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 Use this for commuting and hiking, it's excellent. Toggles for strapping things in, it's waterproof, incredibly comfortable, and has two clips at above-nipple and bellybutton height for keeping the weight distributed. Has an easy access zipper at the top, and can take bladders in case drinking out of a dirty hose is your thing. Its also just about smaller than my back, so it doesn't stick out over the shoulders. Oh, and it's designed for caryring skis; it actually has a metal ring that pops out at the bottom and similar at the top (in case you want to lug 20kgs of sharp apline stick with you), and it's double or triple stitched everywhere so it doesn't split even heavily loaded.
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Help! I want to upgrade my gear (jacket + pants) with armoured inserts, rather than continuing to use the foam stuff it came with. Are there brands I should be looking for?
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Pfox posted:Help! I want to upgrade my gear (jacket + pants) with armoured inserts, rather than continuing to use the foam stuff it came with. Are there brands I should be looking for? Not a brand, but CE certified stuff.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:36
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builds character posted:Not a brand, but CE certified stuff. You actually want CE Approved. Certified just means they sent it to a facility and it may have passed some of the tests involved.
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builds character posted:Not a brand, but CE certified stuff. M. Night Skymall posted:You actually want CE Approved. Certified just means they sent it to a facility and it may have passed some of the tests involved. This is super helpful, thanks very much!
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Jun 15, 2015 21:43
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Pfox posted:Help! I want to upgrade my gear (jacket + pants) with armoured inserts, rather than continuing to use the foam stuff it came with. Are there brands I should be looking for? Knox and Forcefield are two decent makes from Britain.
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I'm a big fan of d3o inserts. I use both klim and rukka in my different gear after what size the armor pockets was. D30 is also safe to trim with scissors if they're a bit big(Rukka inserts are enormus) Rukka vs klim shoulderpad:  Rst Jacket with rukka shoulder pads and klim viper t5 pro back protector 
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Jun 16, 2015 00:02
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What about a chest guard? Important too?
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Jun 16, 2015 04:19
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The problem with this and everything that's not motorcycle specific like a Kriega is that they are impossible to get the pack on and off when wearing a motorcycle jacket with armour in the shoulders. Of course if you're squiddly-diddly-doing it up and not wearing armour, then a quality backpack is the least of your problems.
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Jun 16, 2015 05:16
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Yeah I have a camelback and it is in fact /not/ impossible to get on. In general I try to strap it to the tail if I'm riding with it because that is more comfortable but I've ridden with it and it's fine...
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Jun 16, 2015 05:29
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Pfox posted:What about a chest guard? Important too? Not unless you are riding dirt really aggressively and or dirt race tracks, ie anything with jumping. For normal light offroading on a dual-sport/adventure bike it's not needed.
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Jun 16, 2015 08:58
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Is a mesh jacket going to make a noticeable difference from perforated leather? I'm doing a lot of city driving in DC humidity and as much as I try to stay moving it's getting uncomfortable.
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Jun 16, 2015 13:58
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Yes, I can't imagine riding around here in anything but mesh. Leather, even perforated, sounds absolutely suffocating. I've got an extra Joe Rocket mesh jacket you could try if you want. It's pretty old and doesn't really provide any abrasion protection, but could give you an idea of wat mesh feels like.
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Jun 16, 2015 14:17
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Mesh is very cool when you're moving. I'm comfortable riding in the summer days, but when the sun goes down I have to put a sweatshirt on underneath. never had perforated leather before.
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Jun 16, 2015 14:19
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I live in the same area, struggled with perf leather for a few weeks before buying revit tornado+airwave stuff. I mean, I'm still sweaty as hell, but it's an improvement. Wicking underarmour stuff helps too. And a camelbak.
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Jun 16, 2015 14:37
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Supradog posted:I'm a big fan of d3o inserts. I use both klim and rukka in my different gear after what size the armor pockets was. D30 is also safe to trim with scissors if they're a bit big(Rukka inserts are enormus) Seconding d3o - I've got their shoulder, elbow, back, and hip protecters and they're cheap and CE approved. Or certified. Not sure which, don't really care as it's likely the same situation as DOT helmets (not tested by a regulatory agency and yet still very protective).
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Jun 16, 2015 14:51
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I wear perf leather year round. 
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Jun 16, 2015 15:45
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You live in the bay area. I don't think your experience applies to well to places with real weather.
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Chichevache posted:I wear perf leather year round. It's 11 am and the heat index here is already 102.
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Jun 16, 2015 16:12
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I have perf leather and 85+ it's unbearable if you're sitting still.
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Koruthaiolos posted:You live in the bay area. I don't think your experience applies to well to places with real weather. I do not live in the Bay Area, though I finally get to go home in a month or two! At the moment I'm on the border of this. At least it's a dry heat.  MoraleHazard posted:I have perf leather and 85+ it's unbearable if you're sitting still. If. Chichevache fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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HotCanadianChick posted:The problem with this and everything that's not motorcycle specific like a Kriega is that they are impossible to get the pack on and off when wearing a motorcycle jacket with armour in the shoulders. I actually have in-built armour, and dont have that problem. The straps are wide and pretty smooth and rigid, they don't tend to get hooked.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:02
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Leather, not perforated, was 93 here yesterday. Survived just fine. Suck it up wimps 
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Jun 16, 2015 19:07
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Alright it seems like a new jacket might be worth it then. I think if I had a highway commute it would be bearable but downtown you can only do so much to stay moving.
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Chichevache posted:I do not live in the Bay Area, though I finally get to go home in a month or two! At the moment I'm on the border of this. At least it's a dry heat. Ask me about riding down the micro-"shoulder" of the Baltimore-Washington Parkway in 95 degree heat in perfed leather in stopped traffic. I don't mind sucking it up for a while, but air cooled bike + air cooled rider and it was lane-splitting time. Digital_Jesus posted:Leather, not perforated, was 93 here yesterday. Survived just fine. Suck it up wimps Above 30 mph or so, I don't think perfed vs. vented leather makes much difference as long as the vents are well placed. In stop and go traffice, rolling along at 15 mph, there's a noticeable difference. I guess getting a bit older, I have less tolerance riding in leathers in that kind of heat if I don't have too. I do my fun riding in the early morning before it warms up. I just suck it up for commuting to work.
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MoraleHazard posted:Ask me about riding down the micro-"shoulder" of the Baltimore-Washington Parkway in 95 degree heat in perfed leather in stopped traffic. I don't mind sucking it up for a while, but air cooled bike + air cooled rider and it was lane-splitting time. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeLa72oSf3c Or you could just plug a bunch of perforated hoses/wire tidies into a fan box and coil them around your body (one of the first image results for "personal cooling unit". Patent pending!) e/ I'm sure I've seen the thermoelectric concept built into a professional little collar that hits your jugular/carotid, but I can't find it for the life of me. Maybe I imagined it? Probably wouldn't be crash safe anyhow. Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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What worked for me last summer (~100F) was a wool (or cotton) bandanna soaked in water around my neck. It's not high tech, but the evaporation does help cool you off some, and it's cheap and easy to deal with. Some of the jacket manufactureres make cooling vests, too, which is basically the same thing, but cut to fit in/on/around your existing jacket. I haven't tried one, though, so I don't know how they work.
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Jun 17, 2015 00:15
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I soak my entire shirt in water, works very well when moving.
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Being from CA, stories involving actually being stopped along with stopped traffic are alien and horrifying.
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I own a dad accessory called a CoolDanna It helps me look fabulous and keep my cool.
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tirinal posted:stories involving actually being stopped along with stopped traffic are alien and horrifying. Yeah, I've only had to do it half a dozen times and now I avoid those streets entirely.
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The day I have to seriously consider mesh is when my home is a few feet underwater, making that choice moot. Thank you, moderate marine climate and gently caress you, global warming.  I do have a hyperkewl vest though, and it really helps on the one hot day a year.
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MoraleHazard posted:I have perf leather and 85+ it's unbearable if you're sitting still. I have a white perforated leather and it'd not completely horrible, but it is hot.
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M42 posted:I soak my entire shirt in water, works very well when moving. I can't tell if you're being serious or sardonically referring to sweating.
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Mr. Crow posted:I need a backpack and/or tankbag for my Ninja 650, any recommendations? The GR1 is a tank. I swam in the ocean dragging mine with me for three days in a row for one of their events and it's still in perfect shape. I haven't been down with it, but I put that bag through a lot of abuse regularly and it's still in amazing shape after 2 years. It is however really no frills so if you need some compartments or something you might want to buy some kind of organizer or something.
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How much do stiffer collars on jackets break in? I got an air frazer and absolutely love the style and the amount/placement of vents combined with more actual protection than a lot of mesh jackets; but the collar chaffes the heck out of my neck.
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I think it depends on how it's sewn, what it's made of, and whether it's got interfacing in it to keep it stiff. Mine usually start out stiff, then as I wear them/they get wet in the rain/they get washed they soften up slightly. I don't know that particular jacket, so it's hard to say. You might try getting it wet and crumpling it slightly to see if it loosens up a bit.
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So basically I have an anomalous weirdo head and the only helmets on the market that fit are scorpions (and I really don't like the latest models). Intermediate oval cranium shape, really narrow jawbone - so anything that fits my head completely fails the chin up/down test. gently caress  Actually the scorpion I'm testing right now fails that test too, if I try. Fuuuuuuuuuck
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M42 posted:So basically I have an anomalous weirdo head and the only helmets on the market that fit are scorpions (and I really don't like the latest models). Intermediate oval cranium shape, really narrow jawbone - so anything that fits my head completely fails the chin up/down test. gently caress If you're planning on crashing you shouldn't get on the bike. If you're not planning on crashing, what do you need a helmet for? Ride free, feel the wind in your hair and the bugs in your teeth like God intended. 
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