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Yolomancer posted:I still think a hybrid approach is better than just admin coring or just diplo-annexing, particularly when say you're trying to complete a diplomatic idea group, or you need to get more diplomacy tech for trade or colonisation. This is always what I've done. I take the territory I want NOW directly, and I leave stuff I don't need now for vassals. Or in the case of like, Brandenburg, I just vassalize them because they make a great march or something.
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I've played for so long without Ironman because of my lovely PC where autosaves took a minute or so that now I can't break the habit of playing on 5 speed constantly. 5 speed was as fast as 3 speed is now lol. I need to try and slow myself down.
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Jun 23, 2015 07:23
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Yeah. I guess when it comes down to it, I don't need the Steam achievement to know I've successfully accomplished one. Ironman just slows the game down, and if I choose to reload, I'm only ruining it for myself. But of course I don't reload, since it's largely unnecessary and ruins a lot of the enjoyment of the game. Maybe I'll just forget Ironman and set myself free.
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Jun 23, 2015 08:41
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Except for rapidly growing sweden over there, this is probably the best possible TO start I could have gotten. Poland and Lithuania never even formed a union, and Lithuania got dogpiled by me/crimea/muscovy and exploded into rebels. Then Novgorod ate Muscovy while they were overextended. My only concern is Crimea sniping Russian Region provinces. But then again Ottos have only conquered Byzantines and two Anatolian cores so maybe that wont be such a big deal. Pomerania and LO are my vassals.
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Jun 23, 2015 15:35
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Sweden got giant in my game and formed Scandinavia really early, but I killed their whole navy and have been kicking their rear end frequently...my problem is probably going to be strong Crimea too.
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Jun 23, 2015 15:46
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Larry Parrish posted:Except for rapidly growing sweden over there, this is probably the best possible TO start I could have gotten. Poland and Lithuania never even formed a union, and Lithuania got dogpiled by me/crimea/muscovy and exploded into rebels. Then Novgorod ate Muscovy while they were overextended. My only concern is Crimea sniping Russian Region provinces. But then again Ottos have only conquered Byzantines and two Anatolian cores so maybe that wont be such a big deal. What year is it?
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Jun 23, 2015 15:48
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I don;t understand why you would feed the LO too...integrate those motherfuckers asap and get a border with russia.
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Jun 23, 2015 15:50
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Knuc U Kinte posted:I don;t understand why you would feed the LO too...integrate those motherfuckers asap and get a border with russia. I was already annexing them and figured 'why not save some ADM while I'm at it' PleasingFungus posted:What year is it? I was in HRE by 1447... vassalized LO and Pomerania in by 1454 (i was kinda distracted by Lithuania and Poland deciding i looked vulnerable in the middle of the LO war). It's like 1480 in that screenshot. I slowed down a shitload because Sweden, Novgorod, Chernogorv, Lithuania, and Poland are all allied to eachother... I'm looking for cracks but its getting hard. I might have to snake my way towards Denmark to get a leg up on them. But I have 387 development in 1498 which is better than the AI has done so far so hey progress.
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Jun 23, 2015 16:13
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Sweden got giant in my game and formed Scandinavia really early, but I killed their whole navy and have been kicking their rear end frequently...my problem is probably going to be strong Crimea too. I started a new vicky 2 game as prussia->north germans and sweden formed scandinavia and now them, austria and france are hankering to gently caress my rear end
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Jun 23, 2015 16:26
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I can still beat those bozos when they come three at a time though because great britain watches my coastal back since i maxed relations and allied. Near close to boot Austria out of the 8 powers and form germany
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Jun 23, 2015 16:28
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Larry Parrish posted:Except for rapidly growing sweden over there, this is probably the best possible TO start I could have gotten. Poland and Lithuania never even formed a union, and Lithuania got dogpiled by me/crimea/muscovy and exploded into rebels. Then Novgorod ate Muscovy while they were overextended. My only concern is Crimea sniping Russian Region provinces. But then again Ottos have only conquered Byzantines and two Anatolian cores so maybe that wont be such a big deal. What mods are you using? That map is beautiful, especially the no-borders.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:50
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ttheu ninstall mod
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Jun 23, 2015 20:21
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PleasingFungus posted:What year is it? 2015.
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Pewdiepie posted:2015. Thank you! However, it will always be 1453 in my heart.
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Jun 23, 2015 21:53
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Fuligin posted:What mods are you using? That map is beautiful, especially the no-borders. Illusory Flat Political Map. It makes terrain seem to not show up. Sometimes it's buggy with certain map colors like Savoy in mountain areas. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=317529391&searchtext=flat It makes some tag colors pop out a bit better, and it's not actually a flat map mod. It's just a custom shader. If you really love the TBRAW White Font it works with this map mod.
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Jun 23, 2015 22:15
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Average Bear posted:How do you keep Italy in the HRE? Taking Venice pissed a lot of people off and the Pope always has powerful allies You have to take all of the kingdom of Italy crap which isnt in the HRE before 1490 or 80 or whatever insane date. It doesn't seem worth it at all. Eating Venice is a necessity but loving with the Papacy that early is usually a pain in the rear end because all the big Catholics like to ally them
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Jun 23, 2015 22:38
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:I started a new vicky 2 game as prussia->north germans and sweden formed scandinavia and now them, austria and france are hankering to gently caress my rear end 4 front wars in Vicky 2 as Germany are really fun to my insane mind and also proof that encirclement was real and Kaiser Wilhelm was right
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Jun 23, 2015 22:40
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Yolomancer posted:Yeah. I guess when it comes down to it, I don't need the Steam achievement to know I've successfully accomplished one. Ironman just slows the game down, and if I choose to reload, I'm only ruining it for myself. But of course I don't reload, since it's largely unnecessary and ruins a lot of the enjoyment of the game. Maybe I'll just forget Ironman and set myself free. I don't really have any chieves cause my comp is insanely lovely so the game is slow enough without me turning on Ironman. Also cause I like to run a few defines modifications (fill in wasteland and sometimes ai chooses ideas though I haven't turned that back on since it led to some idiotic stuff like Portugal not taking exploration as idea 1)
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Jun 23, 2015 22:43
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The only thing I hate about Common Sense is manpower.. I already didn't use mercs much because I was retarded, but now I have to teach myself to keep a lot sitting around and update them with tech and poo poo.
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Jun 23, 2015 22:54
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I've loved mercs since day one and thought making them viable was one of the best changes in EU4. And also makes sense thematically since they were such a big deal at the time. Well I think they were kind of viable in a pinch in EU2. I definitely remember insanely spamming mercs as the Dutch thanks to my broken income.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:09
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im still mad as balls hoi4 got delayed
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Jun 24, 2015 00:54
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Stairmaster posted:im still mad as balls hoi4 got delayed I don't really like WW2 that much. Hell i'll probably get it. I was stupid enough to buy Sengoku
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Jun 24, 2015 00:57
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TO 2nd level sprites look cool. Platemail and muskets. Badass.
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Jun 24, 2015 01:31
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Crimea converted to Orthodox because of rebels. Kazan is westernizing but is out of points as far as I can tell and keeps getting 0/0/0 rulers. They are pretty much carpet sieged constantly. Novgorod has no allies left because Scandinavia rivaled them. I think I'm gonna beat you to it Yolo.
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Jun 24, 2015 02:17
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DICKHEAD posted:I don't really like WW2 that much. Hell i'll probably get it. I was stupid enough to buy Sengoku ditto, ditto, ditto.
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Jun 24, 2015 02:24
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Marenghi posted:Ironman is a good way to test your patience with this games random events.
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Jun 24, 2015 02:44
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Larry Parrish posted:Crimea converted to Orthodox because of rebels. Kazan is westernizing but is out of points as far as I can tell and keeps getting 0/0/0 rulers. They are pretty much carpet sieged constantly. Novgorod has no allies left because Scandinavia rivaled them. I think I'm gonna beat you to it Yolo. Are you talking to me? Pretty sure he's not doing Baltic Crusader.
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Jun 24, 2015 02:44
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Are you talking to me? Pretty sure he's not doing Baltic Crusader. He did it already. I meant I was going to beat him to it because I'm like a third done with the Russian Region 100 years ahead of him.
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Larry Parrish posted:He did it already. I meant I was going to beat him to it because I'm like a third done with the Russian Region 100 years ahead of him. Did he? I thought he was doing holy trinity.
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Jun 24, 2015 04:41
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OK, yeah, peacetime manpower recovery is probably too slow this patch. Max manpower of 75k and recovery of 666... christ. I'm at a third of my force limit, just because i don't have the manpower to build anything...
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Jun 24, 2015 04:50
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It makes quality a good idea group and mercs even more necessary. I like it.
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it's a nice change but it means that admin and quality are pretty much the best general-purpose idea groups in the game which is a bit lame.
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BBJoey posted:it's a nice change but it means that admin and quality are pretty much the best general-purpose idea groups in the game which is a bit lame. I like when Paradox makes expansion harder but I don't like it when the really good idea groups just get better.
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DICKHEAD posted:I don't really have any chieves cause my comp is insanely lovely so the game is slow enough without me turning on Ironman. Also cause I like to run a few defines modifications (fill in wasteland and sometimes ai chooses ideas though I haven't turned that back on since it led to some idiotic stuff like Portugal not taking exploration as idea 1) If it's good enough for hay man it's good enough for me!
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Jun 24, 2015 07:38
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Anyway here's the last screenshot I took before the game was over. I did it, please believe me.
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Jun 24, 2015 07:38
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Hay man is my rival.
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Jun 24, 2015 07:56
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Larry Parrish posted:He did it already. I meant I was going to beat him to it because I'm like a third done with the Russian Region 100 years ahead of him. Yeah, what are you talking about? I was doing Holy Trinity, not Baltic Crusader.
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I don't have a problem with any of this, sometimes RNG falls in your favour, sometimes it doesn't. What I do have a problem is that now two of my Ironman saves have converted to local saves, without any warning to me.
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Yolomancer posted:I don't have a problem with any of this, sometimes RNG falls in your favour, sometimes it doesn't. What I do have a problem is that now two of my Ironman saves have converted to local saves, without any warning to me. Yeah it was just an example of how games posters approach playing these games. I'm in the same boat as you with the ironman switch thing and I think there's something specific that causes I might have fixed to rectify it. It was a fairly common problem a year ago so perhaps Google might have some answers if you care about ironman.
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