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SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Lord Lambeth posted:

I installed that mod and it was annoying as gently caress.
It's cool a couple times, but it gets old, especially when you're at Hoover Dam at the endgame and can't just press T and wait the storm out.

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Bholder posted:

The other, actually more credible leak completely condraticts it, not to mention that one reddit post came out the same time the fake Fallout 4 reveal happened.

Ah, as I thought.

Its probably going to be Laura Bailey, I swear she is every female voice in New Vegas.

khy
Aug 15, 2005

SRM posted:

Install Nevada Skies, it has dust storms, rad storms, thunderstorms, and you can set it to the "Apocalypse" preset if you really want it to go nuts.

I have Nevada Skies. It has multiple problems.

1) It rains more often and heavier rainfall in the Mojave Desert with Nevada Skies, than it does in Louisiana. The 'thermo hygrograph' or whatever that lets me control weather settings, seemingly does nothing to reduce the rainfall.

2) The dust storms are, admittedly, awesome. The first fifty or sixty times you see them (meaning about three hours into the game). Then it gets loving old. Once again, setting it to happen less frequently seems to do loving NOTHING.

3) The thunder is amazing and deep and the best part of the mod. The reason this is a problem is because it makes me put up with 1 and 2 to get some of the best thunder effects in any game.


I know. It's just that when I saw the film and saw the wall of dust and the massive fuckoff twister (Not a spoiler, it's in the trailer!) my first thought is 'Christ why couldn't anything this epic and amazing happen in New Vegas'.

khy fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jun 10, 2015

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
Word on the street is that Fallout 4 will include a "low intelligence" dialogue feature but, in a Monkey-Paw twist, a miscalculation makes it so that you need an impossible Intelligence stat (i.e. 11 or greater) to have access to the "normal" dialogue options. Thus, everybody will be stuck with retarded dialogue options and will only partially comprehend NPC dialogue. Then it will be revealed that there never was a "low intelligence" dialogue feature.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
so, fallout 3 dialogue then

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Speaking of Fallout 3 stupidity, I made a terrible mistake to clean out my backlog and went back into this mess. The even more funny thing about Fawkes screaming DESTINY when you original try to ask him to flip the switch to the purifier is that when you first meet him in Vault 87, his entire reason to be there is to walk in a lethally irradiated pathway to retrieve the G.E.C.K. for you. Why the gently caress is it not cowardice to avoid toughing that poo poo out in Finding the Garden of Eden but is when you refuse to enter the chamber which has no reason to have a DUMP RADIATION INTO THE LAB button? The answer is Bethesda.

cthulhoo
Jun 18, 2012

JawKnee posted:

so, fallout 3 dialogue then

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

did bethesda ever address why your dad in fallout 3 had a british accent 200 years into post apocalyptic america

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Him and Tenpenny just rode a boat over.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

did colin moriarty come on the same boat

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
The ship was called the "Sea Bean", and it was a rust hulk that paddled across the sun-scorched Atlantic to settle down in the port of Washington DC. Yes, Colin Moriarty and Tenpenny (he even explicitly mentions the ship) and your dad were on this ship. Ironically, the place they were fleeing, Europe, was relatively unscathed by Nuclear War. Like, basically what we would perceive 1960's Europe to be. I guess people just couldn't tolerate any more socialism.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

i would gladly have stayed in socialist europe vs bombed out husk of america

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
At least the Americans are free. Moriarty tells you as much if you manage to get him to gurgle something coherent in that awful accent of his.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

RBA Starblade posted:

Colonel Autumn wanting to just establish rule through hydraulic despotism instead of Eden's ultra-genocide was probably the most interesting part about the Enclave, until Bethesda didn't do anything with it.


It's too bad the coolest faction has the most tedious quests. Around the time you're doing chores for House dealing with factions is where the game starts to nosedive for me. New Vegas is bad, the back and forth for the King is horrible (again, best factions shittiest things), the air field is bad, dealing with the Brotherhood and Benny is fun, Omerta's okay, I constantly forget the Great Khans exist, and I always murder Caesar because that brawl escaping is great.

loving this. It all feels like realy bad busy work and filler. I loved the boomers. But now i have to help some dipshit get his dick wet and run back and forth 15 times between the boomers and that other place with the girl. All the quests had so much dumb loving filler.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

At least the Americans are free. Moriarty tells you as much if you manage to get him to gurgle something coherent in that awful accent of his.

Yes, because socialism is bad. Apparently. Wait, what?

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

Mordaedil posted:

Yes, because socialism is bad. Apparently. Wait, what?

In the Fallout universe, Europe did their whole "collapse into ruins and tribals" thing before a single nuke flew, which I think was his point. If you're eager to live in Europe in the Fallout universe, you and everyone with you died long ago.

MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Jun 10, 2015

Gibberish
Sep 17, 2002

by R. Guyovich

Mordaedil posted:

Yes, because socialism is bad. Apparently. Wait, what?

TACTICAL ASSESSMENT - RED CHINESE VICTORY: IMPOSSIBLE

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
Couldn't have said it better myself.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




If 4 doesn't have VATS I won't even buy it.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

MisterBibs posted:

In the Fallout universe, Europe did their whole "collapse into ruins and tribals" thing before a single nuke flew, which I think was his point. If you're eager to live in Europe in the Fallout universe, you and everyone with you died long ago.

When was that noted again? First Fallout or later on?

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

khy posted:

I know. It's just that when I saw the film and saw the wall of dust and the massive fuckoff twister (Not a spoiler, it's in the trailer!) my first thought is 'Christ why couldn't anything this epic and amazing happen in New Vegas'.

Because Bethesda games are boring pieces of poo poo where the only fun to be had is the fun you make for yourself. Expecting an awesome set piece like that is asking too much of Bethesda, the thing that they are good at is creating a big open world that only changes due to the player's actions, having something badass that just randomly fucks with things all dwarf fortress style is completely unlike anything that they've ever done. They're in the theme park gaming business, not the open world simulation business, because theme parks make a lot more money and are more consistent.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


evilmiera posted:

When was that noted again? First Fallout or later on?

The Resource Wars are mentioned a few times. There was a limited nuclear war between Europe and the Middle East though. Europe was pretty well hosed by the time the Great War happened, but the exact level of hosed isn't mentioned. JE Sawyer wanted to make a game that took place during that though, so maybe some day.

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:
Fallout 4 could be a reskin of flappy bird for all I care and I'll still buy it. :20bux:

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
It would be cool if Obsidian developed this using whatever engine was used for RAGE

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Lazy_Liberal posted:

Fallout 4 could be a reskin of flappy bird for all I care and I'll still buy it. :20bux:

I got bad news for you:

Guy Fieri will star in Fallout 4

quote:

Several years ago, after celebrity "chef" Guy Fieri admitted to "being a huge video game fan", [Howard] apparently extended an offer to Fieri to do voice work on the project that would turn out to be Fallout 4.

"I didn't even know anything about the game, but Todd was like, 'you've got so much personality in your food!' and he wanted to know if I had the same sort of 'star power' in my voice acting. I said that I act all the time. When I'm on camera--every time--that's me acting. And so, yeah, I knocked it out of the park."

When asked about details on the character he would be playing, Fieri couldn't say too much, but mentioned that he would be one of the "good guys" that would follow the "person playing the game" around--and that his signature bleached hair would also be making an appearance.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Cardboard Box posted:

did colin moriarty come on the same boat

no he came down from Boston, come on dude

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:

If 4 doesn't have VATS I won't even buy it.

it was such a core part of the fallout 3/nv gameplay flow that i would be shocked if it didn't

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

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GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


vats is garbage and it would be good if they instead worked on making the shooting mechanics good

they wont though

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

yeah for me vats was just a "gently caress it" button when i didn't want to bother aiming and shooting. it felt like a much more helpful thing on consoles than on pc.

Theta Zero
Dec 22, 2014

I've seen it.
The shooting in the modern Fallout games has always been sloppy, even with VATS's many shortcomings ignored. It was hard to utilize cover when the objects had less-than-airtight hitboxes so your gun which was clearly poking above whatever you're using as cover would somehow just have the bullets come out of the grip instead of the barrel and hit the thing anyways. On top of the the ironsights being mostly unclear, crippling limbs being mostly pointless when you can just headshot them and kill them right away, and that half the enemies couldn't aim to save their lives even on the hardest setting and the optimal strategy was usually just bumrushing, which the enemies seem to be aware of because that's also all they do.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

god i hope the shooting is at least serviceable in this one lol

Frankston
Jul 27, 2010


I really liked VATS because I'm poo poo at aiming and I get flustered

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

VATS was great in Fallout 3 because the VATS specific perks were overpowered as all hell and since the awful level scaling turned everything into bullet sponges anyway, it was a nice "gently caress this, kill everything in cool ways" button.

It was pretty pointless in New Vegas though since with the introduction of iron sights I just fired manually and enemies were only bullet sponges if you were severely underlevelled or underequipped and the VATS specific perks were nerfed into uselessness.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
I like VATS because I do not play FPS games religiously and I am actually kind of terrible at lining up my shots and compensating for whatever variations are programmed into the games.

It's not like I'm sitting there playing Call of Duty or whatever, I'm trying to play an RPG. I don't care about shooting people.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

weren't the ironsights in new vegas just cosmetic and functionally identical to the zoom that was already in fallout 3

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Cardboard Box posted:

weren't the ironsights in new vegas just cosmetic and functionally identical to the zoom that was already in fallout 3

It reduces shot spread, reduces movement speed and slows the amount your cursor travels across the screen when turning.

I think that's roughly the same as zoom in fallout 3, but the cosmetic change is a huge deal for *gamefeel*.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

oh yeah i agree haha, to the point that i used an ironsight mod for fallout 3 as soon as it was available

Vapor Moon
Feb 24, 2010

Neato!
The Human Font

Well see you all in the Fallout 5 thread.

Flaky
Feb 14, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Cardboard Box posted:

weren't the ironsights in new vegas just cosmetic and functionally identical to the zoom that was already in fallout 3

Ironsights was supposed to be in Fallout 3 originally, but BI didn't finish it in time for release. The RH_Ironsights mod was substantially composed of cut content with some axis alignments for various weapons. Like in so many other areas, Bethesda is its own worst enemy.

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King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Dapper_Swindler posted:

loving this. It all feels like realy bad busy work and filler. I loved the boomers. But now i have to help some dipshit get his dick wet and run back and forth 15 times between the boomers and that other place with the girl. All the quests had so much dumb loving filler.

On my recent playthrough the girl got stuck on a loving wall on the way through the canyon pass, and I sat there like an idiot after fast-travelling to the hangars to wait for her. I saw her blip on the map but it never moved, so I went to investigate and she was just standing there facing a solid rock wall. I had to bump into her repeatedly to unstick her so she could proceed.

FillInTheBlank posted:

Well see you all in the Fallout 5 thread.

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