like every terrible false stereotype of liberalism, he's on the right side of many issues but he's also literally everything that is wrong with ignorant rear end celebrity liberals and also a living conservative strawman. He's ignorant as gently caress about anything science in that he's an anti-vax, anti-GMO, anti-nuke idiot, the embodiment of the right's "war on religion" boogeyman, and somehow manages to transcend the right's general islamophobia with his own brand of it that is even more irrational and ignorant than theirs. He says he's a liberal and a lolbertairan but he's thought about any of it as deeply as "stuff he's irrationally afraid of because he doesn't understand it," "Religion is dumb," and "WEED" bundled with the generic hollywood politics. He's right on a lot, Bush's wars were terrible, weed should be legal, religion is very very dumb, conservatives deserve to be mocked for their backward stupid opinions, but then there's everything else he says. Bill Maher is the human embodiment of YOU'RE NOT HELPING.
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Echo Chamber posted:I'm still surprised how many "liberal" blogs tried to spin John Oliver's interview with Edward Snowden to people who who haven't seen it, trying to make it seem like it made Snowden look bad or something. I guess they miss how he's a good interviewer since he doesn't throw softballs the whole time.
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Pinky Artichoke posted:I think he still perceives himself as this daring independent thinker (look, he might vote for Rand Paul, oooh) even though he's pretty much exactly the same as every other vaguely-liberal vaguely-wealthy dude in his zip code. He's just another dbag who proves that the extreme left and extreme right are basically the same people with different clothing for their lovely views. Bent horseshoe and all that poo poo.
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etalian posted:I guess they miss how he's a good interviewer since he doesn't throw softballs the whole time. I think I'm not putting too many words in Oliver's mouth by saying he ***might*** have disapproved of Snowden deferring blame to journalists for disclosing some very specific stuff that ***might*** have been better off remaining undisclosed to the public. But that disapproval (if it existed) was nothing compared to the government grabbing power outside the bounds of the law to snoop on people. But guessing that this nuanced position was Oliver's is still speculating too much. Oliver wasn't there to be Snowden's publicist, so he should have held his feet to the fire before pointing out the bigger picture. But those bloggers were hoping people wouldn't watch the interview for themselves and take at face value the description of the interview as Snowden making a fool of himself. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jun 9, 2015 |
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Best episode of the show. I pray this gains traction. Yeah the last two episodes have been really good. I hope they keep on this formula because for some reason it seems to be different from earlier episodes in the season but it is really working for me.
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apatheticman posted:That was a weird panning shot of Calgary in the pretrail services parody. For real. I thought I was seeing things, it went by so quick yet was unmistakeable.
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I hope next week he does a piece on the madness that has overtaken Kansas. Where they kept cutting taxes until they couldn't actually pay for anything and when state employees were told that unessential employees would be going on furlough they changed the classification to say that all state employees are essential. However they still don't have any money so now they're just expected to continue working without pay. That's not the worst part, Kansas governor Sam Brownback signed a law into effect this week that tells the state supreme court that if they rule against laws he's signed they will lose their budget.
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His Trinidad paid spot aired today http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/watch-john-olivers-message-to-jack-warner-that-aired-on-1710240005 Poor quality but I couldn't find it posted anywhere else yet
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Oh, no, that was a personal problem. It's working now.
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The best part of the Kansas story is that despite everyone in Kansas admitting they hosed up, Sam Brownback won re-election.
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The best part about Kansas is it has become so bad that the Federal government may have to take over the state. Especially if they defund the Justice system.
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sbaldrick posted:The best part about Kansas is it has become so bad that the Federal government may have to take over the state. Especially if they defund the Justice system. Is that even legal?
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Pinky Artichoke posted:Is that even legal? The stuff Kansas is doing? No.
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Pinky Artichoke posted:Is that even legal? It might be the first state where the Federal government literally has to step in and take over as the Gov. tries to turn the state into an autocratic monstrosity.
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pentyne posted:It might be the first state where the Federal government literally has to step in and take over as the Gov. tries to turn the state into an autocratic monstrosity. I only hope the Feds do it 5 minutes after the polls close in Hawaii. Then Obama can go full Reconstruction on their asses without having to worry about the election. Obama's coming home Kansas, and he's got some ideas about what you've done with the place.
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I had no idea Kansas had gotten that hilariously bad. I hope he does do a segment on it if only because his, "That's not [geographical region]. This is [geographical region]," gag unironically never gets old.
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direct YouTube link. still crappy quality Melissa McCarthy can't get out of her contract. 
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muscles like this? posted:The stuff Kansas is doing? No. Both parts, actually: What Kansas is doing *and* the federal government stepping in. I honestly don't know how much authority the Feds have to mess with state governance.
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