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I was homeschooled from grades 4-7 and holy poo poo did it destroy my social skills. I spent the next 4 years having some tough realizations and humiliating moments relearning them. That was even with having other homeschooled kids for friends, I wasn't a total shut in.
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SyHopeful posted:I was homeschooled from grades 4-7 and holy poo poo did it destroy my social skills. I spent the next 4 years having some tough realizations and humiliating moments relearning them. That was even with having other homeschooled kids for friends, I wasn't a total shut in. Yes, but is your father a genius who didn't need school and your mother a nebulous 'educator'?
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Jun 12, 2015 05:58
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Caros posted:Yes, but is your father a genius who didn't need school and your mother a nebulous 'educator'? He fancied me a genius and him more capable of molding my young brain into something great. I don't know, I was still youngish and a lot of it is told to me by my older sister as she remembers it. I do remember a desire to go back to public school and made the decision myself. To his credit he allowed it. My mom was an RN so she is no dummy, and we did use a by mail curriculum from Calvert School in Maryland. So not even as bad as what ElConcern seems to be hinting at. I still wish I hadn't.
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Jun 12, 2015 06:04
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Well duh, those first 3 grades in public school brainwashed you into thinking you needed "friends" and "a real education", so of course homeschooling can't repair that damage. Your dad should have kept you at home all those years until you figured out for yourself what you wanted to do.
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Jun 12, 2015 06:57
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This is amazing. I really need to go back and read every pages of this thread.
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Jun 12, 2015 07:03
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Caros posted:If you arent phone posting just do a search through my post history for the word amalgam and you'll find it. It's beautiful. Nolanar posted:Here you go. I left in that last bit to remind everyone that this was a derail off of Jrod being totally-not-an-antivaxxer-but-it-really-makes-you-think-doesn't-it. Thanks, I found and read through this glorious bit of jroding. The best part is that it clearly illustrates the dangers of Libertarian anti-regulation policy. A grifter dentist sold Jrod an expensive, unnecessary surgery by scaring the poo poo out of him, with false claims about mercury poisoning. In fact, the surgery itself was much more damaging in terms of mercury poisoning than not doing the surgery. This all happened even though research on this topic is widely available, and medical opinions are essentially in total agreement. Jrod could easily have looked into this, determined that he was being sold a load of quackery, and avoided unneccessary surgery. Instead, he got his teeth drilled for no reason, exposed himself to mercury poisoning, and paid $4k for the pleasure. Imagine this scenario playing out constantly. It already does in several markets, like nutritional supplements, which are known to be 90% quackery, and yet still do billions in business every year. If we had the same level of regulation in food safety, car safety, medical devices, and manufacturing, we wouldn't see Market Forces eliminating the quacks and the dangerous products. There are enough fool-rear end people in the world, like Jrod and ElCondemn's unschooled future kid, who will buy lead-based tiger repellant, pro-mercury (the good kind of mercury your body needs) tablets, coal rolling cars, dead cows fed intravenously to living cows, etc., and keep those markets flush with danger. There's also enough money in those markets to keep up substantial propaganda campaigns. Grand Theft Autobot fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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Jun 12, 2015 12:29
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A great American once explained Jrod's position much more concisely. I'm convinced, and you should be to  Stephen Colbert posted:Your body has its own regulatory agency, folks. When you ingest chemicals that are bad for you, your body alerts you. By dying.
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Jun 12, 2015 14:47
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:There's also enough money in those markets to keep up substantial propaganda campaigns. The biggest newspaper advertisers in the patent medicine era were, well, patent medicines. Needless to say, the threat of losing all their biggest sponsors and going bankrupt in no way influenced the papers' investigations into what exactly was in your Kickapoo Indian Sagwa.
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VitalSigns posted:Well duh, those first 3 grades in public school brainwashed you into thinking you needed "friends" and "a real education", so of course homeschooling can't repair that damage. Your dad should have kept you at home all those years until you figured out for yourself what you wanted to do. Oh it started when I was still in grade school. He had me moved from first grade to second after a big fight with the school, and I became a pariah of sorts. My second grade teacher treated me horribly - singled me out for criticism, punished me for doing things that she let other kids get away with, etc. I'm grateful to my dad for many things, but decimating my social development at a young age was a bad decision.
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Jun 12, 2015 15:51
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ElCondemn posted:No matter what I say it won't be enough. You're condemning your child to a lonely life of running to a mailbox once a month based on a wikipedia article. You also don't appear to have the life experience necessary to realize that a kid when he's young wants to play around a lot and may only be interested in learning about robots that turn into dinosaurs.. This is why you send them to structured education to learn fundamentals and then as a good parent work with them/play with them at home to understand what they're really interested in and help them cultivate hobbies around that. They also get the added benefit of making friends and interacting with other people which teaches other valuable skills. Just because you send your kid to school for 6-7 hours a day doesn't mean you have to ignore them when they get home.
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Jrod manages to tick off an awful lot of these for not being in physics: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html Anyone have the patience to calculate his score?
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Etalommi posted:Jrod manages to tick off an awful lot of these for not being in physics: quote:1 point for every statement that is widely agreed on to be false.
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Spatial posted:We're already off to a bad start here... quote:10 points for pointing out that you have gone to school, as if this were evidence of sanity. how many for pointing out you DIDN'T go to school? e: how many times has jrode tried to claim socialists and anarchists for libertarianism? quote:30 points for suggesting that a famous figure secretly disbelieved in a theory which he or she publicly supported. (E.g., that Feynman was a closet opponent of special relativity, as deduced by reading between the lines in his freshman physics textbooks.) Muscle Tracer fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jun 13, 2015 |
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Jun 13, 2015 21:35
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Etalommi posted:Jrod manages to tick off an awful lot of these for not being in physics: quote:A -5 point starting credit. Error [line 3]: integer overflow Muscle Tracer posted:e: how many times has jrode tried to claim socialists and anarchists for libertarianism? I think he's still insisting that Pierre "Property is Theft" Proudhon was totally on board with his free market bullshit.
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Jun 13, 2015 22:29
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Is Proudhon the one that all but literally said he personally wanted to rip every single Libertarian's nuts off like he was doing a Mortal Kombat fatality?
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Who What Now posted:Is Proudhon the one that all but literally said he personally wanted to rip every single Libertarian's nuts off like he was doing a Mortal Kombat fatality? No, I'm pretty sure that's the direct quote.
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Well, goddamn. It's taken months, but I've slowly but surely read through the whole thread. Every complete bit of insanity, the glorious brief flare-ups of Shiranaihito and LuftWaffle (and now ElCondemn, I guess), Jrodefeld bouncing from racism to vaccines to racism to free market to racism, the works. It's been a hell of ride. Come back, Jrodefeld! We miss you! Etalommi posted:Jrod manages to tick off an awful lot of these for not being in physics: quote:5. 5 points for each such statement that is adhered to despite careful correction. 
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theshim posted:Well, goddamn. Welcome to the club, buddy.  Any fun insights from archive binging? Does the general tone of the thread slowly degrade over time like I suspect?
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Jun 16, 2015 17:18
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Nolanar posted:Welcome to the club, buddy. And then there's Caros. Poor, poor Caros.
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I'm still waiting for jrod to recant his "no war can be waged profitably without a state and central banking" idiocy.
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paragon1 posted:I'm still waiting for jrod to recant his "no war can be waged profitably without a state and central banking" idiocy. ...what? Looting and raiding didnt exist before the nation state?
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Capfalcon posted:...what? Looting and raiding didnt exist before the nation state? It's not even that. It's profitable war didn't exist before the Fed / paper money not tied to a commodity. theshim posted:Man, that is hilariously on point. Welcome to the thread! I'm honestly slightly surprised that Jrod hasn't posted up his plans for a perpetual motion machine given how many points he's wracked up. I'm considering dropping  x5 on libertarians from Slate Star Codex, so they'll come to this thread and feel like they have allies and not just instantly disappear. It's either that or a new video game now that finals are done.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:22
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Apparently ancient history is a figment of our imagination.
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Etalommi posted:It's not even that. It's war didn't exist before the Fed / paper money not tied to a commodity. I think the correct choice is obvious.
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Who What Now posted:I think the correct choice is obvious. At least buying us some new libertarians will have good multiplayer.
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Etalommi posted:It's not even that. It's war didn't exist before the Fed / paper money not tied to a commodity. I may or may not have a libertarian alternate account waiting in case I get bored 
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I bought a cert for this insane Brazilian libertarian I know from offsite, and tried to get him to register via proxy, but he declined because the Dangan Ronpa 2 LP has long since ended 
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I bought a cert for this insane Brazilian libertarian I know from offsite, and tried to get him to register via proxy, but he declined because the Dangan Ronpa 2 LP has long since ended PYF bans and probations was never the same after that LP ended.
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Pope Guilty posted:PYF bans and probations was never the same after that LP ended.
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Bit of a derail here but still on theme. I'm a brazilian guy who moved to Argentina to study medicine. Their public med school, UBA, is free if you can get in, and -everyone- can take the first year of any course. It's hard, but if you pass, you're in for good. If you fail, you get to try again. You can try for 3 years before you can no longer register. It's also a rather renowned school for LA , having two Nobel prizes to its name. So a few weeks back we second-years attended the Locovigilia, or Madman's Watch, which is basically an overnight series of lectures meant to prepare students for the midterm exams. Several bigshot teachers and doctors show up to present reviews, classes and such. On of them, the star of the evening so to speak, ended his lecture with a bit that was basically a condensed refutation of social libertarianism, despite not mentioning politics even once. It was basically about channeling your passion for your profession through the free education offered by the uni, as a tool for bettering yourself and your society, making it about a vocation for service and general well-being rather than money, and that a good doctor that is not also decent human being may do a lot of good for his heir but will amount to little in the end. He got an ovation that lasted several minutes. What shocked me was the contrast to Brazil's perspective on the issue. Higher education in Brazil is acessed through national college entrance exams that place where you can go, which usually means that only rich kids that attended the best colleges and took extra classes get into the good positions...including the public ones. So basically you need to be wealthy to get a free education most of the time. For med school, tuition usually costs 7k reais (about 3 thousand USD) per month at the very least, if you can get in at all. The national medical association (a private entity) makes opening any new med schools a bureaucratic nightmare, as a way of limiting the influx of new professionals and keeping salaries and demand up. There is such a personnel shortage that the government studied drafting new graduates for a year of paid public service (which was shot show under accusation of communism and tyranny), and finally resorted to calling doctors from Cuba for exchange internships here (which is being hailed as communist plots and flamed in the media 24/7). Here they actually consider churning out a buttload of new doctors a point of pride. If you can hack it, they -want- you out there wearing white and caring for people. It doesn't feel fake in the least; veteran doctors and lecturers call freshmen students 'doctor' in the hallways and are always glad to answer questions, even the stupid ones.
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Etalommi posted:It's not even that. It's war didn't exist before the Fed / paper money not tied to a commodity. To be fair to Jrod, I don't think he ever claimed there was no war all. He claimed there was no profitable war. I don't think he ever answered any of the "on the other hand, all of recorded history" replies that he got, but we really don't need to strawman libertarian/Jrod's arguments.
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Someone needs to call up Daesh and tell them to disband right now, because it's not possible to seize oil revenues and fight wars without Jew banker fiat money in an evil satanic demoKKKracy.
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Buried alive posted:To be fair to Jrod, I don't think he ever claimed there was no war all. He claimed there was no profitable war. I don't think he ever answered any of the "on the other hand, all of recorded history" replies that he got, but we really don't need to strawman libertarian/Jrod's arguments. I edited it. On the other hand, he was using that to explain why there would be no war in Libertopia. So it may not have been unfair of me after all.
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War, like every other human activity, is never carried out except for the assurance of profit.
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Pope Guilty posted:War, like every other human activity, is never carried out except for the assurance of profit. hey now, sometimes it is carried out as loss prevention
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Stealing from the email forwards thread: Well that seems perfectly reasonable! I'm not sure what all this hubbub about taxes and environmental regulation was all about.
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Abolitionists? Never heard of them. Now let me explain to you why Abe Lincoln was a racist tyrant.
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Sephyr posted:Bit of a derail here but still on theme. Sometimes, I think South America is political Valhalla.
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Jeedy Jay posted:Sometimes, I think South America is political Valhalla. Just make sure you live in one of the good parts of the cities: 
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just got back from a 2-week vacation to Canada, really liking the 4 free extra kidneys, free extra heart, seven free MRIs and satchel of xanax i was able to demand at the hospital. they even included a free colonoscopy and a couple of ativan as a bonus, very relaxing.
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