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Kwyndig: Sep 23, 2006; Heeeeeey

Mo0 posted:

This reminds me, I think I was working on my books before I stopped playing, is that weapon going to be immediately obliterated upon hitting expansion content or should I still work on getting the stuff for it?

If you take it all the way to Zeta it's still good for a couple levels.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:08

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# ? May 14, 2024 14:53

Fancy Hat!: Dec 5, 2003; In spite of how he's dressed, he ain't nobody's fool.

So I'm only about halfway through the original story, is basically all of Heavensward content locked behind story? Aside from the new race, Im guessing?

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:11

Stormgale: Feb 27, 2010

Fancy Hat! posted:

So I'm only about halfway through the original story, is basically all of Heavensward content locked behind story? Aside from the new race, Im guessing?

Yeah, you need to finish ARR story to get new classes, you only need to talk to 2 people in HVWRD main story to get to them though.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:14

Axle_Stukov: Feb 26, 2011; Stylin'

Kwyndig posted:

If you take it all the way to Zeta it's still good for a couple levels.

But if your still on the books step don't bother, Dusk Vigil drops 120 stuff, including 2 weapons per run.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:14

Reco: Feb 26, 2011; enemy one body to the proximity Zan attack discard the power slap hit.

Ciaphas posted:

Honestly I think it's more that I'm not used to doing such low damage after being omni-50 for so long, it's kinda killing the hype buzz.

I'm also sorta waiting to make judgement because MCH is incredibly backloaded with some of their bigger skills.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:15

Begemot: Oct 14, 2012; The One True Oden

Axle_Stukov posted:

But if your still on the books step don't bother, Dusk Vigil drops 120 stuff, including 2 weapons per run.

Also poetics rain from the sky now, you could just buy a 120 in way less time than it would take to finish a relic.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:17

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Welfare i115 is the best.

:siren:

How to Not Suck at Leveling 30-50 :siren:

Always do your low level roulette daily first if not already completed. Levequests current benefit from rest XP, but do not consume it. You heard me right. This makes levequests ludicrous in the level ranges they're available. FATEs suck and are terrible XP/hour due to boss HP scaling and the massive zergfests going on right now.

30-35: Go to Camp Tranquil in South Shroud. Get the Adamantoise Tears leve. Max level difficulty, just run and pick up the tears while ignoring all enemies. They attack slow, so even with 2 on you, you can pick the items up off the ground. If Adamantoise Tears isn't available, do Black Market Down on lowest difficulty to bring it back.

35-40: Do Qarn at level 35 until 36/Cutter's Cry at 38 until 39 (chain XP puts them on top over leves). Otherwise, Go to the Observatorium in Coerthas. Run Cower to the People, just like Adamantoise Tears. If it's not up, Have a Nice Trip and Now We're Even are nice alternatives. Alternatively you can chain run whatever your latest dungeon is; they give a little less XP/hour than leves.

40-44: lovely levels. Cutter's Cry at 40 and Stone Vigil from 41-44 are the fastest XP/hour available to you. If you have an amazing HQ gear set and can handle +5 mobs, go to St Conch and do leves there (see below). If you have slow queues, sorry; your best bet is to find a Coerthas FATE group in party finder and join the zerg while you're in queue.

44-50: Find or build a DD speedclear group. Coast to 50 on 800,000+ xp/hour. If you're a lone wolf and rue the concept of playing with others in an MMO, you can go to St Conch in Mor Dhona. Grab all of the leves except the Naturalist. Speeding through those will give about 600k xp/hour if you have rest XP available, a little more or less depending on your efficiency.

Leve tips: Is the leve telling you to kill a mob for an item to use on other mobs to dispell their illusion BS? If you hit a mob, their illusion is dispelled anyways, so just run around tapping all the mobs once, run out of range, then run back in and kill your leve targets. Picking stuff up off the ground? Ignore all enemies, acquire tears.

Zagposting fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jun 20, 2015

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:18

BottledBodhisvata: Jul 26, 2013; by Lowtax

I have more allowances for Beastman dailies than I have Beastman tribes I care about

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:24

Celery Jello: Mar 21, 2005; Slippery Tilde

Are there plans to have the relic quest continue into the expansion, or is it an entirely moot point now? Seems kind of sad for all that work to completely go by the wayside, especially with the emphasis that had on it being your one weapon that grew up alongside you.

Thanks for the advice, though, now I know what to focus on.

I was also reading, apparently 2.4 story quests are straight up dropping the i110 soldiery (?) gear as quest rewards. Looks like I picked the perfect place to stop :getin:

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:26

RuanGacho: Jun 20, 2002; "You're gunna break it!"

Today is crafting day.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:29

terrified of my bathroom: Jan 24, 2014; GAY BOATS

Mo0 posted:

Are there plans to have the relic quest continue into the expansion, or is it an entirely moot point now? Seems kind of sad for all that work to completely go by the wayside, especially with the emphasis that had on it being your one weapon that grew up alongside you.

Thanks for the advice, though, now I know what to focus on.

I was also reading, apparently 2.4 story quests are straight up dropping the i110 soldiery (?) gear as quest rewards. Looks like I picked the perfect place to stop

The relic quest starts up again in 3.1 apparently, and supposedly having a zeta will make it easier to get. Thats all we know for now.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:31

homeless snail: Mar 14, 2007

Mo0 posted:

Are there plans to have the relic quest continue into the expansion, or is it an entirely moot point now? Seems kind of sad for all that work to completely go by the wayside, especially with the emphasis that had on it being your one weapon that grew up alongside you.

Thanks for the advice, though, now I know what to focus on.

I was also reading, apparently 2.4 story quests are straight up dropping the i110 soldiery (?) gear as quest rewards. Looks like I picked the perfect place to stop

They said if you have a zeta relic you'll get some kind of boost on whatever the 3.1 weapon quest is.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:31

Celery Jello: Mar 21, 2005; Slippery Tilde

Okay, that seems fair then. Gives the dorks like me a chance to get acquainted with the game before starting a new weapon grind.

How do they keep making the correct decisions what the gently caress

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:36

Fate Accomplice: Nov 30, 2006

Riftling posted:

Welfare i115 is the best.

How to Not Suck at Leveling 30-50

Always do your low level roulette daily first if not already completed. Levequests current benefit from rest XP, but do not consume it. You heard me right. This makes levequests ludicrous in the level ranges they're available. FATEs suck and are terrible XP/hour due to boss HP scaling and the massive zergfests going on right now.

30-35: Go to Camp Tranquil in South Shroud. Get the Adamantoise Tears leve. Max level difficulty, just run and pick up the tears while ignoring all enemies. They attack slow, so even with 2 on you, you can pick the items up off the ground. If Adamantoise Tears isn't available, do Black Market Down on lowest difficulty to bring it back.

35-40: Do Qarn at level 35 until 36/Cutter's Cry at 38 until 39 (chain XP puts them on top over leves). Otherwise, Go to the Observatorium in Coerthas. Run Cower to the People, just like Adamantoise Tears. If it's not up, Have a Nice Trip and Now We're Even are nice alternatives. Alternatively you can chain run whatever your latest dungeon is; they give a little less XP/hour than leves.

40-44: lovely levels. Cutter's Cry at 40 and Stone Vigil from 41-44 are the fastest XP/hour available to you. If you have an amazing HQ gear set and can handle +5 mobs, go to St Conch and do leves there (see below). If you have slow queues, sorry; your best bet is to find a Coerthas FATE group in party finder and join the zerg while you're in queue.

44-50: Find or build a DD speedclear group. Coast to 50 on 800,000+ xp/hour. If you're a lone wolf and rue the concept of playing with others in an MMO, you can go to St Conch in Mor Dhona. Grab all of the leves except the Naturalist. Speeding through those will give about 600k xp/hour if you have rest XP available, a little more or less depending on your efficiency.

Leve tips: Is the leve telling you to kill a mob for an item to use on other mobs to dispell their illusion BS? If you hit a mob, their illusion is dispelled anyways, so just run around tapping all the mobs once, run out of range, then run back in and kill your leve targets. Picking stuff up off the ground? Ignore all enemies, acquire tears.

Thanks for posting this. Any rec for where to do 20-30 maximally efficiently? I have a few classes languishing. I had no idea levequests didn't spend rest XP while taking advantage of it - think that'll be changed?

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:56

Mazed: Oct 23, 2010

Riftling posted:

How to Not Suck at Leveling 30-50

Always do your low level roulette daily first if not already completed. Levequests current benefit from rest XP, but do not consume it. You heard me right. This makes levequests ludicrous in the level ranges they're available. FATEs suck and are terrible XP/hour due to boss HP scaling and the massive zergfests going on right now.

30-35: Go to Camp Tranquil in South Shroud. Get the Adamantoise Tears leve. Max level difficulty, just run and pick up the tears while ignoring all enemies. They attack slow, so even with 2 on you, you can pick the items up off the ground. If Adamantoise Tears isn't available, do Black Market Down on lowest difficulty to bring it back.

35-40: Do Qarn at level 35 until 36/Cutter's Cry at 38 until 39 (chain XP puts them on top over leves). Otherwise, Go to the Observatorium in Coerthas. Run Cower to the People, just like Adamantoise Tears. If it's not up, Have a Nice Trip and Now We're Even are nice alternatives. Alternatively you can chain run whatever your latest dungeon is; they give a little less XP/hour than leves.

40-44: lovely levels. Cutter's Cry at 40 and Stone Vigil from 41-44 are the fastest XP/hour available to you. If you have an amazing HQ gear set and can handle +5 mobs, go to St Conch and do leves there (see below). If you have slow queues, sorry; your best bet is to find a Coerthas FATE group in party finder and join the zerg while you're in queue.

44-50: Find or build a DD speedclear group. Coast to 50 on 800,000+ xp/hour. If you're a lone wolf and rue the concept of playing with others in an MMO, you can go to St Conch in Mor Dhona. Grab all of the leves except the Naturalist. Speeding through those will give about 600k xp/hour if you have rest XP available, a little more or less depending on your efficiency.

Leve tips: Is the leve telling you to kill a mob for an item to use on other mobs to dispell their illusion BS? If you hit a mob, their illusion is dispelled anyways, so just run around tapping all the mobs once, run out of range, then run back in and kill your leve targets. Picking stuff up off the ground? Ignore all enemies, acquire tears.

Thank you, this post is good. An alternative to Camp Tranquil, FYI, is Costa Del Sol.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:57

Rannison: Sep 18, 2007

Athenry posted:

Honestly, working on my BRD, not doing much damage seems to be the norm. I know we've overpowered everything for a while, but it feels like stuff takes even longer to die than it should.

You know, I'm sure you're right but two MCH dps in dungeons seems dreadfully slow.

The dungeons aren't hard, obviously, but they seem to take quite a bit more time than I remember.

But still much more fun than FATEs

# ? Jun 20, 2015 17:15

Rei_: May 16, 2004; The difference between confinement and rest is a shift in perspective

someone keeps leaving all these potatoes on our FC house lawn with giant broadswords tape to them

# ? Jun 20, 2015 17:28

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Mazed posted:

Thank you, this post is good. An alternative to Camp Tranquil, FYI, is Costa Del Sol.

Costa is nice, but Adamantoise Tears is probably the best leve in the game for xp/hour, so there's not much reason to do anything other than that in that level range. The leve is right next to the Levemete, you can finish it in under a minute, and it comes back instantly most of the time (and there's an easy 100% reset for it if not).

Malloreon posted:

Thanks for posting this. Any rec for where to do 20-30 maximally efficiently? I have a few classes languishing. I had no idea levequests didn't spend rest XP while taking advantage of it - think that'll be changed?

20-30 you can stick around South Shroud/Quarrymill, fish for No Leaves Left Behind in the 20-25 range and Up the Creek in the 25-30 range. Other leves there are fine too, just ignore any escorts. Always run equal level dungeons for chain bonuses.

I'm assuming they'll fix it eventually, but it's been like this for a while now.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 17:31

RuanGacho: Jun 20, 2002; "You're gunna break it!"

This is your quick guide to contributing to Free Company Crafting and how it basically works.

What is the Workshop?

The workshop currently has three things it can make: Airship parts, Aetherial wheels for rank 3 company actions and house Glamours so we can turn the house into an item, armor or weapon shop look if we wish. Airships are required for the airship venture system which allows you to create more advanced ships and other rarer commodities, plans and supplies for the workshop. Airships parts degrade over time and so will always require the workshop to be doing something. Welcome to the ultimate crafting orboros which will help keep even lower level materials useful, forever.

I am a useless baby crafter with no artisan gear or anything, I wish I could help but...

Fear not! The workshop makes use of components from the 20's crafters and onward which means that gathering classes of similar level also can provide useful materials. Importantly, it doesn't matter what kind of DoHand you are as long as you have a pulse, you can help just by being in the Workshop Progression Party.

I can't solo this?

No, in order for each stage to advance you need at least a Light Party of Disciple of the Hand, the party leader can then advance the project as long as they have permission. Our FC allows anyone to advance it because there's no real harm in it.

Where is the Workshop?

The Workshop is in the private chambers door, it's the new option for all your important crafting needs

How do I contribute?

Every time we build an item it has a phase, there can be up to 8 phases for a crafted component, all you have to do is walk up to the main panel and add items from your inventory into the [size=small][font=Arial Black]~~Orb God~~[/font][/size].

How do we make a thing?

Someone with appropriate permission in the free company can designate the next project, the amount of phases and what each phase requires material wise are laid out in this window, use this for planning.

What are these panels in here?

This is the airship management panel, this will be covered elsewhere as it can get complicated, the short answer is, FC wide Airships go on missions like retainers.

This is the board for learning new things like researching how to make your house glamoured to look like a restaurant. Progress on this board requires materials collected from airships explorations and ventures.

This is the Orb God where all items go to live and die

What is Fabrication Condition?

Fabrication condition is what the last phase ended up doing, if it is excellent condition as improved by the construction quality trait, this phase could have items already contributed to it without any user input, as noted in the screen above, each category of item had 1/3rd of their items already added, reducing the amount of total items needed to complete this phase.

What is Construction Quality?

Construction quality is affected by the quality of items contributed to the project, though unconfirmed for sure it doesn't seem to matter on the last phase, because you're not going to "HQ" the component, it can only improve the next phase and make less items be potentially needed.

Please Be Careful when Crafting as a Team!

RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jun 20, 2015

# ? Jun 20, 2015 17:51

Periodiko: Jan 30, 2005; Uh.

Is it me or is the voice-acting in Heavensward like a million times better. Characters actually emote and speak naturalistically, and I think they recast a huge chunk of the cast?

Zaras posted:

Fair enough, fair enough.

On a different note, whose idea was it to make players do a level 15 guildhest as part of the 2.1 quests.

Square had data that people weren't doing guildhests, like people got to level 50 without even realizing guildhests existed in the game, so they forced people to interact with the system to continue the main quest.

The patch quests really suck to marathon, but the later ones do get better, especially the pre-Heavensward ones.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 18:14

a kitten: Aug 5, 2006

C'olonel Sanders ordering NPCs around now.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 18:21

Ciaphas: Nov 20, 2005; > BEWARE, COWARD

Rannison posted:

You know, I'm sure you're right but two MCH dps in dungeons seems dreadfully slow.

The dungeons aren't hard, obviously, but they seem to take quite a bit more time than I remember.

But still much more fun than FATEs

Are you up to 40 yet? I'm wondering how much it changes then, myself, with the turrets.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 18:46

Stormgale: Feb 27, 2010

Rannison posted:

You know, I'm sure you're right but two MCH dps in dungeons seems dreadfully slow.

The dungeons aren't hard, obviously, but they seem to take quite a bit more time than I remember.

But still much more fun than FATEs

Our MCN dungeons went by pretty quick, from haukke all the way to darkhold, then again I had an AST on mumble communicating cards with me so that might have helped

# ? Jun 20, 2015 18:48

Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

Maybe the poor timing is the leading cause of this, but this game is terrible. Literally every server is greyed out for making new characters right now. Bang up job there Squenix, launch an expansion to draw in new players but prevent them from actually loving playing. :thumbsup:

# ? Jun 20, 2015 18:57

Rannison: Sep 18, 2007

Ciaphas posted:

Are you up to 40 yet? I'm wondering how much it changes then, myself, with the turrets.

Got 40 [almost 41] last night and the Rook Turret makes a pretty noticeable change.

Me gusta.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:06

LITERALLY MY FETISH: Nov 11, 2010; Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Furnaceface posted:

Maybe the poor timing is the leading cause of this, but this game is terrible. Literally every server is greyed out for making new characters right now. Bang up job there Squenix, launch an expansion to draw in new players but prevent them from actually loving playing.

lol

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:10

Captain Oblivious: Oct 12, 2007; I'm not like other posters

Furnaceface posted:

Maybe the poor timing is the leading cause of this, but this game is terrible. Literally every server is greyed out for making new characters right now. Bang up job there Squenix, launch an expansion to draw in new players but prevent them from actually loving playing.

Things are gonna be crazy for a little while. That's life on an extremely successful MMO launching an expansion.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:11

Hellioning: Jun 27, 2008

Furnaceface posted:

Maybe the poor timing is the leading cause of this, but this game is terrible. Literally every server is greyed out for making new characters right now. Bang up job there Squenix, launch an expansion to draw in new players but prevent them from actually loving playing.

Try a different data center.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:14

Doublestep: Sep 8, 2013; Keep on keeping on!

MCH dps really shines once you get Rook and Bishop. Havent gotten Gauss yet but it's a 20% damage increase so

I did a Tam Tara Hard with a drk tank and me on MCH and it was insanely fast

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:14

DizzyBum: Apr 16, 2007

Furnaceface posted:

Maybe the poor timing is the leading cause of this, but this game is terrible. Literally every server is greyed out for making new characters right now. Bang up job there Squenix, launch an expansion to draw in new players but prevent them from actually loving playing.

Counterpoint - Aside from a couple lobby errors yesterday (an understandable bottleneck), I've had no problems logging in and playing, even in congested zones, and I'm shocked that the game's been this stable. :thumbsup:

Also, when did you get the game? Are you just now trying to make your first character during the early access period?

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:21

Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

e: ^^^ I literally just bought it Thursday night before the Steam sale ended so I dont even have characters to log in to.

Captain Oblivious posted:

Things are gonna be crazy for a little while. That's life on an extremely successful MMO launching an expansion.

Yeah I know, Ive played WoW before during some of their big xpack launches. Im mostly just mad at myself for being a dweeb and thinking I still had a month before the expansion launched. Guess I cant be mad, the game itself was 50% off during the Steam sale so its not like it was a big money loss either. :shobon:

Furnaceface fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jun 20, 2015

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:22

LITERALLY MY FETISH: Nov 11, 2010; Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Doublestep posted:

MCH dps really shines once you get Rook and Bishop. Havent gotten Gauss yet but it's a 20% damage increase so

I did a Tam Tara Hard with a drk tank and me on MCH and it was insanely fast

From the little bit of DRK I've gotten through, they can lay out a surprising amount of damage if they line everything up right, so even if mch is pretty much right in line with all the dps like it feels like, DRK tanks would make it go quite a bit faster.

Also, cross classing all the good stuff and popping every cooldown as a MCH is something not enough people I've seen are doing, it's really funny to just completely roid out with blood, hawkeye, all the MCH cooldowns, ammo, and raging strikes and just go to town with aoe.

Furnaceface posted:

e: ^^^ I literally just bought it Thursday night before the Steam sale ended so I dont even have characters to log in to.

That could also be contributing to servers being slammed right now, forgot about the steam sale in all the hubbub.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:31

Stormgale: Feb 27, 2010

Doublestep posted:

MCH dps really shines once you get Rook and Bishop. Havent gotten Gauss yet but it's a 20% damage increase so

I did a Tam Tara Hard with a drk tank and me on MCH and it was insanely fast

How much % of our DPS is auto attacks though?

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:37

Captain Oblivious: Oct 12, 2007; I'm not like other posters

Furnaceface posted:

e: ^^^ I literally just bought it Thursday night before the Steam sale ended so I dont even have characters to log in to.

Yeah I know, Ive played WoW before during some of their big xpack launches. Im mostly just mad at myself for being a dweeb and thinking I still had a month before the expansion launched. Guess I cant be mad, the game itself was 50% off during the Steam sale so its not like it was a big money loss either.

Making a character on Excalibur is probably going to be literally impossible for a week. You're best off trying the game out on a less absurdly populated server/data center and either remaking or transferring here later

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:52

Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

That could also be contributing to servers being slammed right now, forgot about the steam sale in all the hubbub.

Like I said, its really just poor timing on my behalf. New expansion + Steam sale + weekend in a game that has been drawing in a lot of hype and attention away from the stagnating beast that is WoW. Im only going to have a few days left on my free month the next time I get some free time but it should be more than enough to see if I enjoy the game.

The character creation is top notch at least. I made one of those fat midget things and by the end it looked like he could be a member of Motorhead and that basically sold me anyway. :v:

Captain Oblivious posted:

Making a character on Excalibur is probably going to be literally impossible for a week. You're best off trying the game out on a less absurdly populated server/data center and either remaking or transferring here later

I was considering that but I wasnt sure if I lose anything by doing so since I used a random goons referral code thingy.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:55

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Did my first dungeon run with Bishop Turret and it's pretty awesome. I wish the TP/MP promotions on Rook and Bishop were swapped, though.

I'm one level away from Gauss Rifle. Just from looking at the ability, unless the charge times are really short and SE tones down the positional AoEs compared to the last raid tier, it's mostly going to be a solo tool or for trash AoE. Not that I'm complaining about more of either of those with how lackluster Grenado Shot is.

# ? Jun 20, 2015 19:58