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hemale in pain posted:Naw, I think it's like 100% certain he cut the guys brakes. That's why he wanted to go to a van crash rather than the other crime. I'd also guess he didn't murder the security guard for a watch. I think he actually did kill the guy. He saw Lou's face very clearly and if he was allowed to live he could have reported the theft. Lou tried to talk himself out of the situation because that would be the least risky play, but failing that I think he would have had no hesitation in killing that guy. The watch was just a bonus.
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As for the person asking about good thrillers, who I directed to a monkey documentary narrated by Liam Neeson, I want to go right ahead and back up the previous suggestion of Blue Ruin. That film is fantastic, and as an aspiring filmmaker, what the writer/director/cinematographer and his cast and crew were able to pull off with what little they had is nothing at all short of impressive. I wound up ordering the DVD after the fifth or so time I watched it on Netflix. I could seriously go on for days about that movie. About Nightcrawler: I don't think there's supposed to be any doubt that Bloom tampered with Paxton's van to cause the trouble that killed him. It not only showed the tampering in a scene or three earlier, but it also makes such a big point to have the aforementioned eye-contact when Paxton's dude is getting wheeled into the ambulance. I'm personally in the 'brake-cutting' camp, myself. As for the security guard, I think it's intentionally ambiguous and that we're supposed to be uncertain as to what exactly he did to the guy. I personally think that, despite the violence sort of suggested by the cinematic language used, it's more likely that Bloom did something to persuade the guard, just because that seems more in line with his character than to physically harm him. Again, I think it remains a bit of a mystery for a reason, but if that theory is correct, it suggests (very accurately) that the real danger in Lou Bloom is his ability to manipulate others and be a sort of social chameleon. It would also be letting the audience in on the film's ultimate conclusion in a way subtle enough to not detract from the following narrative, but rather add to it in a way that will likely go unnoticed until said viewer has finished the movie. Terra-da-loo! fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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Jun 11, 2015 20:22
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Just noticed The Art of the Steal is on Netflix. Really fun caper movie with Kurt Russell, Jay Baruchel, Matt Dillon. Totally worth your time.
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I think about the only thing I disliked with Nightcrawler is the soundtrack. I'm pretty sure the dissonance between the uplifting and exciting score and the horror on screen was intentional, but I didn't really like the effect, and the music itself left something to be desired in a lot of places.
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Zombie Raptor posted:As for the person asking about good thrillers, who I directed to a monkey documentary narrated by Liam Neeson, I want to go right ahead and back up the previous suggestion of Blue Ruin. That film is fantastic, and as an aspiring filmmaker, what the writer/director/cinematographer and his cast and crew were able to pull off with what little they had is nothing at all short of impressive. I wound up ordering the DVD after the fifth or so time I watched it on Netflix. I could seriously go on for days about that movie. except lou attacks the guard just before the cut
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Dred Cosmonaut posted:except lou attacks the guard just before the cut Fair enough. I guess that slipped my memory, but now that you mention it that seems right. Or maybe you're using my lack of clear recollection to manipulate me into agreeing with you. As for the score in Nightcrawler, quoting from IMDb, here: "The music cues in the movie represent the music cues in Lou's head." With that in mind, it makes sense to me that the music cues and the nature of the film's reality seem somewhat alien to one another.
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Zombie Raptor posted:
And now I have a little game to play when I rewatch this now that it's on Netflix.
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:I think about the only thing I disliked with Nightcrawler is the soundtrack. I'm pretty sure the dissonance between the uplifting and exciting score and the horror on screen was intentional, but I didn't really like the effect, and the music itself left something to be desired in a lot of places. I've been rewatching Michael Mann movies (Thief and Manhunter are on Netflix) and the score reminded me of them, in a good way.
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Jun 11, 2015 21:26
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precision posted:Just noticed The Art of the Steal is on Netflix. Really fun caper movie with Kurt Russell, Jay Baruchel, Matt Dillon. Totally worth your time. Seconding. Also has Terence Stamp and Jason Jones as anti-buddy cops.
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Jun 11, 2015 22:45
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Zombie Raptor posted:I don't think there's supposed to be any doubt that Bloom tampered with Paxton's van to cause the trouble that killed him. Wait there are actually people who think otherwise?
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Jun 11, 2015 22:51
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Not to interrupt the Nightcrawler chat but I just finished Agents of Shield after marathoning Daredevil and I was wondering if there's anything else fun to watch in Netflix along those lines. How's The 100?
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gmq posted:Not to interrupt the Nightcrawler chat but I just finished Agents of Shield after marathoning Daredevil and I was wondering if there's anything else fun to watch in Netflix along those lines. Alias?
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Jose Oquendo posted:Wait there are actually people who think otherwise? I absolutely think he did it, the point I was trying to make in my initial post was that the movie doesn't hold your hand, it lets you figure it out for yourself. When you add it all together its pretty obvious what happened though.
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Loki_XLII posted:Sounds like it'd make a good double feature with Nightcrawler . Or Snowpiercer. It'd be a great pairing with Snowpiercer. As I'm sure most of you who are adventurous enough to watch it will observe, the orgy scene is clearly a commentary on the disgustingly fascist nature of monogamy. While Snowpiercer struggled to demonstrate the evils of Capitalism - which the director clearly believes should be replaced with some form of socialism - Blue Summer embraces the beauty inherent in true carnal liberty, a sexual form of socialism if you will. They have cast aside Society's abhorrent adherence to modesty and a fixed sexual identity, instead embracing that most wonderful of maxims those enlightened beings live by: "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need". They are capable of giving, and thus they receive. What matters is that they are all youthful, beautiful, and alive, and they express that with no regard for modesty or modern tastes, but to meet beauty with beauty, creating a lasting legacy in art. As Marx said, "Nature does not produce on the one side husbands, and on the other wives. This relation has no natural basis, neither is its social basis one that is common to all historical periods." Really, I don't know how OP could miss something as blatant as that unless they were just dismissing the piece as "porn" and refusing to engage with it on the intellectual level it requires. I mean it is one thing to watch it for the smut, but to so violently deny it's integrity as a work of intellectual art is assuredly obscene.
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gmq posted:Not to interrupt the Nightcrawler chat but I just finished Agents of Shield after marathoning Daredevil and I was wondering if there's anything else fun to watch in Netflix along those lines. How's The 100? The 100 is good. It starts out really angsty and a little annoying but if you stick with it it gets a lot better (the latter half of the first season and certainly the second). The second season is on Canadian Netflix.
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Jun 12, 2015 00:24
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Zombie Raptor posted:Gyllenhaal's been growing a lot on me. I never really disliked the guy or his performances, but I think Nightcrawler, especially, showcases what an actor he is. And yeah, I'd agree that his choices of roles are changing up. If nothing else, it's far less spotty. These days I have to strain to remind myself Prince of Persia even happened (and it is never worth the effort). I was on board with Gyllenhaal from the first movie I saw him in, but that was Bubble Boy and I was a horny adolescent with a social awkwardness fetish.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Seconding. Also has Terence Stamp and Jason Jones as anti-buddy cops. I read that as Terence Stamp and January Jones as anti-buddy cops. I was like how did I miss that.
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Jun 12, 2015 01:14
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Adding to the Nightcrawler white noise here, but whoo boy was it a great film all around. Lou is a TRUE Randian superman.
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Jun 12, 2015 01:24
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gently caress the haters, I'm in love with Sense8. It's big, goofy, confused and fun, and it just keeps getting better. e: sorry, h8ers.
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Jun 12, 2015 02:55
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Looks like the new season of Orange is the New Black dropped a few hours earlier than scheduled.
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User-Friendly posted:Looks like the new season of Orange is the New Black dropped a few hours earlier than scheduled. "Out on early release" is the tagline they were using last night when I saw it available.
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Jun 12, 2015 19:40
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Amazon Prime has a lot of obscure sci-fi B-movies, but I wish they weren't all poor quality 4:3 pan-and-scan transfers for TV/video.
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Jun 13, 2015 14:41
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Noah is significantly weirder than I was expecting.
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Is Parallels any good? I love multiverse stories, but I have no idea about the movie.
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The_Rob posted:Is Parallels any good? I love multiverse stories, but I have no idea about the movie. It was gonna be a TV series, the movie is a big pilot, and it shows. Then again it's not like awful.
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The_Rob posted:Is Parallels any good? I love multiverse stories, but I have no idea about the movie. I literally just watched it, heh. It's nothing special, but it's alright. Perfectly watchable, and if you like this stuff you'll probably like (some of) it. Does feel very much like a TV pilot though, and I think it will work better in TV form if they do end up making it. Constance Wu's good (and holy poo poo she looks so much younger than in Fresh Off the Boat). It has the dude who stole a monkey on Veronica Mars once.  (He's not so good, but whatever.)
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morestuff posted:Noah is significantly weirder than I was expecting.
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One of my favorite movies, Primer, is back on Netflix. Great low-budget time travel movie.
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Triple Helix posted:One of my favorite movies, Primer, is back on Netflix. While enjoying the movie on a first watch is almost unrelated to understanding what's going on at any given moment, for anyone who's already seen Primer I found this breakdown of the timeline very cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntxa9x45gs0
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For those of you who (like me) like cop shows but scrolled right past Happy Valley because it looked superficially like a show about an depressed British meter maid, you're going to want to go back and give it another chance. Excellent show, a lot darker and more violent than the blurb makes it seem, and well worth a watch. I encourage anyone who even tolerates the genre to give it a watch, at six hours total its far from a huge commitment. On the topic of Primer--am I the only person who found that not having a clue what was going on in the latter third of the film actually made it more enjoyable? It's time travel, the confusion is part of the fun!
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Nah I don't think you're supposed to understand the last third in terms of comprehension of time travel mechanics or whatever
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prussian advisor posted:On the topic of Primer--am I the only person who found that not having a clue what was going on in the latter third of the film actually made it more enjoyable? It's time travel, the confusion is part of the fun! It would be almost impossible to understand exactly what the heck was going on in that third act, so I wouldn't be worried. Looking on google, there seems to be about 9 independent timelines going on by the time the film wraps up.
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morestuff posted:Noah is significantly weirder than I was expecting. I found it less weird than expected but only because CineD hyped up the weirdness for me.
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Speaking of Primer I rewatched Upstream Color again today and it was even better than the first time, and also I was amazed that anyone was remotely confused about exactly what was going on. It spells things out with almost zero ambiguity, or at least the first hour/basic premise of it.
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Been mentioned before but if you don't watch Troll 2 now that it's out on Netflix, you are seriously cheating yourself. So many quotable lines. The plot doesn't even matter, it's terrible and so good it's bananas at the same time.
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precision posted:Speaking of Primer I rewatched Upstream Color again today and it was even better than the first time, and also I was amazed that anyone was remotely confused about exactly what was going on. It spells things out with almost zero ambiguity, or at least the first hour/basic premise of it. People love saying things like this. So what was it about?
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forever whatever posted:Been mentioned before but if you don't watch Troll 2 now that it's out on Netflix, you are seriously cheating yourself. So many quotable lines. The plot doesn't even matter, it's terrible and so good it's bananas at the same time. It was only when I watched it again a few nights ago that I realized all of the emphasis on eating and being forced to eat and being deprived of food was probably somebody's fetish that made it into the script. Also, I really have to find the movie that's playing on the tv in the mobile home.
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Yaws posted:People love saying things like this. The director has actually given a pretty direct and plainspoken description of it. Shane Carruth is interesting because he's not really interested in ambiguity or obfuscation. He wants you to pay close attention to his movies, but he also wants them to be clear and fully understood.
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Yaws posted:People love saying things like this. Worms.
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