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Shbobdb posted:Now that Palin is out of the public eye and recognized as a joke by everyone except fringe crazies, I'm cool letting sleeping dogs lie. I get she's going for a Kardashians-style "famous for being famous" bit but we don't need to enable or encourage her. Say what you will about the Kardashians, they are pretty media savvy. The Palins have shown themselves time and time again . . . not to be. Let's leave 'em alone and all just agree to pretend they never existed. This is why I'm sorta shocked that this is even news. Who cares about the Palins anymore?
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Shbobdb posted:Now that Palin is out of the public eye and recognized as a joke by everyone except fringe crazies, I'm cool letting sleeping dogs lie. I get she's going for a Kardashians-style "famous for being famous" bit but we don't need to enable or encourage her. Say what you will about the Kardashians, they are pretty media savvy. The Palins have shown themselves time and time again . . . not to be. Let's leave 'em alone and all just agree to pretend they never existed. No gently caress that logic. Individuals, families or groups that made a living saying you should do one thing, and then completely do the other deserve to be highlighted and ridiculed to stop them trying to preach/scam poo poo again. Josh Duggar and Hassert are two perfect recent examples of this.
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happyhippy posted:There must be a lot of frat houses nervous tonight awaiting which one was the grounds of the holy seed. There aren't a lot of frat houses in Alaska.
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site posted:This is why I'm sorta shocked that this is even news. Who cares about the Palins anymore? The beltway still thinks she's relevent. Maybe when Sarah ages a bit more and her "sassy spitfire" image is replaced by "bitter, partisan old woman" they'll let it go.
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beatlegs posted:The beltway still thinks she's relevent. Maybe when Sarah ages a bit more and her "sassy spitfire" image is replaced by "bitter, partisan old woman" they'll let it go. Bummer. Was figuring with the mental collapse and getting kicked off Fox (granted, that wasn't too long ago) she'd be history.
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I'm fine naming and shaming while they are in the public eye. It's a delicate balance, I'll agree, but after a while the "name and shame" aspect is all that keeps them in the news. That's the whole "famous for being famous" thing. Personally, I think the Palins have crossed that line. Plus, there are nuances. Hassert is a loving hypocrite because what Hassert didn't practice what he preached. He deserved that downfall. The Dugger parents and their social network actively hid abuse (and then, hilariously, normalized it by saying that they know plenty of other families with similar struggles!!!) while the particular Dugger in question was working at a major right-wing think tank. If Sarah Palin stepped out on her marriage or  actively hid her daughter having a child by pretending it was her own then totally name and shame.Bristol has certainly tried to user her mother's wingnut welfare stream to make it a family business but it never really took off. I can't blame her for trying, in her situation I can't say I wouldn't do the same. But we've all seen how unstable Sarah Palin can be, and her husband is even crazier than she is. Given that, I'd say Bristol is a product of an unstable environment. She didn't choose the family she was born to. No need to name and shame her to get back at her mother. To a large extent, that is just rural girls being girls and rural boys being boys. If you stigmatize sexual education in a machismo environment where "potency" matters, there is gonna be a lot of unplanned pregnancies. In Bristol's case, I imagine it is even harder since there are plenty of people looking to have their 15 minutes of fame, as if dating as a single mom wasn't hard enough. Blame the each of the Duggers for what they did (so blame the son for molesting multiple loving people and blame the parents for covering it up). Blame Hassert for what Hassert did. You can blame Bristol for having children out of wedlock, if that is your thing. But outside of some crazy conspiracy theories, Sarah Palin hasn't tried to cover up Bristol's children and by all accounts has been very welcoming of them. You can say she is a bad mother, but line of argument is similar enough to some hyper patriarchal arguments that I'm not really comfortable with. "If a woman can't manage her house, how can you expect her to manage a country!" relies on a lot of sexist baggage in a way that "How can you oppose homosexuality because of slippery slope arguments like condoning child molestation and/or incest when you either practiced (or covered for) people actively engaging in child molestation and/or incest (involving children)!"
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http://www.salon.com/2015/06/25/bill_oreilly_loses_his_sht_over_claims_racism_still_exists_you_want_a_war_you_got_a_war/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGLQy7-6ke0  He's definitely back to normal.
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happyhippy posted:Shbobdb is the father! It's a tale as old as time. Scrapping rogue hooks up with troubled heiress. Heiress's family doesn't approve. Scrapping rogue gets her pregnant and gets tied to the family fortune forever. After that, it goes one of two ways, the scrapping rogue either gets a sweet sinecure position far away from the heiress and the family shame gets downplayed or the heiress dies in a mysterious accident and the scrapping rogue gets a nice cash settlement to disappear forever. I still feel bad for Tila. An adopted kid and a not-legally-recognized marriage doesn't make for a solid case. She was so close to all that Johnson family money and she dropped the ball.
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Sir Tonk posted:
Will he ever upgrade from Geocities?
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Smoothrich posted:CNN is more accurate than you are. Regular middle class kids from the West join ISIS because of the "Jihad Cool" messaging or whatever its called. They think its hardcore gangster poo poo. ISIS parodies GTA and CoD for a reason. Thank you, Smoothrich. I appreciate your post.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Thank you, Smoothrich. I appreciate your post. Said no one ever
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So when the scotus gay marriage bomb finally hits. How many of these bigoted assclowns who talked about how they would light themselves on fire and or start a rebellion against the evil "Big Gay, how many will actualy go through with it?
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Dr. Faustus posted:Thank you, Smoothrich. I appreciate your post. This is a pretty decent VICE piece on ISIS recruits from Canada, which reminds me a lot of here in Minnesota, where Somalian immigrants are by far the majority of Americans going overseas to join ISIS and other stupid crap. Over in the Middle East its a whole different ballgame of hardened militias and Sunni tribes etc with real political grievances, but these bastards are using gang-type tactics to appeal to young impressionable suckers and I guess strap suicide bombs on them for the first wave of assaults as disposable grunts, a real waste of life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjXYRwhpSzE
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CommieGIR posted:Bristol Palin, paid $200k to speak about abstinence ("It Just Works") is pregnant out of wedlock....again.... Haha. Blame whoever paid her that money, not her. Hard to be a real hypocrite when people are paying some random reality tv star a quarter million bucks to read some pseudoscientific trash, who wouldn't for that much.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:So when the scotus gay marriage bomb finally hits. How many of these bigoted assclowns who talked about how they would light themselves on fire and or start a rebellion against the evil "Big Gay, how many will actualy go through with it? None, remember Hannity is still supposed to voluntarily get water boarded to prove it's not torture.
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Smoothrich posted:Haha. Blame whoever paid her that money, not her. Hard to be a real hypocrite when people are paying some random reality tv star a quarter million bucks to read some pseudoscientific trash, who wouldn't for that much. No, I'm going to blame both considering the Tea Party still pushes the Palin's as a "Family Values" candidate.
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Sir Tonk posted:http://www.salon.com/2015/06/25/bill_oreilly_loses_his_sht_over_claims_racism_still_exists_you_want_a_war_you_got_a_war/ I like how he bitches about how "BLACK PEOPLE KILL EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME LIKE IN DETROIT AND NO ONE CARES!". Yeah, Bill, buddy, you just kind of proved the point that there is a systemic issue in this country regarding the value placed on black American lives.
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happyhippy posted:In an alternate universe, the baby was conceived on the oval office's table. Bristol Palin conceived that child in sexual relations caused by loving America too much.
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Von Sloneker posted:
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beatlegs posted:Goodness. Everyone on the right is so testy today. Well, their racist flags got taken away.
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AsInHowe posted:Well, their racist flags got taken away. Taken away* *Voluntarily removed from sale by private retailers and/or removed by a democratic decision of Republican state houses
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Dapper_Swindler posted:So when the scotus gay marriage bomb finally hits. How many of these bigoted assclowns who talked about how they would light themselves on fire and or start a rebellion against the evil "Big Gay, how many will actualy go through with it? I originally read this as "Scouts gay marriage bomb" and was expecting their to be a big change in that. But really, with the confederate flag thing, the Obamacare ruling, and the impending gay marriage, conservatives must be ready to blow.
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/larry-wilmore-superimposes-himself-into-oreillys-shoutfest-with-kirsten-powers/ Ok that's pretty funny of Wilmore to do. Too bad we won't get a response from O'Reilly.
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Megyn Kelly is interviewing Donald Trump about Univision and it is one of the funniest things I have seen on television. I think Fox is trying to position Donald Trump as a legitimate presidential frontrunner? 
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Azuth0667 posted:None, remember Hannity is still supposed to voluntarily get water boarded to prove it's not torture. That's actually slightly different. I can't remember who did it but some talking head did in fact let himself get waterboarded. He wanted to last five minutes to prove it wasn't torture but lasted like 90 seconds or so and then completely flipped his opinion. He was like "dear gently caress that was awful" and quit talking like it wasn't so bad. Did Hannity stop claiming it wasn't torture after that? Because there was a sudden decline in claiming it wasn't so bad.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:That's actually slightly different. I can't remember who did it but some talking head did in fact let himself get waterboarded. He wanted to last five minutes to prove it wasn't torture but lasted like 90 seconds or so and then completely flipped his opinion. He was like "dear gently caress that was awful" and quit talking like it wasn't so bad. Did Hannity stop claiming it wasn't torture after that? Because there was a sudden decline in claiming it wasn't so bad. Christoper Hitchens. http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/08/hitchens200808 quote:Also, in case it’s of interest, I have since woken up trying to push the bedcovers off my face, and if I do anything that makes me short of breath I find myself clawing at the air with a horrible sensation of smothering and claustrophobia. No doubt this will pass. As if detecting my misery and shame, one of my interrogators comfortingly said, “Any time is a long time when you’re breathing water.” I could have hugged him for saying so, and just then I was hit with a ghastly sense of the sadomasochistic dimension that underlies the relationship between the torturer and the tortured. I apply the Abraham Lincoln test for moral casuistry: “If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.” Well, then, if waterboarding does not constitute torture, then there is no such thing as torture.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:That's actually slightly different. I can't remember who did it but some talking head did in fact let himself get waterboarded. He wanted to last five minutes to prove it wasn't torture but lasted like 90 seconds or so and then completely flipped his opinion. He was like "dear gently caress that was awful" and quit talking like it wasn't so bad. Did Hannity stop claiming it wasn't torture after that? Because there was a sudden decline in claiming it wasn't so bad. That was Hitchens. Hannity said he would do the same thing to prove it wasn't torture, but never did because he's a chickenshit internet tough guy.
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StandardVC10 posted:Taken away* A Democrat decision, you say?
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Venusian Weasel posted:That was Hitchens. "Kickstarter to challenge torture apologist bullshitters to take the plunge" needs to be a thing.
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Venusian Weasel posted:That was Hitchens. Wasn't there some right wing talk radio guy that said it wasn't torture, got waterboarded, and legitimately did immediately reverse and apologized for saying it wasn't?
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Idran posted:Wasn't there some right wing talk radio guy that said it wasn't torture, got waterboarded, and legitimately did immediately reverse and apologized for saying it wasn't? Mancow. And he probably faked it.
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I know Mancow and one of the New Atheists (I want to say Hitchens?) got waterboarded and did a 100% flip from "not torture" to "Holy poo poo, that is clearly and unambiguously torture. WOW. That is hosed up."
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