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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Christie/Trump More like Christie vs. Trump. If the two are competing in any way, Trump will call him a loser and Christie will attempt to beat the poo poo out of him. It'd be like Billy Batts telling you to Go Get Your Shinebox. A Trump-Christie confrontation is all I really want out of this election.
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I wish the US had an intelligent, charismatic right-wing blowhard like Boris Johnson. ...but not that charismatic 
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Jun 27, 2015 18:42
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Joementum posted:Trump Place, Manhattan: you're fired! Is he going to blame Mexicans for this?
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Alter Ego posted:Honest to God, I've thought about it, and what the gently caress does Chris Christie think he brings to the table that none of the other clownshows already in the race bring? Trump's in, so the role of "idiot blowhard" is even taken. What's Christie's niche? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of8kY_IbYq4
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Jun 27, 2015 18:55
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Is Perry gaining weight too? Huckabee's going to lose the fatty vote between him and Christie
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Jun 27, 2015 18:59
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Why do people believe that the USA is something special in gods eyes? I don't really understand it.
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Jun 27, 2015 19:01
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FireSight posted:Why do people believe that the USA is something special in gods eyes? I don't really understand it. Because we're the only known country in the history of the world to have a democratic election during a Civil War.
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Jun 27, 2015 19:02
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With Christie in, how close are we to having so many candidates that determining the top 10 for the debates is absolutely comical? Sorry, Jindal, but the cut off is 1.3%. Better luck next time. I love how the field just keeps getting me more and more hyped for the GOP debates. Trump vs. Christie vs. everyone. Who can back away from Trump's racist declarations the quickest without loosing primary votes? Will anyone manage to make it out without declaring the Supreme Court traitors and Gay Marriage the most horrible, ickiest, vilest thing ever? Now that the audience has cheered executions and the death of the sick, how will they top themselves? Also please position Scott Walker between the two most telegenic people on the stage.
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Jun 27, 2015 19:04
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FireSight posted:Why do people believe that the USA is something special in gods eyes? I don't really understand it. I don't think "[country] is actually pretty terrible" is going to win you a lot of elections anywhere.
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Jun 27, 2015 19:07
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FireSight posted:Why do people believe that the USA is something special in gods eyes? I don't really understand it. For Mormons, it's literally part of their scripture. For everyone else, it was part of the rise of the outspoken Christian movement during the Cold War in response to the Soviet Union's perceived atheism.
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Jun 27, 2015 19:08
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FireSight posted:Why do people believe that the USA is something special in gods eyes? I don't really understand it. Largest and strongest economy of the world. Largest /best trained military. Lots of reasons really. When the kurds were about to be wiped out by ISIS who stopped them? The USA.
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Cythereal posted:For Mormons, it's literally part of their scripture. For everyone else, it was part of the rise of the outspoken Christian movement during the Cold War in response to the Soviet Union's perceived atheism. That sort of language dates back to the 18th century.
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Jun 27, 2015 19:12
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The Roman Empire also had a special place.
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Jun 27, 2015 19:13
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Gyges posted:Also please position Scott Walker between the two most telegenic people on the stage. I guess Perry is soap-opera-handsome, but who would the second person be?
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Jun 27, 2015 19:14
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computer parts posted:I don't think "[country] is actually pretty terrible" is going to win you a lot of elections anywhere. It probably should though. A refreshingly honest and candid self-assessment would be great. You just need to make sure to run down other countries at the end. "...no matter how terrible we are, we're still better than everybody else. Thank you and goodnight." In the case of the US it has the advantage of being true.
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Joementum posted:Trump Place, Manhattan: you're fired! Watch Donald start a loving war.
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Peztopiary posted:It probably should though. A refreshingly honest and candid self-assessment would be great. You just need to make sure to run down other countries at the end. "...no matter how terrible we are, we're still better than everybody else. Thank you and goodnight." In the case of the US it has the advantage of being true. honesty and politics dont really mix very well
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Jun 27, 2015 19:17
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Peztopiary posted:It probably should though. A refreshingly honest and candid self-assessment would be great. You just need to make sure to run down other countries at the end. "...no matter how terrible we are, we're still better than everybody else. Thank you and goodnight." In the case of the US it has the advantage of being true. It shouldn't though, because it can only ever appeal to a minority of the population
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FireSight posted:Why do people believe that the USA is something special in gods eyes? I don't really understand it. They saw that part of the David Bowie video with all the people marching saying "God is an American" and instead of being afraid, they said "Hell yeah!"
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Kevyn posted:Watch Donald start a loving war. This will be Donald Trump's burning of the Reichstag.
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Maybe Christie knows he's doomed. Maybe he has a plan. Maybe his plan is to tell it like it is. Maybe he'll lay out the hypocritical positions of both parties. Maybe he'll attach extreme positions like the religious right and wall street. Maybe Chris Christie knows that he's dying politically, and his last gasp will be to throw a wrench in the whole system. Maybe Christie will, in the process of bringing down the establishment, become the new demagogue of America. Sanders/Christie 2016.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Maybe Christie knows he's doomed. Maybe he has a plan. He's term limited out of his current office
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FireSight posted:Why do people believe that the USA is something special in gods eyes? I don't really understand it. quote:Wee shall finde that the God of Israell is among us, when ten of us shall be able to resist a thousand of our enemies; when hee shall make us a prayse and glory that men shall say of succeeding plantations, "the Lord make it likely that of New England." For wee must consider that wee shall be as a citty upon a hill. The eies of all people are uppon us. Soe that if wee shall deale falsely with our God in this worke wee haue undertaken, and soe cause him to withdrawe his present help from us, wee shall be made a story and a by-word through the world. Wee shall open the mouthes of enemies to speake evill of the wayes of God, and all professors for God's sake. Wee shall shame the faces of many of God's worthy servants, and cause theire prayers to be turned into curses upon us till wee be consumed out of the good land whither wee are a goeing.
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FireSight posted:Why do people believe that the USA is something special in gods eyes? I don't really understand it. American Exceptionalism in a religious sense I'd guess dates back to the country's founding, but as far as I know, it became a big deal as the country expanded West across North America, since a lot of the perception was good Christian pioneers versus Godless heathens. At least I remember a divine mandate being a big political justification of US expansion from history classes. I mean, I'm sure it's a very complex issue historically to try and dig in to, but I'd say the modern concept probably stems from the old school divine mandate justification, the Civil War, the hegemony shift leaving us at the top of the pile after WWII, and playing up the religious differences between the US and the USSR in Cold War propaganda. I think Americans, myself included, are indoctrinated to think that America is a nation founded on moral grounds, and some look at those morals as Christian. They'd be largely incorrect, but that's not the point. Edit: quoted the wrong post
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I hope presidential candidates pick this up as a plan James Dobson and National Organization of Marriage have called for A Constitutional Convention quote:
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I hope presidential candidates pick this up as a plan Didn't Ted Cruz already call for that?
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bobtheconqueror posted:Didn't Ted Cruz already call for that? It's an idea that entered the conservative sphere through a book written by Mark Levin a couple years back. He's been pushing it ever since and lots of conservatives are starting to latch onto the idea. Overall it's not a bad plan considering their position. They've had much better luck with state elections where money gets bigger returns. If they ever could control enough state houses to pull it off then it would be a disaster for the country
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Good Citizen posted:It's an idea that entered the conservative sphere through a book written by Mark Levin a couple years back. He's been pushing it ever since and lots of conservatives are starting to latch onto the idea. An article 5 convention is the stupidest thing they could do. If thirteen states vote no on whatever such a convention produces its gonna blow up in their faces big time.
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Peztopiary posted:It probably should though. A refreshingly honest and candid self-assessment would be great. You just need to make sure to run down other countries at the end. "...no matter how terrible we are, we're still better than everybody else. Thank you and goodnight." In the case of the US it has the advantage of being true. I have some bad news for you, Jimmy Carter circa 1979.
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I don't think any of the GOP contenders expected there to be this many players on the field. But if you (I'm referring to Christie specifically but it could be almost any of them) have spent the last several years building hype, courting donors and accepting checks - you can't let a little thing like having no chance of winning cause you to back out. No one's gonna go and start returning checks, and dumping your war chest on another candidate is like a slap in the face to your donors. I think almost everyone in the field, 2 years ago genuinely thought they had a very good chance of winning the nomination, and at the time they were right. Trump must know he has no chance of winning and is running for...other reasons. Christie, Jindal, Huckabee, Fiorinia, Graham, Pataki and Perry probably are jockeying for a veep or cabinet slot. Cruz and Paul probably think they have a chance and have enough of a base to come in a respectable 3rd or 4th. Carson - who knows? That leaves us with our real candidates - Rubio, Bush and Walker.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I hope presidential candidates pick this up as a plan *intends to eradicated gay marriage* *accidentally allows tea party to debate the 15th* Edit - read it again and revelling in the absolute CHEEKINESS of Dobson to quote MLK in opposition to this ruling. Boner Pill Connoisseur fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jun 27, 2015 |
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From 1972:
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Thought Huckabee was fat. Bicyclops posted:They're different kinds of idiot blowhards. Trump bangs his silver spoon on the table and shouts racist slurs and says "I started many a successful business, you jelly?" whereas Christie has more of an incompetent mob boss thing for him. Yeah, but if they both make it onto the debate stage, the combined amount of hot air could cause the venue to go critical 
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Mordiceius posted:From 1972: That's a great find, and one that can be used to summarize the primary so far: Bernie: "Abolish all laws dealing with [i.e. prohibiting] abortion." Hillary campaign supporter/surrogate: Bernie hates women because he doesn't want to regulate abortion providers. Also he hates immigrants and minorities, since he didn't mention them at all.
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The Nastier Nate posted:Trump must know he has no chance of winning and is running for...other reasons. Christie, Jindal, Huckabee, Fiorinia, Graham, Pataki and Perry probably are jockeying for a veep or cabinet slot. Cruz and Paul probably think they have a chance and have enough of a base to come in a respectable 3rd or 4th. Carson - who knows? That leaves us with our real candidates - Rubio, Bush and Walker. You misunderstand, Graham is only in this to throw poo poo at Paul. With a side quest of throwing poo poo at Cruz should he have time. He's under no illusion that he will either win or be anyone's VP.
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This article summarizes well my feelings about Hilary Clinton. She is awful and it is appaling that she of all people would use the rainbow in her logo. She is not and never has been my ally. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/hillary-clintons-gay-marriage-problem/372717/ from the article "The Defense of Marriage Act was a federal law, signed by Bill Clinton, that barred same-sex couples from being recognized as married partners. Hillary Clinton said during her Senate run in 2000 that she would have signed the law, and as late as 2003 she was not willing to reverse her position, saying through a spokesperson only that she was in the process of "evolving" on it. " She also was opposed to gay marriage in 2008 when she also ran for president. I am utterly disgusted with her. I would like to see a woman for president but that woman is not Hilary Clinton. I'm going for Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein, not another beltway establishment hypocrite who tries to alter history.
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Feather posted:That's a great find, and one that can be used to summarize the primary so far: Judging by how far to the left Hillary has 'evolved' in the past 15 years, I'm assuming she was an intern for the Wallace campaign while Sanders was writing that.
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I could see Graham angling for Secretary of State/Defense, since his focus is mostly foreign policy/blood for the blood god.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I could see Graham angling for Secretary of State/Defense, since his focus is mostly foreign policy/blood for the blood god. Yeah but who's gonna give it to him? Bush has his family's cronies to reward, Cruz and Paul hate him and Trump is just going to put Gary Busey and Dennis Rodman in every cabinet position .
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