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Joementum posted:Jeb! meets Jeb, probably. When you stare into the abyss...
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Fried Chicken posted:John Kaisch is in Manchester NH today. As of 10 minutes ago he was in a local bar heavily frequented by bikers. In an attempt to mingle with the common man, he decided to share with them his favorite band. Old news.
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# ? Jun 17, 2015 23:23 |
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Trump is 10th, he is above the cutoff for televised debate right now. I really hope he gets to be in a debate, it will result in some hilarious crazy.
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fermun posted:
He definitely will if Christie doesn't run.
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# ? Jun 17, 2015 23:37 |
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Note that the poll is from two weeks ago and Trump is guaranteed a poll bump following his announcement.
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# ? Jun 17, 2015 23:39 |
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I dunno, I'm pretty sure Trump has no place to go but down.
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# ? Jun 17, 2015 23:41 |
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fermun posted:
Aside from Christie is there anyone else above Trump who hasn't declared yet?
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# ? Jun 17, 2015 23:41 |
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Skwirl posted:Aside from Christie is there anyone else above Trump who hasn't declared yet? Walker.
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Skwirl posted:Aside from Christie is there anyone else above Trump who hasn't declared yet? Scatt Walker
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# ? Jun 17, 2015 23:44 |
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This may be a really dumb question but what is the primary situation like, I mean is it even conceivable that Trump could win some primaries as comedy votes? Hillary has the nomination in the bag and Trump is both reviled enough and not taken seriously by anyone that I could see people crossing over for just the comedy.
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# ? Jun 17, 2015 23:51 |
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WaPo had an incredible report from Trump's Iowa event yesterday that got put up around noon today and I didn't see it posted. Includes actual quotes from actual Trump supporters who attended: The Trump circus comes to Iowa quote:DES MOINES — By the time Donald Trump arrived at Hoyt Sherman auditorium here Tuesday night, he was running more than an hour behind schedule. “This has been a wild day,” he exclaimed. It would only get more so.
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Three Olives posted:This may be a really dumb question but what is the primary situation like, I mean is it even conceivable that Trump could win some primaries as comedy votes? Hillary has the nomination in the bag and Trump is both reviled enough and not taken seriously by anyone that I could see people crossing over for just the comedy. i dont believe there is any feasible way for trump to win a primary. if he did it would signal absolutely calamitous things for the GOP. for instance, it would indicate that the party has lost its grip on its own systems to such an extent that a candidate who is, as you said, a comedy option on his best day could take even a single state in the nomination process. paranoid randroid fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Are any of the 20 or so potential candidates military veterans? Not that I believe it is a qualifier, but It seems unthinkable to me that this isn't a bigger issue among republican voters and in the media.
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Three Olives posted:This may be a really dumb question but what is the primary situation like, I mean is it even conceivable that Trump could win some primaries as comedy votes? Hillary has the nomination in the bag and Trump is both reviled enough and not taken seriously by anyone that I could see people crossing over for just the comedy. If he really, really wanted to, Trump could pour millions into an uncontested early primary or caucus and maybe win it. Like, it's not absurd to think he could buy the vote in the Virgin Islands or Alaska. But that would be a tacit admission that his candidacy is a joke and require strategic thinking on his part, neither of which are possibilities. He can self-fund his campaign as long as he wants, and if he does he'll pick up a delegate or two in the states that award them proportionally with no viability threshold. Much more likely is that he stays in for a couple of debates and then quits to be on the next season of The Apprentice in the fall. edit: All of that assumes that Trump actually bothers to get on any of the ballots, which requires actual organization and effort. Joementum fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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im a ski bum posted:Are any of the 20 or so potential candidates military veterans? Not that I believe it is a qualifier, but It seems unthinkable to me that this isn't a bigger issue among republican voters and in the media. Perry flew in the Air Force, but never saw combat. Graham was a JAG officer who retired June 1, this year. Oh, and on the Democratic side, Jim Webb is a Vietnam vet with a purple heart, navy cross, silver star, and bronze star. He's declaring his candidacy in a week or two. Joementum fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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site posted:Soon enough all news will just be delivered in gifs and meme pictures. ABC seems to embrace this more than other media outlets, so it's a perfect fit
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I'm going to repeat a quote from that article because it just boggles my mind:quote:John Revak, who is in the lumber business, said he was drawn to Trump’s business experience. “He presents himself as a negotiator — and obviously he’s been successful at it — so those are big assets,” Revak said. “I think he understands how the economy works. A lot of them who are running are too much government wonky.” Someone actually exists who thinks that Trump is not only 1) not a blabbering idiot, but 2) is good at negotiation and 3) understands how the economy works. And there may be several more like him. Trump's campaign is succeeding where Trump personally succeeded--the triumph of image over substance. And in that regard, he's actually a lot like Reagan.
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 00:10 |
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Joementum posted:Jeb! meets Jeb, probably. Lazy
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Cantorsdust posted:I'm going to repeat a quote from that article because it just boggles my mind: That quote stood out to me, too. The Reagan comparison is good. Good point, John! The problem with the government is that there are too many policy experts in it. So vote Trump!
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 00:18 |
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Mark Penn is now available
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 00:25 |
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Alkydere posted:Sometimes people want a small meal right now on their lunch break, not an entire pie. Many pizza places will have lunch slices available for just that reason. I can see a justification for a cheap gas station pizza, like getting a Little Caesars. But buying it by the slice negates the benefit of feeding a group of people for $5, making it just a completely insane decision. Better a gas station sandwich than a single slice of gas station pizza. Joementum posted:If he really, really wanted to, Trump could pour millions into an uncontested early primary or caucus and maybe win it. Like, it's not absurd to think he could buy the vote in the Virgin Islands or Alaska. But that would be a tacit admission that his candidacy is a joke and require strategic thinking on his part, neither of which are possibilities. He can self-fund his campaign as long as he wants, and if he does he'll pick up a delegate or two in the states that award them proportionally with no viability threshold. Much more likely is that he stays in for a couple of debates and then quits to be on the next season of The Apprentice in the fall. Assuming there's still a massive field by the time we actually hit voting, it's quite plausible for someone from the crazy train to win a primary. Trump's biggest problem is that he doesn't have a defined wing of the party that he's the big fish in. Rand, Cruz, Huck, and maybe Perry and Santorum have defined bases within the party. Those bases are usually way to small to swing anything, but with multiple candidates splitting the vote of both the establishment and free range crazy, it's conceivable for one of them to come out ahead. Hell, Huck probably would have won South Carolina in '08 if McCain's buddy hadn't pretended to run for just long enough to nip that in the bud. So, sure, it's entirely conceivable that Trump could win some primaries, comedy or not. It's not likely, and any scenario that would enable him to do so is much more favorable for 3-5 of his competitors. Assuming of course Walker, Rubio, and Bush all stay in and/or Kasich jumps in to either further dilute the Establishment or replace one of the trio. Gyges fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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Cantorsdust posted:I'm going to repeat a quote from that article because it just boggles my mind: You heard the same sort of thing about Romney, and about Bush(first MBA president). It's the inevitable result of denigrating government service and worshipping at the free market altar. If you convince the base that the people most qualified to run the government are least fit to do so, then you end up with clowns like Cain or Trump in the race. The fact that Trump is the sort of unselfconscious rear end in a top hat who will just blurt out the hateful garbage(Mexican rapists flooding over the border! Build the dang wall!) that the other candidates can only dogwhistle about. im a ski bum posted:Are any of the 20 or so potential candidates military veterans? Not that I believe it is a qualifier, but It seems unthinkable to me that this isn't a bigger issue among republican voters and in the media. Eh. The whole veteran thing was mostly a kind of proxy battle over Vietnam. And even then it mostly just got brought up when the GOP wanted something to bash Democrats with. If the Republicans gave a drat about a military service record then they would not have knifed McCain back in 2000 to give Bush the lead.
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 00:32 |
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Remember those people shouting at the Trump presser? http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161 quote:Hi there— Job Creation
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 00:44 |
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Joementum posted:Perry flew in the Air Force, but never saw combat. Graham was a JAG officer who retired June 1, this year. If he gets the nom, I'm eagerly awaiting the formation of the 1st Marine Division Vets for Truth. That is a more impressive military record than Kerry's record.
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 00:45 |
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I think all of you are underestimating Trump's appeal to a certain demographic CRUCIAL to the Republican Party: Low info blithering idiots. High info idiots are already onboard with Bush.
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 00:55 |
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Joementum posted:Jeb! meets Jeb, probably. That is Casey's pizza and it is good pizza. At this point I'm almost positive every Casey's gas station has a full kitchen area for primarily pizza. They also have a cook for the morning and for the night who make the pizza. The dough is made from scratch or at least a friend who worked as a cook said so. It is at least way better than all the chain pizza places. Now Jeb! has the goes poo poo. Either that cup had mini donuts, pizza rolls, popcorn chicken, potato slices, or cheesy potato bites. Or he was advertising.
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Joementum posted:Jeb! meets Jeb, probably. He should be be doing more to target that demographic:
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Republican's don't give a poo poo about the troops.
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 01:07 |
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Whoever started that Trump retweet account, I just sent you a pretty funny one.@realDonaldTrump posted:Only a fool would buy the @NYDailyNews. Loses fortune & has zero gravitas. Let it die!
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Stereotype posted:Republican's don't give a poo poo about the troops. Republican voters do. fake edit: ostensibly
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 01:14 |
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Celador posted:The GOP brought this on themselves after Obama was elected and they went Full Retard and embraced the TEA Party and Duck Dynasty idiots. I thought we would never beat 2012 but here we are. Donald loving Trump. Yeah. I didn't think they (the GOP) would actually go there. I still feel the Palin nomination was the Opening Pandora's Box event that made all else possible. I feel like both men are wondering how exactly they arrived at this particular moment in time and space.
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 01:14 |
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That's a pretty glorious neck beard. Looks like it naturally just ends at his jawline.
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 01:35 |
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fermun posted:
So is Pataki this cycle's Huntsman?
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 01:36 |
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Cantorsdust posted:Someone actually exists who thinks that Trump is not only 1) not a blabbering idiot, but 2) is good at negotiation and 3) understands how the economy works. And there may be several more like him. It's that weird American belief that the super-wealthy are somehow better and more virtuous and smarter than the rest of us. I bet it has a lot to with Prosperity Gospel, where your wealth is a measure of God's esteem for you.
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# ? Jun 18, 2015 01:40 |
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OK, Scott. I guess that means you should be President?
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Joementum posted:OK, Scott. I guess that means you should be President? What on earth does this mean. And I guess he is correct? Using 2011 numbers from Wikipedia: Wisconsin makes 1.3 million tons of cheese a year. The United States makes 5.2 million metric tons of cheese a year, so after Wisconsin secedes to join the national rankings under President Walker they will still be first with 3.9 million tons. #2 is Germany with 2.0 million tons a year. #3 is France with 1.9 million Then Wisconsin at #4 Then #5 is Italy, with 1.1 million. Good job Scott? Stereotype fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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Joementum posted:OK, Scott. I guess that means you should be President? The emphasis is on the completely wrong words here lol
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Stereotype posted:What on earth does this mean. Nope, according to the Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board, the independent Badger's Republic of Wisconsin would be the #4 world producer of cheese.
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Joementum posted:Nope, according to the Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board, the independent Badger's Republic of Wisconsin would be the #4 world producer of cheese. Yeah I edited my post I did the conversion from pounds to tons wrong.
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Joementum posted:OK, Scott. I guess that means you should be President? The real question is what was Wisconsin's rank before Walker took office. Did he close the cheese gap or widen it?
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