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Artistic expression that was never intended for mass consumption has been around for a while. Henry Darger comes to mind, but only because of an episode of the Venture Bros.
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tarlibone posted:Artistic expression that was never intended for mass consumption has been around for a while. Henry Darger comes to mind, but only because of an episode of the Venture Bros. I think you have to get around the first amendment issues by having it fall under harassment or stalking or something. It's easier to peg it as a tort like IIED but revenge porn probably needs to rise to the criminal level rather than just being a civil thing which would be a pain in the balls to even successfully sue for because it's over the internet. It's also weird in that it's not even remotely blackmail or defamation even though it feels like it should be.
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Jun 28, 2015 02:11
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IRQ posted:I think you have to get around the first amendment issues by having it fall under harassment or stalking or something. Yeah, the problem with it being civil instead of criminal is that the victim is on the hook for legal fees most of the time. Blackmail has special requirements which, if met, would make it a blackmail case. Defamation has its own rules, too. There really needs to be a law about this kind of thing, a law dedicated to this issue and others like it. Yes, it might be hard to prosecute a revenge porn case, no matter how the law is written. But things are different now, very different, than they were 20 years ago. This needs to be accounted for.
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Jun 28, 2015 02:22
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Even if it's not perfect the legislation might force law enforcement agencies to learn what Twitter is, at the very least.
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Jun 28, 2015 04:24
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Gaz-L posted:Hey, we needed to know what Warren G Harding called his dick. For history. Well, I believe we can all be sure that he didn't call it Teapot Dome.
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Jun 28, 2015 04:28
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Mr. Fowl posted:Well, I believe we can all be sure that he didn't call it Teapot Dome. I hold the copyright on that,
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Jun 28, 2015 05:06
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Two things John'll probably talk about at least a bit today: -Sepp Blatter claiming he didn't resign -SCOTUS ruling 5-4 in favor of marriae being legalized for gay folks everywhere
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Jun 28, 2015 23:58
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In particular, I expect to hear some material devoted to the notion some GOPpers are throwing around regarding amending the Constitution to nullify the SCOTUS decision. Maybe even some jokes about how Lindsey Graham is trying to pump the GOP's breaks on that particular idea. At least, one can hope.
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Jun 29, 2015 00:01
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Also Donald Trump being Donald Trump
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Jun 29, 2015 00:06
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Possibly a segment on the actual history of the stupid confederate flag, since people apparently decided to spend the majority of last week dying on THAT hill. E: wait no he already did that??? Where was that thing I saw help I'm getting my political media all mixed up 
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The thing that gets me about what is known popularly as the Confederate Flag is that its staunch defenders, the heritagefolk, will trip over their dicks all day long trying to tell you that it is not a Confederate flag. "It wasn't one of the official flags!" they say. "It was just used by one of the armies as a battle flag, that's it, it's not the Confederate flag." Then you say, "Wait.. what wasn't the Confederate flag?" Then they say, "This Confederate flag on my shirt and belt buckle." With a smile. It's a fun thing, watching defenders deny that it's the Confederate flag before and after they refer to it as such. And seeing as how they were the only ones to ever fly it, even if it literally wasn't flown over every government building, it's still, at the very least, a Confederate flag. When my dad was an OTR truck driver, he told me how you'd be driving and run across these people on the CB. It'd be a grille cover, and people would talk about it. Once, someone chimed in, "Hey, who's that on (some Interstate) in the (some Truck make) with the Union Jack on the front?" Not one second later, an angry redneck replied, "That's a REBEL flag, son! Confederate flag!" and a bunch of cussing. My dad said (or claims to have said), "But I thought the Confederate flag was white?" That got a few of 'em going, and a few of the non-fans of the flag joined in. My dad: a CB troll. RIP. I went through a rebel flag phase. What can I say? I'm white (well, mixed, but 3/4ths white and I look white), I was born in North Carolina, and I grew up in southern Illinois in a town with only white people. When I moved to a more diverse area, I quickly found out how other people view the flag, and I put my rebel flag stuff away. I'm sure it's all gone by now. Here's the real shame of it all: from a strictly aesthetic perspective, that flag would make a great US flag. It has echoes of the Union Jack, which would make sense given who the original 13 colonies belonged to at the time of the revolution. It has a nice 13 star design, in honor of those original states. It's practically purpose-designed to be a bandana, too. It just looks cool. No, it would never do with 50 stars, but not many countries have a flag as busy as ours without government seals, coats of arms, or lettering. (Didn't China call us the Flower Flag nation or something?) It's too bad the people who came up with a really cool American flag were a bunch of slavery-defending rebels.
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tarlibone posted:The thing that gets me about what is known popularly as the Confederate Flag is that its staunch defenders, the heritagefolk, will trip over their dicks all day long trying to tell you that it is not a Confederate flag. "It wasn't one of the official flags!" they say. "It was just used by one of the armies as a battle flag, that's it, it's not the Confederate flag." Then you say, "Wait.. what wasn't the Confederate flag?" Then they say, "This Confederate flag on my shirt and belt buckle." With a smile. It's a fun thing, watching defenders deny that it's the Confederate flag before and after they refer to it as such. And seeing as how they were the only ones to ever fly it, even if it literally wasn't flown over every government building, it's still, at the very least, a Confederate flag. See, Nazi Germany and all of the cool looking poo poo ruined forever by racist murdering assholes.
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Burkion posted:See, Nazi Germany and all of the cool looking poo poo ruined forever by racist murdering assholes. Either on the TV series or movie Outsourced, this made an appearance.
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All I'm saying is I hope that the Main Story isn't yet another one that can fit into the category of "Here's another bit of bad American public policy that will make you feel ashamed for your country!" Domestically speaking, it's been a pretty good week all-in-all and John should focus on something else. The only exception I can make is if it's about LGBT civil rights in general, in which case I won't like it, but I can understand why he'd go for it. I wish John would focus more on world events on his main stories, sorta like he did with the Indian elections in his very first episode. As much as Americans need to know about what's going on here, our ignorance of world events is also something that needs to be fixed. Bonus points if he ties it in with a history lesson on American foreign policy in the region or country of focus. Then again, I was excited to hear that he didn't focus on a public policy issue last week, but that managed to be even more unbearable to sit through than his usual weekly topics. Be careful what you wish for. Edit: Maybe he can focus on LGBT rights (or lack thereof) across the world. I learned Friday that you can go to jail for life in Guyana if you are caught performing "buggery." get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Jun 29, 2015 |
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Jun 29, 2015 03:55
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Yes he's talking about buttplug flag!
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Jun 29, 2015 04:03
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Best publicity ISIS has gotten.
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Y-Hat posted:
Well he covered transgender rights in the US, which you don't typically see too much coverage on.
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axeil posted:Well he covered transgender rights in the US, which you don't typically see too much coverage on.
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You should probably watch the segment
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Tatum Girlparts posted:You should probably watch the segment
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Jun 29, 2015 05:13
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https://johnoliversecstapes.com The c and the x keys being so close together does little to help typing that correctly so I figured I'd do you all a public service.
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Jun 29, 2015 06:49
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Hot ostrich sex was the best part of any show in a long time.
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Jun 29, 2015 09:13
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Apoplexy posted:Hot ostrich sex was the best part of any show in a long time. I agree.
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Jun 29, 2015 10:52
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That Edge joke was incredible
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Exclamation Marx posted:That Edge joke was incredible The noun or the verb?
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Having recently moved to Massachusetts I appreciated the Bostonian joke. I mean I like sports but they take it to a whole other level here.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:28
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Cut from last night? http://youtu.be/EjpJqcM3X94
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Hahah the loving puckish delight that healthcare might be taken away from people, the pure glee in megan kelly's eyes. Goddamn It's a shame they couldn't fit that in.
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Nothing about Greece?
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Small White Dragon posted:Nothing about Greece? Almost certainly going to be something for next week. This is the week most of that goes down anyway.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Almost certainly going to be something for next week. This is the week most of that goes down anyway. No show next week. Next opportunity is the Sunday after, the 12th.
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Small White Dragon posted:Nothing about Greece? Considering that he had the story of the year all to himself for a weekend, I'm willing to cut him some slack on the omission.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Almost certainly going to be something for next week. This is the week most of that goes down anyway. The vote to basically leave the EU takes places this Sunday, so even though the show is off the real meat of the story won't be until the week after this one.
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thefncrow posted:No show next week. Next opportunity is the Sunday after, the 12th. IRQ posted:The vote to basically leave the EU takes places this Sunday, so even though the show is off the real meat of the story won't be until the week after this one. Well I guess that works out then.
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DivisionPost posted:Cut from last night? Jesus Christ, Dick Morris in that pink sweater. That image is going to haunt my nightmares.
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I liked the trans rights segment. It was pretty basic but handled really well, and I especially appreciated that there was relatively equal attention given to trans women and men. Also space bestiality.
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Philip Rivers posted:I liked the trans rights segment. It was pretty basic but handled really well, and I especially appreciated that there was relatively equal attention given to trans women and men. Also space bestiality. I think using transmen as examples works really well to argue against the ~bathroom invader~ angle. Would you want this guy in a women's bathroom with your daughter? 
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Philip Rivers posted:I liked the trans rights segment. It was pretty basic but handled really well, and I especially appreciated that there was relatively equal attention given to trans women and men. Also space bestiality. But it was such a missed opportunity to bring back the frozen gently caress lizards!
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Exclamation Marx posted:I think using transmen as examples works really well to argue against the ~bathroom invader~ angle. Would you want this guy in a women's bathroom with your daughter? Hell no, he's got tribal tats.
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The fundamental issue is that guys like Mike Huckabee don't believe that "gender identity" is a thing separate from sex at birth because they don't understand it and it's easier to just assume it's some pervert poo poo than to actually try to learn something about other human beings. Also they apparently believe that if someone is the kind of person to assault a child in the bathroom, being told to go to the other bathroom is going to be enough to stop them. "Oh, I was GOING to rape your daughter, but I'm not allowed in the women's bathroom. Foiled again!"
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