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the original iphone was simply poo poo tbqh
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it didnt get good until the 4. maybe 3gs, whenever they stopped the plastic cracking up.
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Jun 14, 2015 18:53
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the lack of 3g in the original was unforgivable tbh
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Jun 14, 2015 18:55
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the battery on the iPhone OG lasted for-fukken-ever, tho
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Jun 15, 2015 03:17
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minivanmegafun posted:the battery on the iPhone OG lasted for-fukken-ever, tho pretty easy when it did nothing and was unusable on cell data so you had to use it on lower power drain wifi
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Jun 15, 2015 03:19
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yeah p. much
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Jun 15, 2015 03:20
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qirex posted:I had a Nokia e71 and it was a good phone used a Nokia e71 for testing roaming networks it owned and was basically as close to fuckin spec as you could get. nokia also makes (made??) really solid cell network poo poo but huawei probably has crushed them into he ground by now
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Jun 15, 2015 09:23
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qirex posted:I had a Nokia e71 and it was a good phone the iphone was pretty lovely until the 3GS and IOS 3 E:F;B
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Jun 15, 2015 12:31
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ahmeni posted:nokia also makes (made??) really solid cell network poo poo but huawei probably has crushed them into he ground by now they still do, and they're about to buy alcatel-lucent lol
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Jun 16, 2015 09:06
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mishaq posted:they still do, and they're about to buy alcatel-lucent lol lol those poor bastards have no idea what they're buying into
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Jun 16, 2015 13:18
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Nintendo Kid posted:the original iphone was simply poo poo tbqh the original iphone was an incredibly cool tech demo i have nfc why they thought they could make it a product
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Jun 28, 2015 18:46
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The Kins posted:reuters is reporting that blackberry is rumored to be considering throwing its metaphorical hands up, going "gently caress it" and just flat-out releasing an android so i can definitely imagine a world where BB builds a business on managing android/ios devices. that's a pretty crowded market, but BB already has a lot of advantages over the incumbents. what i don't get at all is why they would want to continue to make hardware.
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Jun 28, 2015 18:47
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how the gently caress can blackberry still afford to sponsor mercedes f1
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Jun 28, 2015 20:19
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is everybody itt reading Sean Silcoff's book? I got it for my dad, pro-tier father's day present follow-up, is it good?
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Jun 28, 2015 20:47
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read it (or at least read the second half), found it frustrating with its lack of analysis as to why rim kept making wrong moves. too busy getting in all the stuff the laserdilz and sillyballs told him (which was valuable and im glad he got those guys on the record for posterity) to really try and form an explanation as to why rim fell apart the way it did a couple things i noticed - holy shitballs was the storm a disaster, and entirely because laserdilz insisted that no one likes typing on plain flat glass - their os was a disaster that was a decade old when the iphone started to bite and a complete mash of spaghetti java code. apparently there was no long term roadmap or plan for the os other than adding new features to it every year. id liken it to apple pushing macos7 out there to face win3 and win95 and win 98 except apple at least was trying internally to improve the os (copland, pink, taligent, etc). nobody at rim considered moving off of java or maybe rearchitecting some things or planning for the day that someone might want more than once device bound to a single user id until it was far too late. just a spectacular lack of technical foresight - given a last chance to impress verizon with a 4g phone laserdilz goes into their big yearly meeting and lectures them about how 4g is dumb and unnecessary and really theyre idiots if they build out 4g towers and no we dont have any 4g phones to show you didnt i just get done explaining how dumb 4g was? note that this was after sticking verizon with the storm and storm 2 and with iphone and android devouring rims marketshare - all those marketing things we made fun of in yospos (amateur hour is over, you should have waited, etc) were even more catastrophic behind the scenes - pretty much everything you could imagine going wrong with an enterprise company pivoting to sell to consumers happened - man who could have guessed that having a split corporate governance with two ceos would prove unworkable in the long run? it worked fine when rim was soaring, but when they hit a rough patch it turned into a total nightmare. over and over rim would bring in top dollar talent to fix things only to have them float in limbo and then quit because their authority was unclear and they werent sure who they were ultimately responsible to - the contrast to jobs second tenure at apple was really striking a solid read but very much as a long magazine article or "first draft of history" thing
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Jun 28, 2015 21:15
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FMguru posted:read it (or at least read the second half), found it frustrating with its lack of analysis as to why rim kept making wrong moves. too busy getting in all the stuff the laserdilz and sillyballs told him (which was valuable and im glad he got those guys on the record for posterity) to really try and form an explanation as to why rim fell apart the way it did in my work at an e-waste recycler, I've seen dozens upon dozens of Storms, and every single one had a broken screen click mechanism
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Jun 28, 2015 22:12
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FMguru posted:- all those marketing things we made fun of in yospos (amateur hour is over, you should have waited, etc) were even more catastrophic behind the scenes lol, good
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Jun 29, 2015 00:05
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graph posted:lol, good sillyballs did spend an entire day wandering around dublin with bono coming up with slogans like "blackberry loves u2" so that was something
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Jun 29, 2015 01:02
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I need to read this
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Jun 29, 2015 01:23
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playbook was also a poo poo name for something that they then turned around and tried to pitch as being for serious work
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Jun 29, 2015 01:35
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Thanks Ants posted:playbook was also a poo poo name for something that they then turned around and tried to pitch as being for serious work no u see a  "Playbook" is a book of attack and defense strategies used by coaches in America™'s  most serious business of professional sports that is football  where you have to give 110% cause This Ain't No Game™ and professional American businessmen are going to flock to it as they see themselves as the playmakers leading their teams to success in the Free Market™ with Tools Not Toys™
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Jun 29, 2015 03:58
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no it was generally okay as a concept, a thing you keep all your business plans in for your endless middle management meetings, it was just a turd of a product
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Jun 29, 2015 04:01
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1024x600 for $500 in tyool 2011 
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Jun 29, 2015 04:07
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couldn't use email without a rim phone 
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Jun 29, 2015 04:09
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Mister Macys posted:no u see a remember the press conference where rim announced anger bird for playbook. lmao Mister Macys posted:couldn't use email without a rim phone deep, deep in rim's infrastructure is a hardcoded 1-1 sql relationship and no one will ever be able to fix it without burning everything down
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Jun 29, 2015 04:13
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Mister Macys posted:1024x600 for $500 in tyool 2011 dual cores
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Jun 29, 2015 04:18
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the same one they stuck in their Z10 & Q10 two and a half years later
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Jun 29, 2015 05:19
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Mister Macys posted:1024x600 for $500 in tyool 2011 but it had FLASH! aaaaaaaahhh
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Jun 29, 2015 07:19
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eric posted:but it had FLASH! aaaaaaaahhh which led to my favorite sentence in the book: quote:Soon after PlayBook launched, Adobe would drop support for AIR on mobile altogether.
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Jun 29, 2015 07:30
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Nintendo Kid posted:the lack of 3g in the original was unforgivable tbh there was no way for the att's network to handle the amount of users if the original iphone had 3g, even when 2008/2009 rolled around it was still common to see that you have full 5 bars of 3g but nothing getting through at all funny thing was that unlike verizon's 1x/evdo-3g, data and voice separation, 3g = data and voice on att's network and the amount of iphone users with 3g/3gs clogged att's data network and simultaneously nuked att's voice/text network too
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Jun 29, 2015 08:21
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FMguru posted:- all those marketing things we made fun of in yospos (amateur hour is over, you should have waited, etc) were even more catastrophic behind the scenes *you should of waited
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Jun 29, 2015 10:38
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DaNzA posted:nah it actually delegated the bandwidth between devices naturally without any sort of artificial throttle i am quite sure that the absolutely miniscule amount of original iphones sold would not overload the network. Mister Macys posted:1024x600 for $500 in tyool 2011 but the 2011 ipad (ipad 2) also had 1024x768?? there wasn't a ~retina~ ipad til 2012 1024x600 on a much smaller screen (7 inch vs 9.7 inch) was one of the few things the playbook was not hosed up in.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:07
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Nintendo Kid posted:but the 2011 ipad (ipad 2) also had 1024x768?? there wasn't a ~retina~ ipad til 2012 I think Apple's much better text rendering probably made a difference in how those screens were perceived too.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:25
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Subjunctive posted:I think Apple's much better text rendering probably made a difference in how those screens were perceived too. no, the playbook's text looked great too, in no small part then because the ppi was a lot higher. just again, there was no reason to be looking at text on it because it was so useless, though.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:28
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~Coxy posted:*you should of waited that was photoshopped 
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Jun 29, 2015 18:29
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Nintendo Kid posted:no, the playbook's text looked great too, in no small part then because the ppi was a lot higher. just again, there was no reason to be looking at text on it because it was so useless, though. I remember commenting that text looked weird on the Playbook, but I don't remember the details. I wasn't an iPad user at the time, though, so it's not much of a comparison.
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Jun 29, 2015 19:11
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Nintendo Kid posted:i am quite sure that the absolutely miniscule amount of original iphones sold would not overload the network. $500 for a smaller screen, shittier spec, and a joke of an OS it's not like it was a Sarnsung and could cash in on its rep
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Jun 30, 2015 01:29
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i never got to read the text on the playbook because of the two that came to our demo lab at telus for their debut one was completely defunct out of the box (the fun thing where the batteries decharged 100% at the warehouse) and the other required a massive update out of the box to even be functional and took way longer than the few hours they had setup for someone from blackberry to do the tour so they just showed videos of it on their laptop something similar happened too with the storm launch party where the actual storm data connections didnt work at all and the ceo cracked a fit when the phone that would ~*propel them into the future*~ because we were still on cdma without the iphone was a complete piss
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Jun 30, 2015 01:34
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ahmeni posted:(the fun thing where the batteries decharged 100% at the warehouse) lmao i forgot remember when a forums poster wrote a joke conversion app and rim did zero vetting and sent them a playbook anyway
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graph posted:lmao i forgot
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