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Barudak
May 7, 2007

In addition to the moxie cola example for something more recent Hillshire Farm after being spun off went dark for about a year and lost almost half of their market share and got pushed out of grocery stores which resulted in massive amounts of layoffs and a brutal uphill climb to get back into the stores.

So yeah, going dark kills you.

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cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Big Mad Drongo posted:

I think a big part of the problem is no one knows how to properly define what a Millennial is; I've seen the birth dates range from 1977 to 2014 (the latter being about baby food and defined current babies as the last of the Millennials)

Cool, both my wife, children and I are millennials.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Croccers posted:

I'm pretty sure this has been linked in here before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JDmb_f3E2c

Most of this is good, but they state that "companies love to segment products, so they can sell more"

"that way celebrityslim can sell many more shakes!"

That doesn't make sense. Making a general product and selling 2, one to a man and one to a woman, and then making a male product and selling it to a man and a female product and selling it to a woman, you're selling the exact same amount of product. The only way it works is if the gendered products appeal to the audience greater and create new sales. Simply fragmenting your existing sales in half doesn't mean its twice as much.

death .cab for qt posted:

IIRC ad inundation is actually really effective at maintaining sales, not necessarily expanding it. There was some large brand, I want to say like Pepsi or some poo poo, which was so confident that everybody knew who they were and would buy their product anyway that they just stopped constantly shoving ads on TV. They weren't seeing appreciable growth in sales vs their marketing budget and just couldnt justify the amount they were spending because of it.

Sales plummeted by a decent margin. They weren't gaining new sales, but the constant ads kept them relevant. Without them, their main competitor (in this case Coke, I guess) quickly snapped up the difference in market share, and it took literal years to close that gap again.

Yeah, I was afraid of that. Seems stupid but I guess that's how things work.

Well at least the constant repeat ads could be less annoying! :argh:

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

As far as banner ads go 'we sell this, have a coupon code' is how I think everyone should do it.

Dr_Amazing
Apr 15, 2006

It's a long story

Zaphod42 posted:

Speaking of dumb moves in marketing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPwhMoQBg_8

Its a little funny and I guess they were going for the shock element to stay in people's memory or something.

But seriously, did Axe think they were going to get people to start buying products for washing their junk exclusively?

I get that they're trying to push loofas to men but I don't think "wash your balls!" is gonna do it.

I got one of these as a gag gift once. There's no way you'd want to scrub your balls with it though. But the commercial is funny and I prefer funny commercials.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Tunicate posted:

As far as banner ads go 'we sell this, have a coupon code' is how I think everyone should do it.

Thanks to programmatic creative that will be true for you in the coming future!

If you want to discuss frighteningly intelligent look no further than using charitable donations to get doctor information to peddle your drug or doing education campaigns for health risks that only promote locations where you're product can be found.

stringball
Mar 17, 2009

Dr_Amazing posted:

I got one of these as a gag gift once. There's no way you'd want to scrub your balls with it though. But the commercial is funny and I prefer funny commercials.

Its stiff as gently caress and unless you use a decent amount of force it doesn't lather for poo poo, lord knows I'm not putting that much force on my balls

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Turns out putting a two-way mirror in a women's bathroom stall and then insulting the people who complain might be bad for business.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Henchman of Santa posted:

Turns out putting a two-way mirror in a women's bathroom stall and then insulting the people who complain might be bad for business.

I thought everybody was being dumb calling this a two-way mirror because its a one-way mirror, but after googling apparently they're called both? That's confusing.

A local burger joint in town has one-way mirrors in the bathrooms, but they're the other way around. People eating outside just see a mirror, but if you're inside using the stalls, it looks like everybody can see you, like you're in a fish tank taking a piss. Its a pretty funny joke.

Reversing it though is pretty hosed up. I thought at first since she kept saying "two-way mirror" that it was just a normal mirror that happened to be facing the toilet seat. I thought she was going to suggest there was a hidden camera somewhere using the mirror in order to get a good view. But nope; that's a different door then the door you use to get into the bathroom? (Who does that?) Some kind of janitor closet? And you can see right through the mirror?

There's no defending that. Somebody should sue the poo poo out of the establishment.

Kugyou no Tenshi
Nov 8, 2005

We can't keep the crowd waiting, can we?

stringball posted:

Its stiff as gently caress and unless you use a decent amount of force it doesn't lather for poo poo, lord knows I'm not putting that much force on my balls

I guess they've gone downhill in recent years? Back when AXE wasn't marketed directly at the douchebag lords of brainless pussy, I got one of those "detailers" for free with a bottle of fairly inoffensive body wash. It's the only bath puff I've ever had that didn't fall apart after three showers, and the rough side gets the scaly stuff off my knees and elbows.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

It's the only bath puff I've ever had that didn't fall apart after three showers,

Just how are you washing yourself, exactly?

May Contain Nuts
Sep 12, 2007

but still delicious

Zaphod42 posted:

Most of this is good, but they state that "companies love to segment products, so they can sell more"

"that way celebrityslim can sell many more shakes!"

That doesn't make sense. Making a general product and selling 2, one to a man and one to a woman, and then making a male product and selling it to a man and a female product and selling it to a woman, you're selling the exact same amount of product. The only way it works is if the gendered products appeal to the audience greater and create new sales. Simply fragmenting your existing sales in half doesn't mean its twice as much.

It could mean more revenue, although maybe not twice as much. If my girlfriend and I both wash our hair with Spaceballs: the Shampoo then we would get the largest size bottle that can fit on the shelf in the shower. But once we switch to Druidian Princess Hair Cleanser and Mawg Head Scrub then we will have to get a smaller bottle of each at a 35% markup by volume so that there is shelf space for both. Same principle applies if the product is perishable.

Kugyou no Tenshi
Nov 8, 2005

We can't keep the crowd waiting, can we?

Wanamingo posted:

Just how are you washing yourself, exactly?

You have to scrub until all your sins collect around the drain, washed pure by your blood, right?

(I am an ashy skin factory and owned a bunch of puffs ranging from '99 cents from the plastic tube in the shampoo aisle at CVS' to '$10 from The Body Shop' and for some reason the fuckers always unraveled the moment I put any pressure more than 'lightly brushing' on them)

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Zaphod42 posted:

I thought everybody was being dumb calling this a two-way mirror because its a one-way mirror, but after googling apparently they're called both? That's confusing.



In America, we call two way mirrors "windows."

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

May Contain Nuts posted:

It could mean more revenue, although maybe not twice as much. If my girlfriend and I both wash our hair with Spaceballs: the Shampoo then we would get the largest size bottle that can fit on the shelf in the shower. But once we switch to Druidian Princess Hair Cleanser and Mawg Head Scrub then we will have to get a smaller bottle of each at a 35% markup by volume so that there is shelf space for both. Same principle applies if the product is perishable.

That's a fair point, but yeah, not double. I overlooked the volume markeup (that's how they get you!) Also I love your example brand names. :allears:

Xibanya
Sep 17, 2012




Clever Betty
Gendered products make them harder to share, as was said above. Most insidiously, with toys they make the child reject hand-me-downs.

Big Grunty Secret
Aug 28, 2007

Just one question, though. Is there a way to take off my pants?

Zaphod42 posted:

I thought everybody was being dumb calling this a two-way mirror because its a one-way mirror, but after googling apparently they're called both? That's confusing.

Two-way mirrors (the perv ones) are called that because they work two ways: reflection and see-through. One-way mirrors (regular mirrors) are just reflective.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

One way mirrors are called that because they are only a mirror in one direction.

A window would be a zero-way mirror :smuggo:

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Tunicate posted:

One way mirrors are called that because they are only a mirror in one direction.

A window would be a zero-way mirror :smuggo:

So are walls, interestingly enough.

Not My Leg
Nov 6, 2002

AYN RAND AKBAR!

Ruzihm posted:

So are walls, interestingly enough.

As are all other things except mirrors.

Contrecoup
Mar 30, 2015
How many way mirror is a partially reflective surface that doesn't return a clear image?

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

0 < x <1

fistful of hammers
Nov 11, 2011
What's this? A nice little commercial for toilet paper in which a porcelain rabbit yearns for the sweet, sweet release of death: https://youtu.be/WDkwFzmJTk0

dirksteadfast
Oct 10, 2010
Took a trip to Maui with my wife's family last summer. While trying to figure out dinner one night a commercial for Norm's came on the TV (which we know is crap but it's cheap and easy and open 24 hours so it was an option at least). It was a localized commercial too, because they even started in with "Aloha" or some such Hawaiian phrasing.

Looked into where the closest one was. There wasn't a Norm's on our island...or any of the Hawaiian islands. In fact the website seems to show there only being California locations. Any Hawaiian goons care to explain why this commercial exists? Is it specifically for the tourists from California to know where they can eat after their plane ride back home?

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

dirksteadfast posted:

Is it specifically for the tourists from California to know where they can eat after their plane ride back home?

Pretty much this. They want to keep Norm's on your mind, few people would search every island or even that far to discover that there are none nearby, but it's the same thing as advertising for well known brands like McDonald's and such, just to keep it in your memory.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

dirksteadfast posted:

Looked into where the closest one was. There wasn't a Norm's on our island...or any of the Hawaiian islands. In fact the website seems to show there only being California locations. Any Hawaiian goons care to explain why this commercial exists? Is it specifically for the tourists from California to know where they can eat after their plane ride back home?

Did you see any of our weird local Kia dealership commercials? They bought some beady-eyed rodent fursuits for their employees to bounce around in awkwardly for thirty seconds while they try to do a low-budget imitation of the already-creepy Kia commercials with the CGI hamsters.

Autechresaint
Jan 25, 2012

Zaphod42 posted:

I thought everybody was being dumb calling this a two-way mirror because its a one-way mirror, but after googling apparently they're called both? That's confusing.

A local burger joint in town has one-way mirrors in the bathrooms, but they're the other way around. People eating outside just see a mirror, but if you're inside using the stalls, it looks like everybody can see you, like you're in a fish tank taking a piss. Its a pretty funny joke.

Reversing it though is pretty hosed up. I thought at first since she kept saying "two-way mirror" that it was just a normal mirror that happened to be facing the toilet seat. I thought she was going to suggest there was a hidden camera somewhere using the mirror in order to get a good view. But nope; that's a different door then the door you use to get into the bathroom? (Who does that?) Some kind of janitor closet? And you can see right through the mirror?

There's no defending that. Somebody should sue the poo poo out of the establishment.

Are you talking about Mighty Fine? I always thought that was odd and could cause more headaches than good, what with leering creeps ogling from the privacy of a bathroom stall.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Autechresaint posted:

Are you talking about Mighty Fine? I always thought that was odd and could cause more headaches than good, what with leering creeps ogling from the privacy of a bathroom stall.

Yes sir, Might Fine burgers.

The first time I used the bathroom there, right as I unzipped my fly to use the stall, some woman leaned in and used the mirror to adjust her mascara. It looked like she was seriously staring right at my junk, trying to get a closer look. I bet she had no idea that they were funny mirrors like that, since only men would have been into the restroom and noticed.

thewireguy
Jul 2, 2013
This thread delivers. I won't comment on everything, but this is like watching a car wreck. I must watch every video. I I ow how this is made, and therefore laughable. Well spent $10. :)

thewireguy
Jul 2, 2013

You touched a nerve here, as a saints fan iron head was awesome. He did a better one for those shower schrunchies. One sec while I google-fu. I failed, but use those things rather than a rag. Coincidence?

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Those Game of War boobs are about to get 20+ years older. Kate Upton will be replaced by...Mariah Carey.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Henchman of Santa posted:

Those Game of War boobs are about to get 20+ years older. Kate Upton will be replaced by...Mariah Carey.

I'm not sure any of the target audience will even know who she is :cheeky:

Should have gotten somebody like Sasha Grey instead, knowing Game of War's marketing tactics.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style

Henchman of Santa posted:

Those Game of War boobs are about to get 20+ years older. Kate Upton will be replaced by...Mariah Carey.

I'd love to have seen the reactions in the office when that decision was announced. :psyduck:

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

fistful of hammers posted:

What's this? A nice little commercial for toilet paper in which a porcelain rabbit yearns for the sweet, sweet release of death: https://youtu.be/WDkwFzmJTk0

This is my new favorite ad. I might just go out of my way to buy Quilted Northern next time I go to Vons.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

Henchman of Santa posted:

Those Game of War boobs are about to get 20+ years older. Kate Upton will be replaced by...Mariah Carey.
"7 figures" for 30 seconds of work. Shes going to make more money in literally one second than I do for the entire year.




Yes I make below 33k/year. :v:

Cage has a new favorite as of 23:37 on Jun 12, 2015

thewireguy
Jul 2, 2013

Zaphod42 posted:

I'm not sure any of the target audience will even know who she is :cheeky:

Should have gotten somebody like Sasha Grey instead, knowing Game of War's marketing tactics.

I could fap to that. Spartacus did a better soft porn/swordplay than game of thrones and the ceramic animals yearning for death is hilarious.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

thewireguy posted:

I could fap to that. Spartacus did a better soft porn/swordplay than game of thrones and the ceramic animals yearning for death is hilarious.

Does Spartacus shoot up in quality after the first season or something? I watched the first six or eight episodes and just could not get into it.

thewireguy
Jul 2, 2013

Toast Museum posted:

Does Spartacus shoot up in quality after the first season or something? I watched the first six or eight episodes and just could not get into it.

I think I so, but I was on a drunken Netflix binge, so take that with a grain of salt. There was an adequate amount of blobs, and man rear end if you like that to break up the drama and sword stuff... I enjoyed it. Now, back to laughable commercials!

thewireguy
Jul 2, 2013

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

Delicious, delicious dump trucks.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Lobsters are also not kosher which hurts their reputation. They're also bottom dwellers that just kind of eat like whatever. They're basically the dump trucks of the ocean.

Now I am from Louisiana, and suck crawfish heads ( no homo) but, theoretically, can you cook a lobster with Cajun spices? I had one once and was unimpressed. Butter does not do it for me.

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Toast Museum posted:

Does Spartacus shoot up in quality after the first season or something? I watched the first six or eight episodes and just could not get into it.

Yes, by a long shot.

After the slave revolt starts you get a ton of action and fights in every single episode.

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