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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
Celebrity Apprentice is on NBC. Connect the dots people. It's an NBC conspiracy!

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Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Ed Schultz must have lost his grip on reality or something.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Phone posted:

Welp, now you've done it. I'm telling the NC LAN thread.

There's only one barbecue sauce and it's Eastern style. Vinegar, brown sugar, and a poo poo load of red pepper. (the no items, fox only, final destination of bbq)

All barbecue sauces are a vinegar base plus other poo poo you probably don't need.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


I will not eat food that's not covered in corn syrup, and all self-respecting Americans should do the same IMO

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Periodiko posted:

Wait, what? Ed Schultz? Are you... do you know who Ed Schultz is? Are you being Colbert'd? What?

edit:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/hell-mustve-frozen-over-because-ed-schultz-is-defending-donald-trump/


What?

Trump is one logical endpoint to the Randian deification of financial success. If money is morality and competence, the richest is the best.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
How many times has he gone bankrupt?

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

VideoTapir posted:

How many times has he gone bankrupt?

Four, I believe.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


re: Trump being the second coming of Ross Perot, remember what Marx said about history repeating itself

Also, does anyone feel like this election is going to be a repeat of 88 except with the parties switched and Hillary taking the place of Bush 1? Except hopefully Hillary won't lose in 2020?

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

kik2dagroin posted:

Rush posted:

But he doesn't even disguise it folks in this encyclical. Doesn't even disguise it! Every other word seems to be about how unfettered capitalism is destroying the world and how the rich countries have to give more money to the poor countries to make amends. I mean, that's -- call it what you want -- Marxism, socialism, what have you.

How about we call it CHRIST-LIKE you dumb rear end in a top hat?

Yeah it's the liberals who are going to ruin Catholicism by making them eschew capitalism and advocate charity. How do you even say that poo poo with a straight face?

icantfindaname posted:

re: Trump being the second coming of Ross Perot, remember what Marx said about history repeating itself


Trump has nothing in common with Perot except lots of capital. Perot made poo poo-tons of sense and really shook things up. He was a genuine threat with a genuine shot at winning. When Trump opens his mouth, the longer he talks the less he says. He won't take any votes from anyone, except the daft candidates who are even less qualified than he is.

LloydDobler fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jun 17, 2015

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

LloydDobler posted:


How about we call it CHRIST-LIKE you dumb rear end in a top hat?

Yeah it's the liberals who are going to ruin Catholicism by making them eschew capitalism and advocate charity. How do you even say that poo poo with a straight face?
It's a great time to remind people of a classic.

Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Trump is one logical endpoint to the Randian deification of financial success. If money is morality and competence, the richest is the best.

Ed Schultz works as a progressive, pro-labor Democratic commentator. It would be like Bill O'Reilly doing a long segment on what a good candidate Bernie Sanders is.

Periodiko fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jun 17, 2015

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

icantfindaname posted:

re: Trump being the second coming of Ross Perot, remember what Marx said about history repeating itself
There's a reason I referred to Trump as "the farcical second coming of Ross Perot"

quote:

Also, does anyone feel like this election is going to be a repeat of 88 except with the parties switched and Hillary taking the place of Bush 1? Except hopefully Hillary won't lose in 2020?
I am not joking when I say the best thing Hillary could do is trigger a recession early in her term so that the economy is recovering and growing again by 2020. Either that or hope the current economic expansion (already getting long in the tooth at six years) to run until 2021.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

FMguru posted:


I am not joking when I say the best thing Hillary could do is trigger a recession early in her term so that the economy is recovering and growing again by 2020. Either that or hope the current economic expansion (already getting long in the tooth at six years) to run until 2021.

The upcoming tech bubble bust seems to be about the least painful recession possible. It involves a lot of money but it's mostly venture capitalists and app developers that will lose out. The main tech companies will still be in business because they actually produce stuff, and aside from housing nothing else is really well integrated with the busts.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Levantine posted:

Four, I believe.

And most of that was his casino business.

Just goes to show you: the house always wins, except when you've got a Trump card.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

computer parts posted:

The upcoming tech bubble bust seems to be about the least painful recession possible. It involves a lot of money but it's mostly venture capitalists and app developers that will lose out. The main tech companies will still be in business because they actually produce stuff, and aside from housing nothing else is really well integrated with the busts.
It won't even have that much effect in Silicon Valley. Those App Economy companies don't employ very many people, and the mainline tech companies of the area (Cisco and Intel and Apple and Google and Facebook) will just keep on happily going forward (happy because their recruitment and retention just got easier). Very different from the late 90s, where the Excites and Altavistas of the world employed thousands of people and cratered the whole regional economy when they went bust.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

I'm still puzzled by the argument that apparently "LIEBERALS" hate Christianity.

Is it because of being pro-life ad pro-gay rights? Like is that literally it?

It really sucks that (yet again) there is no vocal Christian Left in this country to kind of tap people on the shoulder in this regard.

FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 17, 2015

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

FuzzySkinner posted:

I'm still puzzled by the argument that apparently "LIEBERALS" hate Christianity.

Is it because of being pro-life ad pro-gay rights? Like is that literally it.

It really sucks that (yet again) there is no vocal Christian Left in this country to kind of tap people on the shoulder in this regard.

Not hating and bashing other people's cultures and religions is analogous to hating Christianity.

Inclusiveness is entirely about relative gains.

AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

iM A ROOKiE RiGHT NOW BUT i PROMiSE YOU EVERY SiNGLE FUCKiN BiTCH ASS ARTiST WHO TRiES TO SHADE ME i WiLL VERBALLY DiSMANTLE YOUR ASSHOLE
So speaking of religion, if the pope releases this formal anciclical (spelling?) Are all Catholic GOPers required to take to heart that global warming is the word of God?

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

The Weekly Standard Cover this week



nice to see david dees getting work

HFX
Nov 29, 2004

AcidRonin posted:

So speaking of religion, if the pope releases this formal anciclical (spelling?) Are all Catholic GOPers required to take to heart that global warming is the word of God?

No, because he is not speaking in ex cathedra. This is more of a teaching to which you should pay attention, but isn't without a chance at debate. The encyclical is considered a formal teaching, just not at the weight of the Word of God.

HFX fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jun 17, 2015

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

FuzzySkinner posted:

I'm still puzzled by the argument that apparently "LIEBERALS" hate Christianity.

Is it because of being pro-life ad pro-gay rights? Like is that literally it?

It really sucks that (yet again) there is no vocal Christian Left in this country to kind of tap people on the shoulder in this regard.

Well, less loud than the Christian Right, anyway. There are shitloads of churches heavily involved in the Democratic Party and organizing for various leftist causes.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

FuzzySkinner posted:

I'm still puzzled by the argument that apparently "LIEBERALS" hate Christianity.

Is it because of being pro-life ad pro-gay rights? Like is that literally it?

It really sucks that (yet again) there is no vocal Christian Left in this country to kind of tap people on the shoulder in this regard.

It's a function of team identification. They see themselves as being True Christians and since they are opposed to Democrats then obviously all Dems hate True Christianity

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret

computer parts posted:

The upcoming tech bubble bust seems to be about the least painful recession possible. It involves a lot of money but it's mostly venture capitalists and app developers that will lose out. The main tech companies will still be in business because they actually produce stuff, and aside from housing nothing else is really well integrated with the busts.

China's dual bubble though, is maybe six months to one year till burst.

foot
Mar 28, 2002

why foot why

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Well, less loud than the Christian Right, anyway. There are shitloads of churches heavily involved in the Democratic Party and organizing for various leftist causes.

But they aren't white Christians.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Tercio posted:

nice to see david dees getting work

I don't see a single star of david or Israeli flag in there.

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008

FuzzySkinner posted:

I'm still puzzled by the argument that apparently "LIEBERALS" hate Christianity.

Is it because of being pro-life ad pro-gay rights? Like is that literally it?

It really sucks that (yet again) there is no vocal Christian Left in this country to kind of tap people on the shoulder in this regard.

To the religious right, being in favor of the separation of church and state is anti-Christian.

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




GreyjoyBastard posted:

Well, less loud than the Christian Right, anyway. There are shitloads of churches heavily involved in the Democratic Party and organizing for various leftist causes.

This is true. The Episcopal Church is basically the Green Party At Prayer these days. Ditto the PCUSA, UCC and ELCA.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
I know about Trump's failures (casinos lol) but I'm wondering about why Ed would say what he did.

quote:

“I know everybody thinks that Trump is a joke and he jumps in front of the parade all the time and is a carnival barker and all that kind of stuff, but if it is about the economy, he’s created more jobs than any of them, than all of the candidates put together. He’s done more deals, he’s signed more contracts, he has the business experience, he’s the guy who’s taking the risk, he’s the guy who has been successful. I mean, Trump’s business experience, compared to the rest of the Republican field, is unparalleled, so why don’t they listen to him?”
Is it possible that this is true, just by the nature of how stupid the GOP field is?

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


Does somehow have a link that accurately explains the US Debt because everyone I know is comparing it to a household income and I know that isn't right.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Dr. Faustus posted:

I know about Trump's failures (casinos lol) but I'm wondering about why Ed would say what he did.

Is it possible that this is true, just by the nature of how stupid the GOP field is?

I believe the only two candidates with large-scale business experience are Trump and Carly Fiorina, both of whom are extremely adept at slamming their companies straight into the ground.

Trilas
Sep 16, 2004

Dr. Faustus posted:

I know about Trump's failures (casinos lol) but I'm wondering about why Ed would say what he did.

Is it possible that this is true, just by the nature of how stupid the GOP field is?

Unless I'm forgetting someone, the only other businessperson is Carly Fiorina, so I'd say that statement is accurate.

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Elderbean posted:

Does somehow have a link that accurately explains the US Debt because everyone I know is comparing it to a household income and I know that isn't right.
It is like a household income if you could print your own money, people would loan you money at interest rates so low that you actually make money on the deal, and you could raise your family's wages just by telling people to increase them.

Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.

HFX posted:

No, because he is not speaking in ex cathedra. This is more of a teaching to which you should pay attention, but isn't without a chance at debate. The encyclical is considered a formal teaching, just not at the weight of the Word of God.

The most interesting thing about the Pope's left-leaning stances is that so much of far right rhetoric is based on dismissal, condescension and contempt, but Catholic right-wingers simply can't denigrate the Pope like that. It's a funny little pinprick in the right-wing bubble, even if it doesn't usually amount to much.

Dr. Faustus posted:

I know about Trump's failures (casinos lol) but I'm wondering about why Ed would say what he did.

As far as I can tell, Ed is doing a weird kind of backhanded compliment. Essentially, Donald Trump gave a speech where he called out the rest of the GOP for trying to destroy the social security net, saying that it was unfair to the generations of people who had paid into it. It was actually pretty remarkable for a GOP candidate, because he literally said the Republican party wanted to dismantle all three programs by name, which is not at all the party-line. I think Ed Schultz is basically saying "if you guys are the business party, why don't you listen to the successful business man and stop trying to destroy the safety net?"

I think he was just latching onto a Republican breaking kayfabe, when Republicans know it's political suicide to openly declare their intentions with those programs.

Also, Ed Schultz is kind of a blowhard talk-radio dummy, albeit a left-leaning pro-worker one.

Periodiko fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jun 17, 2015

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Periodiko posted:

The most interesting thing about the Pope's left-leaning stances is that so much of far right rhetoric is based on dismissal, condescension and contempt, but Catholic right-wingers simply can't denigrate the Pope like that. It's a funny little pinprick in the right-wing bubble, even if it doesn't usually amount to much.
Rick Santorum on the Pope

quote:

The church has gotten it wrong a few times on science. And I think that we are probably better off leaving science to the scientists and focusing on what we're really good at, which is theology and morality.

Rick Santorum is Catholic.

The Pope has a degree in chemistry which makes it doubly funny. While it is worth noting that a chemistry degree doesn't mean he knows anything about the climate, it does mean that the Pope does in fact know more abut science than Santorum, who apparently thinks religious leaders shouldn't comment on science, but he, a non-scientist, should.

Also, I keep giggling every time I type Santorum.

Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

Rick Santorum on the Pope


Rick Santorum is Catholic.

That's a very mainstream way to dismiss the Pope though, saying "we shouldn't listen to the Pope on climate change, we should listen to scientists" is as reasonable as it gets. This is what Rick Santorum says about environmentalists that aren't the Pope:

quote:

“And they’re preying on the Northeast, saying, ‘Look what’s going to happen. Ooh, all this bad stuff’s going to happen, we don’t know all these chemicals and all this stuff,’” he continued. “Let me tell you what’s going to happen: Nothing’s going to happen, except they will use this to raise money for the radical environmental groups so they can go out and continue to try to purvey their reign of environmental terror on the United States of America. We will stand up for the truth.

quote:

“This idea that man is here to serve the earth as opposed to husband its resources and be good stewards of the earth” is, he maintained on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” “a phony ideal. I don’t believe that’s what we’re here to do. That man is here to use the resources and use them wisely, to care for the earth, to be a steward of the earth. But we’re not here to serve the earth. The earth is not the objective. Man is the objective, and I think a lot of radical environmentalists have it upside-down.” That kind of ideology, he complained, “elevates the earth above man.”

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
Pope Francis has a technical certificate and was a lab tech, which while still lightyears more science experience than Santorum has, is just running and maintaining the machinery for actual scientists.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
If Rick Santorum gets to pick and choose when he listens to the pope then why the gently caress does he expect the entire nation to listen to his browbeating over what we do with ourselves?

I figured the truthiness of the pope was the last line of defense against accusations that their morals come from the icky feeling in their tummies rather than an all powerful sky deity.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Separation of church and state is a lie that leads to corruption.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Trump's gone broke multiple times and sued people for mentioning it (pretty confident he's not a goon, thankfully), so the fact that anybody at all keeps propping him up as a business success is proof that presenting yourself as a success is sometimes the whole battle.

Also, he killed the USFL, so gently caress him.

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ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:
Rush Limbaugh's crumbling syndication update, Boston Edition. He was dropped from a 50,000 watt station in Boston, and Clear Channel(now iHeartMedia) is flipping a miniscule 5,000 watt station from Spanish-language programming to random sports and right wing talk just for Limbaugh.

This is the radio equivalent of being fired from your job for being a hateful rear end in a top hat, getting evicted, and then having to move back into a tiny room in your parents' house that's filled with all their old exercise equipment.

Not only is Limbaugh's reach in Boston vanishing, the syndication company can't even pick up any fees for airing the program since they own the station. They're doing it so they can claim coverage in every major market in order to maintain what few relationships they still have with national advertisers.

Limbaugh's current contract is for $50 million per year, and Clear Channel would be insane to renew him when it comes up next year since they're continually posting millions of dollars in losses in the triple digits. Limbaugh is advertising kryptonite. There is no amount of money they could pay him that would justify the losses he is causing for the company.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/06/17/rush-limbaugh-demoted-to-another-irrelevant-rat/204028

ErIog fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jun 18, 2015

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