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CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

Davincie posted:

fire emblem is an srpg series with a long history of incest

It really is the Japanese Crusader Kings.

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Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

LawfulWaffle posted:

Goddamn Japan. Is this poo poo some sort of design by committee problem, where executives understand that Japanese gamers spend more money the more pervy the game, so they make breasts larger and skirts shorter, reveal more skin and give you the option to grope without regard to familial status along with highly suggestive language that all but provides the money shot. God bless them for innovating and providing spank material for lonely people around the world, but why inject it into a SRPG with a long history and dedicated fans? Where there really that many people upset that their turn-based skirmish simulator didn't have enough waifu fantasy material? I'm sure Nintendo of America's going to have a great time sandblasting that content out before it his stateside.

e: How's the gameplay in Criminal Girls?

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Motto posted:

In that case I think it'd be better to modify/remove the armor since I'm pretty sure "young prodigy" is that character's whole thing. Plus bikini outfits in RPGs always look dumb or out of place, and there are already better "joke" armors in XBX (like sweaters).
Are they tacky holiday sweaters? I would play any RPG where I could put tacky holiday sweaters on my party

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

LawfulWaffle posted:

When people bring up Nintendo making content modification in the past, are they referring to something more than the whole "no religious iconography" stance that turned crosses into stars or whatever? Or not releasing Captain Rainbow because of Birdo's dildo, character ages in certain games, or other things? Genuinely curious as I feel like I'm missing the reference.

Or is it more along these lines


e: not that Captain Rainbow wasn't localized for other, completely legit reasons.

The SNES version of Mortal Kombat had no blood.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

ImpAtom posted:

Like Hitler had a child with Satan.
so, still better than ni no kuni?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Sakurazuka posted:

The SNES version of Mortal Kombat had no blood.
What's funny about that to me is that the music/sound effects for MK1 are unacceptably bad on the Genesis.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Quest For Glory II posted:

Are they tacky holiday sweaters? I would play any RPG where I could put tacky holiday sweaters on my party

You can see it on Lin a few seconds after 39:00, it's a striped purple/red.

https://youtu.be/UcMkczoRMTU

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
When a million h-games exist, I don't really get why there's any desire to put that stuff into games centered around moving knights around a map to beat evil wizards instead of sex appeal. Although, when they do it, equal opportunity stuff goes a long way toward making it feel less anachronistic and gross.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

people like sex appeal, but a lot aren't willing to buy entire games solely for sex appeal. there's also something to be said for the fact that games that have fanservice tend to have elements other than fanservice, while hentai games are usually just porn. a sexy lady that you connect with as a character is going to sell more merch than a sexy lady who has five lines.

also, teenagers who can't buy outright porn games, people who just don't like porn but are perfectly appreciative of big titties, etc etc. there's tons of reasons.

also i dont think sex is really anachronistic.

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

Endorph posted:

RPG thread: how's the gameplay in criminal girls?

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
fire emblem, the classic rape pornography franchise

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
What exactly does the rub girl minigame give you anyway? Support points or something?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Rascyc posted:

What exactly does the rub girl minigame give you anyway? Support points or something?

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug
awakening was more anime than the rest of the series combined and sold gangbusters, so obviously the masses have spoken and They Want Anime and nintendo would be foolish to remove anything that could lessen the Overall Anime Experience

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

MotU posted:

awakening was more anime than the rest of the series combined and sold gangbusters, so obviously the masses have spoken and They Want Anime and nintendo would be foolish to remove anything that could lessen the Overall Anime Experience
this but without even the possibility of irony

edit: minus the first part

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

Endorph posted:

this but without even the possibility of irony

edit: minus the first part

I am not being ironic at all I am 100% behind rubbing my big titted anime step-sister

charlotte best girl tho

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Eh then who cares

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Rascyc posted:

What exactly does the rub girl minigame give you anyway? Support points or something?

You can also rub the men, for what it's worth.

Factory Davey
Jan 9, 2010

I am aware of what the hands look like. I did my best. :(

ImpAtom posted:

I said this in the Fire Emblem thread but while I'm not thrilled by this stuff, the "this is completely new, why IS?!" argument kind of died when goddamn Nowi existed and was the worst character ever.

Kind of hate this logic. "Parts of their previous work was lovely, so don't be upset when their new work is also lovely!"

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Baltazar Robotnik posted:

Kind of hate this logic. "Parts of their previous work was lovely, so don't be upset when their new work is also lovely!"

That isn't what I said though. You're fine to be upset. Being surprised however is pretty silly. I've unironically seen people who bought bathing suit themed DLC for Fire Emblem Awakening acting surprised that the new game doubles down on that. I'm not thrilled by it when you literally buy bathing suit DLC for the previous game, don't act surprised when that influences what the developers try to sell.

I'm not thrilled by it myself and I'm legitimately hoping the translation tones it down but the writing was on the wall for this from the moment Awakening did gangbusters for its Anime Waifu Elements as much as (if not more than) it's tactical gameplay.

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 25, 2015

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

I'm struggling to think of a Fire Emblem game that didn't have incest.
Fire Emblem 4 and 8 had full on blood related incest too though it was more subtly implied in 8, I think every other game does the "not blood related siblings so it's still weird as gently caress but you won't end up with retard babies" shtick.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

all, really

FE8 didn't even have 'subtly implied'

the twins were close because they were twins you weirdo

and fe4 had incest... as part of the awful master plan by the fantasy nazijews that were trying to destroy the world

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Mr. Fortitude posted:

I'm struggling to think of a Fire Emblem game that didn't have incest.
Fire Emblem 4 and 8 had full on blood related incest too though it was more subtly implied in 8, I think every other game does the "not blood related siblings so it's still weird as gently caress but you won't end up with retard babies" shtick.

4. That's the game with incest. Explicitly hosed-up incest for the villain's purposes.

If you look at 8 and see "hm these siblings who show familial love obvs wanna bone" that's on you, dude.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Guys, Kanji is gay and Naoto has transgender issues and Chie is a sadist

wait a minute

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN_6uuaK5gM

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

in fe4 eldigan's sister loves him that way. they're step-siblings but w/e.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Tae posted:

Guys, Kanji is gay and Naoto has transgender issues and Chie is a sadist

wait a minute

The first two are true drat it....

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

GulagDolls posted:

in fe4 eldigan's sister loves him that way. they're step-siblings but w/e.
she can't marry him because he dead so \(o_o)/

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Sakurazuka posted:

The first two are true drat it....

I think it's incredibly insulting to gays and transgenders if you think that

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Endorph posted:

all, really

FE8 didn't even have 'subtly implied'

the twins were close because they were twins you weirdo

and fe4 had incest... as part of the awful master plan by the fantasy nazijews that were trying to destroy the world

FE4 also had the Tragic Forbidden Love brother-sister couple.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Tae posted:

I think it's incredibly insulting to gays and transgenders if you think that

gays and transgenders - what a 90 year old grandpa would call them

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

and well, naoto's shadow clearly shows that she does have gender issues, but they're less related to her mental identity and more related to how society views men and women

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

~*farts*~

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Tae posted:

I think it's incredibly insulting to gays and transgenders if you think that

I wasn't being entirely serious.

*quietly nudges piles of fanfics back under bed*

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon

Endorph posted:

people like sex appeal, but a lot aren't willing to buy entire games solely for sex appeal. there's also something to be said for the fact that games that have fanservice tend to have elements other than fanservice, while hentai games are usually just porn. a sexy lady that you connect with as a character is going to sell more merch than a sexy lady who has five lines.

also, teenagers who can't buy outright porn games, people who just don't like porn but are perfectly appreciative of big titties, etc etc. there's tons of reasons.

also i dont think sex is really anachronistic.

I think those are all good reasons for them to do it, I'm not arguing with their business decision. As a consumer, it just bugs me though. Also, it's not the sex being anachronistic (sex is universal and beautiful and blah blah) but sex appeal being used front and center in games that is. It's slowly been toning down in western games over the last several years.

-bloodychill, frequent masturbator

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
demonicon had a twist where it wasn't really incest after all and it made some nerds real mad

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
i guess they were both the result of satanic devil-magic but im not sure that actually counts as being related

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

closeted republican posted:

My favorite out of all the enemies is the King of Cille boss. He literally attacks you by giving you a thumbs up.



King of Ayyy

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Sakurazuka posted:

The first two are true drat it....

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MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

bloodychill posted:

It's slowly been toning down in western games over the last several years.


I'm glad Japan is picking up the slack then

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