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Feather posted:Was he eating that cannibal style? Also I don't see a shake, which is something you should never miss when eating there. Even the small In N Out shakes are like 600+ calories. It's like a full meal all on its own. I always wonder how candidates don't just completely balloon on the trail with all the poo poo they have to eat. Is there a vomitorium bus?
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Gyges posted:How dare she not beg their attention like the others! A Show! A show is demanded, amuse the Iowans, make them feel important, lie to them like you mean it when you say you care deeply about corn and corn products. Why the great state of Iowa certainly isn't a shithole that will be ignored for the next 3 years for good reason. A place that fewer Americans can locate on the map than can properly locate Iran. A place whose only consequence is founded on a farcical effort to prove to everyone else that they totally matter. I always forget the hostility that everyone has towards the "flyover states" on these forums.
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bartlebyshop posted:Even the small In N Out shakes are like 600+ calories. It's like a full meal all on its own. I always wonder how candidates don't just completely balloon on the trail with all the poo poo they have to eat. Is there a vomitorium bus? Speed. funtax posted:Is it possible to craft a more boring two-word combo than "Romney PowerPoint"? Why would Romney want to be Secretary of State? Did he get bit by the international relations bug back when he was involved with the Salt Lake City Olympics?
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Jun 13, 2015 04:44
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Mr Hootington posted:I always forget the hostility that everyone has towards the "flyover states" on these forums. It's not hostility, they really are quite boring and irrelevant. Much like no one cares about say, Reading, PA
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Jun 13, 2015 04:45
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Nintendo Kid posted:It's not hostility, they really are quite boring and irrelevant. Who would ever care about flyover state politics, like listening to some dude from Illinois?
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Jun 13, 2015 04:50
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mlmp08 posted:Who would ever care about flyover state politics, like listening to some dude from Illinois? Obama didn't have anything to do with loving Carbondale.
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Jun 13, 2015 04:51
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mlmp08 posted:Who would ever care about flyover state politics, like listening to some dude from Illinois? If Iowa had any cities half as cool as Chicago, the coastal cities would care more.
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Jun 13, 2015 04:53
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Nintendo Kid posted:It's not hostility, they really are quite boring and irrelevant. Nah there is. There seems to be a tendency to marginalize anyone not living in Los Angeles, New York, or any of the cities over 450,000.
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I didn't RSVP in time for the Hillary event so I won't actually be attending. I live 2 stops away from Roosevelt Island though. It's gonna be hot as hell so I'm betting some of the NJ'ers and Long Islanders who RSVP'd won't show up, so I might as well go early and see if they'll let me take a no-show's place.
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Jun 13, 2015 04:54
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Mr Hootington posted:Nah there is. There seems to be a tendency to marginalize anyone not living in California, New York, or any of the cities over 450,000. People from nowheresville are naturally marginalized. You want people to pay attention to you, maybe have anything worth noticing?
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Jun 13, 2015 04:55
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Skwirl posted:Why would Romney want to be Secretary of State? Did he get bit by the international relations bug back when he was involved with the Salt Lake City Olympics? Lusts for power, no longer willing to debase himself by relying on filthy proles to give it to him democratically.
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Mr Hootington posted:Nah there is. There seems to be a tendency to marginalize anyone not living in Los Angeles, New York, or any of the cities over 450,000. It's not hostility, they just suck and gently caress you!
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Jun 13, 2015 04:59
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Mr Hootington posted:Nah there is. There seems to be a tendency to marginalize anyone not living in Los Angeles, New York, or any of the cities over 450,000. It's funnier when people try to marginalize Houston.
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Mr Hootington posted:Nah there is. There seems to be a tendency to marginalize anyone not living in Los Angeles, New York, or any of the cities over 450,000. There just aren't that many people in Iowa. Des Moines, your most populous city, has about 600,000 people in its metro area, while, say, Albany, Buffalo, Rochester, in NY, have more than a million each, and they're not really big metro areas by far. Take all three of them together and that's more people than your entire State. And that's not counting anybody in between, not to mention NYC's metro area. If it weren't for land basically being given extra votes due to the US's strange make-up, nobody would think twice about what Iowans want.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:There just aren't that many people in Iowa. Des Moines, your most populous city, has about 600,000 people in its metro area, while, say, Albany, Buffalo, Rochester, in NY, have more than a million each, and they're not really big metro areas by far. Take all three of them together and that's more people than your entire State. And that's not counting anybody in between, not to mention NYC's metro area. If it weren't for land basically being given extra votes due to the US's strange make-up, nobody would think twice about what Iowans want. Which is a pretty lovely attitude. People living in rural areas shouldn't get economically and environmentally hosed over for the benefit of people living in urban areas who are too ignorant or selfish to care. Everyone deserves a decent life and to be treated respectfully regardless of where they live. Supraluminal fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jun 13, 2015 |
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computer parts posted:It's funnier when people try to marginalize Houston. I've noticed a habit of people deciding the city smaller than theirs is when the city doesn't count for poo poo. If they live in a small city, tiny town, or a truly rural place, then big city folk aren't real Americans from Main Street USA. It doesn't help that the U.S. census says some absurd percent of people live in urban areas, but that includes towns of less than 3,000 people.
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Mr Hootington posted:Nah there is. There seems to be a tendency to marginalize anyone not living in Los Angeles, New York, or any of the cities over 450,000. I think some of the hostility is that many of the people in these states have disproportionate representation to those in cities in terms of Senate representation and campaign pandering. Then you have the gerrymandering within the states themselves which gives disproportionate weight to people in rural areas. Of course there is equally a lot of classist/elitist thinking that makes people poo poo all over people not living in cities on the coasts.
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Supraluminal posted:Which is a pretty lovely attitude. People living in rural areas shouldn't get economically and environmentally hosed over for the benefit of people living in urban areas who are to ignorant or selfish to care. Everyone deserves a decent life and to be treated respectfully regardless of where they live. Why should 3 million Iowans get more attention than 3 million Upstate New Yorkers, though? Iowa isn't the only rural area in the US, you know.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:There just aren't that many people in Iowa. Des Moines, your most populous city, has about 600,000 people in its metro area, while, say, Albany, Buffalo, Rochester, in NY, have more than a million each, and they're not really big metro areas by far. Take all three of them together and that's more people than your entire State. And that's not counting anybody in between, not to mention NYC's metro area. If it weren't for land basically being given extra votes due to the US's strange make-up, nobody would think twice about what Iowans want. Which is too bad. Then again I still haven't had all of my idealism beaten out of me. It is a difference I see in the parties to. Democrats gently caress you and want to help. Republicans are nice to you, but gently caress you when your back is turned. Then again I'm a white male so my picture of things are colored a bit differently. Neeksy posted:I think some of the hostility is that many of the people in these states have disproportionate representation to those in cities in terms of Senate representation and campaign pandering. Then you have the gerrymandering within the states themselves which gives disproportionate weight to people in rural areas. Both of these are true. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jun 13, 2015 |
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Skwirl posted:Why would Romney want to be Secretary of State? Did he get bit by the international relations bug back when he was involved with the Salt Lake City Olympics? he wants to run for president again. if he cleans up his weakest points (comes across as a zillionaire cyborg with lovely foreign policy ideas) by at least fixing the cyborg and foreign policy part with a good top of the resume position, he could swing a run again. like, he was a pretty meh candidate by all means, but if he had a good, fresh memory and loosened up a little, he could make a pretty solid run again imo
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Mr Hootington posted:Which is too bad. Then again I still haven't had all of my idealism beaten out of me. I'm personally happy that these circumstances mean you get to give us all of this interesting coverage of all the contenders, and thank you for doing that.
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Supraluminal posted:Which is a pretty lovely attitude. People living in rural areas shouldn't get economically and environmentally hosed over for the benefit of people living in urban areas who are to ignorant or selfish to care. Everyone deserves a decent life and to be treated respectfully regardless of where they live. What's the lovely attitude, again? How is it disrespectful to not go out of my way to think about wherever you happen to live right now? Also the urban areas aren't loving rural areas over, rural voting tends to gently caress themselves over. Last I checked I can't vote in Iowa due to the whole never living there thing, and I can only elect two senators and 1 representative in congress to change anything.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Why should 3 million Iowans get more attention than 3 million Upstate New Yorkers, though? Iowa isn't the only rural area in the US, you know. Funny you should say that! I live in upstate NY. They shouldn't get more attention. Everyone should get sufficient attention. You said: Absurd Alhazred posted:If it weren't for land basically being given extra votes due to the US's strange make-up, nobody would think twice about what Iowans want. Which is horseshit. People should think about what Iowans want, and about what people in upstate NY want, and what people in Atlanta want, and Santa Barbara, and North Dakota, and.... If all you're saying is that the primary calendar results in some weird-rear end distortions of American politics, I agree with you, but this discussion started getting a lot more general than that.
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While I suppose big city folk looking down on Iowa can be annoying, no one ever accuses resident's of the flyover states of not being "real Americans" as an applause line.
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Supraluminal posted:Funny you should say that! I live in upstate NY. Then I misspoke. I meant they shouldn't care what they think just because they happen to be Iowans and therefore their votes matter more than mine or yours.
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If no one should care what small groups without much political power want, maybe we should stop caring about the plight of minorities who are gerrymandered into irrelevance. 
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Skwirl posted:While I suppose big city folk looking down on Iowa can be annoying, no one ever accuses resident's of the flyover states of not being "real Americans" as an applause line. I've heard similar talk whenever someone displays a Confederate flag.
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Mr Hootington posted:I always forget the hostility that everyone has towards the "flyover states" on these forums.  And I live in one of those states. The population difference is something nobody loving gets until they see something like that. Iowa's not one of those shaded states but it isn't that far off. Shackling the country to the rear end-backwards proclivities of the Iowa GOP straw poll voters for a non-zero interval is similar to asking the loving Duggars for master courses on effective communication and conflict resolution.
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Nintendo Kid posted:What's the lovely attitude, again? How is it disrespectful to not go out of my way to think about wherever you happen to live right now? Uh huh. Tell that to the residents of the poorest counties of the Southern Tier of NY, which Governor Cuomo wanted to use as a fracking laboratory. Meanwhile the entire NYC watershed was completely off-limits. Because heaven forbid anything happen to the drinking water of a major city, but a few hundred thousand impoverished farmers and small-town yokels? gently caress it, let's see what happens.
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computer parts posted:I've heard similar talk whenever someone displays a Confederate flag. I've never heard that from someone running for political office on a national level.
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mlmp08 posted:If no one should care what small groups without much political power want, maybe we should stop caring about the plight of minorities who are gerrymandered into irrelevance. You mean small groups with disproportionately large political power, right?
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Supraluminal posted:Uh huh. Tell that to the residents of the poorest counties of the Southern Tier of NY, which Governor Cuomo wanted to use as a fracking laboratory. Meanwhile the entire NYC watershed was completely off-limits. Because heaven forbid anything happen to the drinking water of a major city, but a few hundred thousand impoverished farmers and small-town yokels? gently caress it, let's see what happens. Great, so how does voting in the suburbs of Boston change fracking rules in rust belt New York? Cuz you know, that's where I live. Also the NYC watershed is owned by the city of New York due to planning ahead about 150 years, and obviously the city of New York is not going to sell fracking rights there. This had nothing to do with voting.
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Nintendo Kid posted:What's the lovely attitude, again? How is it disrespectful to not go out of my way to think about wherever you happen to live right now? It is a lovely attitude if you proclaim you believe in a set of ideals which goals are to help everyone and make everyone equal. It is only disrespectful if someone brings up something about there area and you go out of your way to say "Who cares? gently caress off!" Urban and rural gently caress each other over all the time. Bakken oil pipeline and nitrates in water upstream of bigger cities are two issues I can point to in my state of this.
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Supraluminal posted:Uh huh. Tell that to the residents of the poorest counties of the Southern Tier of NY, which Governor Cuomo wanted to use as a fracking laboratory. Meanwhile the entire NYC watershed was completely off-limits. Because heaven forbid anything happen to the drinking water of a major city, but a few hundred thousand impoverished farmers and small-town yokels? gently caress it, let's see what happens. How many of those impoverished farmers and small town yokels expressed opposition to fracking?
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Skwirl posted:I've never heard that from someone running for political office on a national level. http://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/23/us/daughter-of-slavery-hushes-senate.html
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Regardless of the population difference. This is a nation that was supposed to be built on the ideal that everyone has a voice.
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BristolSOF posted:Lindsey Graham sat down with Katie Couric of Yahoo News, and said something that I (and probably all of you) agree with - which is pretty shocking Ha! He does this. He says something cool and gets a nod, but follows it up with something super lovely.
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Mr Hootington posted:It is a lovely attitude if you proclaim you believe in a set of ideals which goals are to help everyone and make everyone equal. It is only disrespectful if someone brings up something about there area and you go out of your way to say "Who cares? gently caress off!" Wanting everyone to be better served by the government does not require that I care what the people of say Topeka have to say about things. Mr Hootington posted:Regardless of the population difference. This is a nation that was supposed to be built on the ideal that everyone has a voice. And you do! But having a voice doesn't mean that the other 310 million people have to care.
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Supraluminal posted:Uh huh. Tell that to the residents of the poorest counties of the Southern Tier of NY, which Governor Cuomo wanted to use as a fracking laboratory. Meanwhile the entire NYC watershed was completely off-limits. Because heaven forbid anything happen to the drinking water of a major city, but a few hundred thousand impoverished farmers and small-town yokels? gently caress it, let's see what happens. Counterpoint: Cuomo is a fuckhead. He'd screw NYC into the ground if he could figure a way to make it benefit him. It's not a terribly good example because Christ, what an rear end in a top hat. (I still agree with you, Upstate solidarity.)
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