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Jagchosis posted:Can you please quote this article or something, I can't get it to load and am instead getting advertisements for some kind of international money laundering service. That said I'm pretty sure Assange is a rapist I mean look at him It's a load of uncited nonsense about how Assange is really a nice guy and those charges were all made up or something because the Pentagon. Basically it's a lot of strawmen that were thoroughly debunked at the time of the original scandal.
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From 2008-2013 Felicity was the Senior Advisor to Australian Greens Senator Scott Ludlam, who held the Communications portfolio and successfully fought data retention and internet censorship proposals, as well as supporting Australian citizen Julian Assange. Prior to this she headed the UN Office for the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom, was a policy adviser at the UN Development Fund for Women and at Greenpeace International. http://www.thoughtworks.com/profiles/felicity-ruby
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Having qualifications doesn't prevent you from being wrong about poo poo.
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It was a pretty obvious smear campaign.
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It is perfectly normal for innocent people to rant about feminism gone mad when accused of rape. Oh poo poo what if this means Assange is part of the anti-Asssnge smear campaign? Hold on, fervently googling to see if there's a shoddy essay papering over this, can't let myself believe a bad thing about someone I've put on team good guy because we share an ideology.
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In other news, IS put out a new video that shows them executing prisoners accused of spying in Ninevah, Iraq by: 1. Loading prisoners into a locked car and then shooting it with an RPG 2. Lowering a cage full of prisoners into a pool and filming them with GoPros as they drown 3. Chaining prisoners together at the neck with detcord, then blowing them up. Obviously I'm not loving linking to this, but holy loving poo poo.
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suboptimal posted:In other news, IS put out a new video that shows them executing prisoners accused of spying in Ninevah, Iraq by: Man I can't wait for these to be rendered in the next super-topical CoD game. 
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Lawman 0 posted:Man I can't wait for these to be rendered in the next super-topical CoD game. Press F to activate GoPro.
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suboptimal posted:In other news, IS put out a new video that shows them executing prisoners accused of spying in Ninevah, Iraq by: ISIS is mostly made of people traumatized by Itchy and Scratchy isn't it?
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suboptimal posted:In other news, IS put out a new video that shows them executing prisoners accused of spying in Ninevah, Iraq by: I can't find the videos but I found a ton of screecaps...  . I found another one showing them pushing a guy off a tower because they thought he was gay. What the gently caress.
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Jun 23, 2015 16:14
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I'm beginning to think ISIS consists of bad people.
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Phlegmish posted:I'm beginning to think ISIS consists of bad people. I scrolled through planning to make this exact post.
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"I mean, Ameer, our flag has a sword on it and everything, and we are pretty violent. Are...are we the infidels?"
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I'm pretty sure a good chunk of ISIS members know that they're not very religiously justified, they just care more about feeling powerful than whether or not they're good Muslims. Obviously not all, but the idea that they all think this ridiculous bullshit is morally correct is just naive.
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suboptimal posted:In other news, IS put out a new video that shows them executing prisoners accused of spying in Ninevah, Iraq by: In other news, ISIS reenacts Right Wing wet dreams. Seriously, something's gotta give eventually.
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Jun 23, 2015 18:41
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Lawman 0 posted:Man I can't wait for these to be rendered in the next super-topical CoD game. I think this is life imitating art, I don't think CoD has anything more to contribute.
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Think of the psychological scars that are imprinted writ large on a society that grows up with an entire generation experiencing poo poo like this. It's like the Congo.
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Sergg posted:Think of the psychological scars that are imprinted writ large on a society that grows up with an entire generation experiencing poo poo like this. It's like the Congo. Getting to know people who variously grew up in violence-torn Armenia, Croatia, Slovenia, and other places really opened my eyes with respect to things that occurred while I was alive and breathing but completely unaware of. In most cases they are guys my age whose worldview has been shaped by war and by a lack of belief, as teens, that they may live until next week. Everyone should meet first-hand war survivors of their own age, it tempers the mind.
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ISIS has learnt the media gets pretty bored of head chopping, so they have to up the ante of perverted sadism in their videos in an attempt to stay in the news. Give them time and their videos will be indistinguishable from the Saw movies.
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Brown Moses posted:ISIS has learnt the media gets pretty bored of head chopping, so they have to up the ante of perverted sadism in their videos in an attempt to stay in the news. Give them time and their videos will be indistinguishable from the Saw movies. Human Centipede 4 will be a documentary. ... please tell me this hasn't already happened.
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I figured someone would post this or reference it - not the most reliable source but CNN and others are reporting that the Australian who took his family to join the caliphate and posed with his son holding a severed head has been killed in an airstrike. Makes you feel better about hearing/seeing horrible atrocities today. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/23/asia/australia-isis-sharrouf-elomar-killed/index.html
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Brown Moses posted:ISIS has learnt the media gets pretty bored of head chopping, so they have to up the ante of perverted sadism in their videos in an attempt to stay in the news. Give them time and their videos will be indistinguishable from the Saw movies. I can hear the trailer now. Hot Teen #1: C'mon, it's just a little hiking trip. Hot Teen #2: Where are we going, anyways? Hot Teen #1: Oh, you know...just over the border into Syria. Hot Teen #3: Wait, isn't that pretty dangerous? Stutter cut to black. From the twisted mind of Rob Zombie... Fangoria raves, "The freshest take on horror I've seen in a long, long time..." And it's a found footage movie, of course.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:the idea that they all think this ridiculous bullshit is morally correct is just naive. I seriously lol'd reading this post (who's naive?). I spent a lot of time talking to dudes like this and they totally believe it's morally correct and all in keeping with Islam. And every one of them can back it up with scripture, verse, and examples from Muhammed's campaigns.
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spacetoaster posted:I seriously lol'd reading this post (who's naive?). I spent a lot of time talking to dudes like this and they totally believe it's morally correct and all in keeping with Islam. And every one of them can back it up with scripture, verse, and examples from Muhammed's campaigns. Im really interested in reading scripture or historical documents where muhammed murdered prisoners of war or terrorized people just for shits and giggles.
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spacetoaster posted:I seriously lol'd reading this post (who's naive?). I spent a lot of time talking to dudes like this and they totally believe it's morally correct and all in keeping with Islam. And every one of them can back it up with scripture, verse, and examples from Muhammed's campaigns. ah yes the famous scripture where Muhammad put three people in a car and blew them away with RPGs
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It was one of the disputed hadiths
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Fizzil posted:Im really interested in reading scripture or historical documents where muhammed murdered prisoners of war I was about to mention the Qurayza tribe, but I looked it up and the legal situation was technically carrying out a death sentence imposed by a neutral arbitrator. It would still probably be considered genocide if it was done today, assuming it really did happen according to the traditional account. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Banu_Qurayza quote:or terrorized people just for shits and giggles. ISIS people probably rationalize that none of what they're doing is just for shits and giggles.
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spacetoaster posted:I seriously lol'd reading this post (who's naive?). I spent a lot of time talking to dudes like this and they totally believe it's morally correct and all in keeping with Islam. And every one of them can back it up with scripture, verse, and examples from Muhammed's campaigns. Nothing is universal. Some do, but it's pretty easy to break down their little facade of Islamic legitimacy and get them to start ranting about western propaganda and all the kinds of mental backflips that are required to make ISIS into heroic victimized crusaders rather than a middle eastern cartel. But there's other kinds as well. I've seen guys who only cared about getting sex slaves, and ISIS recruiters catch on and advertise to them specifically about that. There's also been a lot of prisoners who ran into psychopaths who were made into jailers that were the kid who tortured animals when he was younger and just wanted to express his depraved mind in an environment that allows it. That schizophrenic dude from Australia was one of those. ISIS accepts them all with open arms, even the ones who couldn't tell you who Mohammed was. That can be taught later. There's definitely some who cling desperately to the idea that ISIS are bringing about real Islam, but there's also plenty who couldn't give less of a gently caress about that, including, arguably, their leaders.
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My favorite example was when shami witness was claiming the reports about yazidi sex slaves were a propaganda campaign to make ISIS look bad. How could anyone believe something like that, ISIS would never do that because they're good Muslims, etc. Then ISIS admitted it in Dabiq and found some obscure sentence in the Quran to justify it, and without missing a beat, shami was defending their right to do it. I went round and round with that piece of poo poo.
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I wonder if the sex-motivated ones realize that this isn't going to be the sultan's harem, on silks cushions covered in lounging virgins. They get the privilege of paying to rape some poor woman on a filthy mattress in the open air, in line behind a hundred of the Caliph's finest. It's hard to believe that someone could be so motivated by sex that they wouldn't stay at home and just hire a prostitute if they knew the truth.
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Its not about the sex. The blood stained mattress with the screaming woman is a plus.
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TheBalor posted:I wonder if the sex-motivated ones realize that this isn't going to be the sultan's harem, on silks cushions covered in lounging virgins. They get the privilege of paying to rape some poor woman on a filthy mattress in the open air, in line behind a hundred of the Caliph's finest. It's hard to believe that someone could be so motivated by sex that they wouldn't stay at home and just hire a prostitute if they knew the truth. Some want wives out of the deal, and ISIS can offer that too.
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In Libya, UN envoys are meeting with armed groups to promote a drafted peace agreement. This has coincided with municipal authorities in Western Libya agreeing to ceasefires and other methods of de-escalation. However, a brigade of Islamist militants recently broke off from the main force that controls Tripoli in rejection of peace talks. There's also of course ISIS, which has been under heavy assault by a coalition of rival Islamist militias in Derna, and subjected to heavy air strikes by the Libyan Dawn (Tripoli) in Sirte. edit: According to the The Mujahedeen Council of Derna ISIS has been run out of all but the Eastern Fataeh district of Derna Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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spacetoaster posted:I seriously lol'd reading this post (who's naive?). I spent a lot of time talking to dudes like this and they totally believe it's morally correct and all in keeping with Islam. And every one of them can back it up with scripture, verse, and examples from Muhammed's campaigns. Didn't you find it weird that so many ahadith are about how moms shouldn't bother their adolescent sons when they are playing FIFA 15?
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https://twitter.com/zaidbenjamin/status/613404178032009216Zaid Benjamin posted:#Iraq | #ISIL Spokesman Adnani offers a ceasefire with all groups in #Syria #Libya "Leave us to fight the crusaders & the Zionists" If that is accurate that is loving hilarious. We will probably be hearing about this for ages from YPG videos even if it isn't true. quote:#Iraq | #ISIL Spokesman Adnani says #Obama is the first leader in the history to use the term "Tactical setback" "We promise you more"  https://twitter.com/CizireCanton/status/613391262025170945 YPG is closing the salient they created to the South of Tal Abyad. Torpor fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jun 24, 2015 |
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In some good news, the Kurds/FSA are continuing to move south, and are probably going to have the entire M4 highway up to Lake Assad completely under Kurdish/FSA control very soon. In bad news, everyone's already discussed the fact that ISIL has decided the movie Saw is a useful documentary. I really don't have anything else to say other than "here's why ISIL are the bad guys, please keep bombing them thank you very much". 
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ISIS is exactly the sort of group that should not be given a ceasefire, assuming that's real.
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fade5 posted:In some good news, the Kurds/FSA are continuing to move south, and are probably going to have the entire M4 highway up to Lake Assad completely under Kurdish/FSA control very soon. They also pushed south to seize the M4 just to the east of that map. Edit: or no, the map shows that, it just isn't indicated with an arrow. whoops 
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Torpor posted:https://twitter.com/zaidbenjamin/status/613404178032009216 Summary of the speech given by Adnani. Sounds more like a call for submission than a ceasefire
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:It was one of the disputed hadiths I didn't think Ibn Ishaq was in dispute. Fizzil posted:Im really interested in reading scripture or historical documents where muhammed murdered prisoners of war or terrorized people just for shits and giggles. lol, so you agree that he murdered them though? Mans posted:ah yes the famous scripture where Muhammad put three people in a car and blew them away with RPGs Dilkington posted:Didn't you find it weird that so many ahadith are about how moms shouldn't bother their adolescent sons when they are playing FIFA 15? Looks like I struck a nerve. Why do you guys feel so compelled to defend these guys?
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