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Karma Monkey
Sep 6, 2005

I MAKE BAD POSTING DECISIONS

Postal Parcel posted:

And wow, I'm surprised that movies now show fisting.

Never saw Caligula, huh? Lucky you.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Karma Monkey posted:

Never saw Caligula, huh? Lucky you.

I wonder how Malcolm McDowell feels about that film in his twilight years.

Honestly it seems like Malcolm McDowell just doesn't give a gently caress about anything. "Movie directed by Penthouse? Sign me up dude."

Although I heard that ~that scene~ in clockwork orange almost cost him his vision and was painful.

Karma Monkey
Sep 6, 2005

I MAKE BAD POSTING DECISIONS

Zaphod42 posted:

I wonder how Malcolm McDowell feels about that film in his twilight years.

Honestly it seems like Malcolm McDowell just doesn't give a gently caress about anything. "Movie directed by Penthouse? Sign me up dude."

Although I heard that ~that scene~ in clockwork orange almost cost him his vision and was painful.

Yea, scratched his corneas up something fierce or something like that. I also get the impression that he gives no fucks. Given his looks, the number of nude scenes and sex scenes he has gotten to do is pretty impressive, really. Granted most of them were horrific torture porn, but eh, money spends the same.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Ignite Memories posted:

Seriously. Marketers don't like talking about it, but Millenials are loving broke and saddled with huge amounts of debt. Maybe Gen Y'ers want expensive organic artisanal ingredients and poo poo, but Millenials just want more pizza than the other guy will give them for the same price.

The dumb move in marketing I saw from pizza hut was getting an ad that said

"$11 ANY pizza. Yes, you read that right. ANY Pizza."

*Additional charge for stuffed crust.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Tunicate posted:

The dumb move in marketing I saw from pizza hut was getting an ad that said

"$11 ANY pizza. Yes, you read that right. ANY Pizza."

*Additional charge for stuffed crust.

Especially since everybody knows that stuffed crust is the only reason you even get Pizza Hutt.

Its like Jack in the Box charging extra for curly fries. You fuckers know that's the only reason I even come here!

Postal Parcel
Aug 2, 2013

Karma Monkey posted:

Never saw Caligula, huh? Lucky you.

Oh, never seen it.
But, did that movie advertise the fisting on a poster?

Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel
The thing with Whole Foods starting a new chain to target Millennials seems like something of a bad idea. It looks like it might have the effect of lessening the emphasis on the main brand, in an already crowded market. Here in Austin anyway there are no shortage of places to get organic food for reasonable prices, most notably Central Market I suppose. Who knows though, maybe they'll successfully find and target undeserved markets.

Postal Parcel
Aug 2, 2013
Considering what many people think millennial means, one would think that Whole Foods already has that market down pat and doesn't need another store.

Karma Monkey
Sep 6, 2005

I MAKE BAD POSTING DECISIONS

Postal Parcel posted:

Oh, never seen it.
But, did that movie advertise the fisting on a poster?

Kind of. It was a big picture of a dude with bleeding eyes. So, they didn't advertise the fisting per se, just the effects of watching it. :psypop:

thewireguy
Jul 2, 2013

Karma Monkey posted:

Wow, I thought only the US did classy stuff like that. Apologies if this was covered before, but here's an article on lots of 9/11 advertising:

Marketers Again Mistakenly Think 9/11 Is a Good Brand-Building Moment

Fleshlight, really? Somebody Photoshop two of those with a plane crashing into them.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Zaphod42 posted:

I wonder how Malcolm McDowell feels about that film in his twilight years.

Honestly it seems like Malcolm McDowell just doesn't give a gently caress about anything. "Movie directed by Penthouse? Sign me up dude."

Although I heard that ~that scene~ in clockwork orange almost cost him his vision and was painful.

All the really pornographic stuff was shot without the cast's knowledge, or even the director's. Lots of names were taken off when the final product was unveiled.

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005
Dude was in Tank Girl. He gives no fucks.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

The difference is that usually, in a somewhat competent company or agency, someone will be there to step in and go "hey, uh, that kinda looks like a swastika" or "that imagery evokes a penis pointing at the client's head" or whatever.
There's a story here of a goon who managed to accidentally let an GIS of an erect Jolly Green Giant for a supermarket brochure get into print. He was let off as it had been past the eyes of several others and no one noticed.
Misspellings are another great one in rush-to-print, "sweat treats" or "heart-punding adventure" are two I've witnessed.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

Ryoshi posted:

So Nvidia had a recent promotion where you could buy one of their graphics cards and receive hotly anticipated title BATMAN: ARKHAM KNIGHT (tm) for free. This was meant to show off Nvidia's recent cards and how well they run even graphically intensive new games, and developer Rocksteady got a lot of free advertising out of it.

Except, whoops, turns out Rocksteady outsourced the PC port so now this massive flagship title meant to push graphics card sales sputters on high end cards and is locked into 30fps by default. Now both companies look pretty incompetent for pushing it so hard.

Seriously, words cannot express the schadenfreude involved here. I love Rocksteady, and tbh at this point I prefer Nvidia over AMD, but watching these two collaborate on a video game deal with a game that can't even run on the higher-end graphics cards it comes bundled with is loving beautiful. :allears:

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme
On the other hand I like Dave Lang and I don't want the whole Internet poo poo on Iron Galaxy. :(

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

death .cab for qt posted:

Seriously, words cannot express the schadenfreude involved here. I love Rocksteady, and tbh at this point I prefer Nvidia over AMD, but watching these two collaborate on a video game deal with a game that can't even run on the higher-end graphics cards it comes bundled with is loving beautiful. :allears:

Not only that, but the game genuinely runs better on CONSOLES than PC. Those consoles that cost the same as just those graphics cards alone.

Overminty
Mar 16, 2010

You may wonder what I am doing while reading your posts..

Cross post from the football pics thread

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

pookel posted:

I just assumed it was Leslie Nielsen. That might improve the movie.

Yes, I too enjoy spooky skeletons.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together
Liverpool also pissed people off by having Dunkin Donuts make a logo homage that replaced the flames on the crests with iced coffees. The flames are in memory of the 96 Liverpool fans who died in a stadium disaster.

Karma Monkey
Sep 6, 2005

I MAKE BAD POSTING DECISIONS

Overminty posted:

Cross post from the football pics thread

But, but, but his hair is different! hahahahahaha Subway, you silly dilly.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Speaking of donuts and marketing disasters, here in Australia Donut King decided a great idea would be to have a commercial featuring former politician Pauline Hanson.

For those not in the know, she was a chip-shop owner turned leader of a far-right wing party who declared Australia was to be swamped by Asians and anyone coming from South Africa was guaranteed to have AIDS. Her very insular views and thick as bricks comments did strike a chord with "everyday" voters and propelled her into parliament before her party disintegrated and her ending up arrested for electoral fraud.

Somewhere after that bloodbath she tried to regain her political power and I suspect spruiking donuts was an attempt to get back into line with the voting public. The ad firm's excuse was that they were focusing on people who had their five minutes of fame, such as former Big Brother contestants and ex-weather reporters.
Needless to say the Australian public found the whole concept surreal and the ad quietly vanished.

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/obamacare-boosters-memes-101352.html

Poorly-done marketing aimed at millennials? "BROSURANCE" anyone?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
There's been a kerfuffle over Destiny, Bungie's latest game lately, because they announced the next DLC/expansion is $40 (twice the cost of the first two) but doesn't quite seem worth it, as well as a $80 collector's edition with several exclusive items you can't get anywhere else. Collector's editions with exclusives are nothing new in gaming, but for a game that's been out a whole year that's kinda messed up. People who are loyal fans who bought the game at launch and got both DLC already would have to buy the game a second time, including both DLC, just to get the exclusives.

There was an interview to discuss these issues as well as the European pricing being an inappropriate direct conversion ($40 = £40 right?? $80 = £80?? no??) which seemed remarkably tone deaf and came across as smug and money-grubbing while dismissing concerns:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-22-destiny-the-taken-king-director-defends-40-expansion-price-tag

And then, with the fanbase already frustrated and grumbling loudly on the internet, they announced this today:



:master:

Forbes is scathing:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/06/22/bungies-disastrous-taken-king-interview-could-have-ramifications-for-destiny/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/06/24/destiny-announces-ill-timed-red-bull-exclusive-quest-for-the-taken-king/

Zaphod42 has a new favorite as of 16:50 on Jun 24, 2015

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

Zaphod42 posted:

There's been a kerfuffle over Destiny, Bungie's latest game lately, because they announced the next DLC/expansion is $40 (twice the cost of the first two) but doesn't quite seem worth it, as well as a $80 collector's edition with several exclusive items you can't get anywhere else. Collector's editions with exclusives are nothing new in gaming, but for a game that's been out a whole year that's kinda messed up. People who are loyal fans who bought the game at launch and got both DLC already would have to buy the game a second time, including both DLC, just to get the exclusives.

There was an interview to discuss these issues as well as the European pricing being an inappropriate direct conversion ($40 = £40 right?? $80 = £80?? no??) which seemed remarkably tone deaf and came across as smug and money-grubbing while dismissing concerns:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-22-destiny-the-taken-king-director-defends-40-expansion-price-tag

And then, with the fanbase already frustrated and grumbling loudly on the internet, they announced this today:



:master:

Forbes is scathing:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/06/22/bungies-disastrous-taken-king-interview-could-have-ramifications-for-destiny/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/06/24/destiny-announces-ill-timed-red-bull-exclusive-quest-for-the-taken-king/





quote:

“If I fired up a video right now and showed you the emotes you would throw money at the screen,”

I really like reading this thread, it's one of my favourites, but *gently caress* all this stuff about emotes/emoticons has made me realise, yep, I am now out of that 18-34 age range (35 this year :downs: ) I just don't understand why anyone would get THAT excited about emoticons.

quidditch it and quit it
Oct 11, 2012


“I’m really excited to be a part of this partnership,” said Michael “Flamesword” Chaves, Red Bull eSport athlete. “I love that Red Bull and Destiny have a shared sense of adventure, camaraderie, and pushing boundaries that both brands embody.”

loving hell dude. Suck your master's moneycock. Embrace the feeling, for soon it will be all that you know.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Rondette posted:

I really like reading this thread, it's one of my favourites, but *gently caress* all this stuff about emotes/emoticons has made me realise, yep, I am now out of that 18-34 age range (35 this year :downs: ) I just don't understand why anyone would get THAT excited about emoticons.

Its not even that fans are necessarily going crazy to get the emotes though as much as a developer is saying in an interview "heh, if I showed you these right now you'd totally throw money at the screen"

Bungie's community manager later posted "well all the physical collector's editions have sold out, so clearly some people found the value in it :smuggo: oh but I guess that wasn't the point"

Its just the most blatant "gently caress you, loyal customers" I've seen in awhile. :stare:

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


de la peche posted:

“I’m really excited to be a part of this partnership,” said Michael “Flamesword” Chaves, Red Bull eSport athlete. “I love that Red Bull and Destiny have a shared sense of adventure, camaraderie, and pushing boundaries that both brands embody.”

loving hell dude. Suck your master's moneycock. Embrace the feeling, for soon it will be all that you know.

Destiny, a game well known for pushing boundaries.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

I can't even imagine what emotes would make me throw money at the screen - we already have sitting, waving, pointing and dancing, and there's not a who lot of situations where flipping the bird would work in game. I think I'm set.

many johnnys
May 17, 2015

Ryoshi posted:

I can't even imagine what emotes would make me throw money at the screen - we already have sitting, waving, pointing and dancing, and there's not a who lot of situations where flipping the bird would work in game. I think I'm set.

The new emotes will allow player avatars to throw money at screens

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

de la peche posted:

“I’m really excited to be a part of this partnership,” said Michael “Flamesword” Chaves, Red Bull eSport athlete. “I love that Red Bull and Destiny have a shared sense of adventure, camaraderie, and pushing boundaries that both brands embody.”

loving hell dude. Suck your master's moneycock. Embrace the feeling, for soon it will be all that you know.

Funny you put it that way, this came to mind instantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovc-O_z4daQ

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Ryoshi posted:

I can't even imagine what emotes would make me throw money at the screen - we already have sitting, waving, pointing and dancing, and there's not a who lot of situations where flipping the bird would work in game. I think I'm set.

Says the man on comedy forum something awful dot com where thirty dollars were spent to create a single line: :phoneline:

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Ryoshi posted:

I can't even imagine what emotes would make me throw money at the screen - we already have sitting, waving, pointing and dancing, and there's not a who lot of situations where flipping the bird would work in game. I think I'm set.

Someone, break this down for me. So Destiny fans are mad that Bungie are bringing out a collector's edition containing three new emotes (which I assume are canned animations of a few seconds each), and they're upset that to get them they'd have to pay $80. They see it as a rip-off because they've already bought the game & dlc and don't want to rebuy content they own.

Perhaps I'm missing something enormous here, but why don't they just not buy it if they don't think it's worth the money? They're just silly animations right?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Someone, break this down for me. So Destiny fans are mad that Bungie are bringing out a collector's edition containing three new emotes (which I assume are canned animations of a few seconds each), and they're upset that to get them they'd have to pay $80.

Perhaps I'm missing something enormous here, but why don't they just not buy it if they don't think it's worth the money?

I already did, but here goes again.

The reason its $80 is because its the new stuff plus the base game plus the two expansions that are already out.

Anybody who is a fan already bought the base game, the first expansion and the second expansion. The new expansion is $40. If they simply sold a collector's edition for existing fans that didn't include the base game and first two expansions for $50 everybody would be happy. If they sold the collector's edition items separately for $10-$20 everybody would be happy.

Its forcing people to buy something you already sold them to get something else which is really loving frustrating. And again, their response was "well it already sold out so gently caress you, we're getting paid."

And again, its infinitely worse for European players because its £80. That's $125 USD for what should cost $40-50 USD.

If Destiny was a brand new game people would happily buy it with the emotes for $80, but its not. People already own the game. Making people buy it again just to get these exclusives is a real dick move. And those exclusives appeal more to long-term players than new players. Its just bad marketing.


loving :lol: Norton.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Zaphod42 posted:

Its forcing people to buy something you already sold them to get something else which is really loving frustrating. And again, their response was "well it already sold out so gently caress you, we're getting paid."

How are they forcing people to do anything?!

I feel old.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Mr. Flunchy posted:

How are they forcing people to do anything?!

I feel old.

Sorry I used the wrong language but you could really guess what I mean. :v:

They are making it so that the only way to get those things is to buy them in a bundle with other things you already own.

Clearly they're not forcing you, my loving bad.

You guys are some serious corporate apologists acting like this kind of abusive business practice is totally fine and we're all being babies.

"Want a new remote key for your car? The only way we sell them is bundled with radiators."

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Zaphod42 posted:

Sorry I used the wrong language but you could really guess what I mean. :v:

They are making it so that the only way to get those things is to buy them in a bundle with other things you already own.

Clearly they're not forcing you, my loving bad.

You guys are some serious corporate apologists acting like this kind of abusive business practice is totally fine and we're all being babies.

"Want a new remote key for your car? The only way we sell them is bundled with radiators."

We're talking about three canned animations like this right?



I mean... is this really worth getting upset about?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Mr. Flunchy posted:

We're talking about three canned animations like this right?



I mean... is this really worth getting upset about?

The Red Bull thing is about an exclusive mission, and who knows what else there is.

And no, its not just that. There's also items that give you huge XP boosts. Its pretty hosed up.

They're getting made fun of already by other game companies:



Just posted to the official Dying Light twitter account.

Postal Parcel
Aug 2, 2013

Rondette posted:

I really like reading this thread, it's one of my favourites, but *gently caress* all this stuff about emotes/emoticons has made me realise, yep, I am now out of that 18-34 age range (35 this year :downs: ) I just don't understand why anyone would get THAT excited about emoticons.

Reminder that one of the earliest(?) DLCs came from Bethesda and was nothing but horse armor. No stats, no quests, just a visual change.
Gamers will buy anything

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Zaphod42 posted:

The Red Bull thing is about an exclusive mission, and who knows what else there is.

And no, its not just that. There's also items that give you huge XP boosts. Its pretty hosed up.

They're getting made fun of already by other game companies:



Just posted to the official Dying Light twitter account.

So buy a $1.99 can of Red Bull for the mission and the boost? I'd rather do that than pay $20 for a mission and a few gun upgrades anyway.

I swear, some people will whine about anything. If you can't live without a few more emotes to the point where you're even considering dropping the cash to rebuy the game to get them the problem is absolutely not on Activision's side.

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