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Wafflecopper: Nov 27, 2004; I am a mouth, and I must scream

Tiler Kiwi posted:

I really hate fantasy armor.

You know how it's called fantasy? Yeah.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 11:53

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Klaus88: Jan 23, 2011; Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

CommissarMega posted:

Make Kislev a viable army choice. Or Araby. Hell, aren't the TK's kind of alright rulers? Release a new TK army list with human auxiliaries, it'd be amazing!

But nope, gotta put out Sigmarines, let's explode everything and start anew.

EDIT: Seriously, what are round bases and massive shoulderpads on eight-foot tall superhumans doing in my Fantasy?

gently caress you GW, impractical hats, gunpowder and pike and shot tactics were what made warhammer fantasy unique and fun! :arghfist:

# ? Jun 29, 2015 11:53

Tiler Kiwi: Feb 26, 2011

thats a lazy copout

i mean i am a legit poo poo-tard for caring but its like defending a lovely disproportionate deviant-art anime character art by going "shut up fucker its a stylistic choice", you gotta have some understanding of the poo poo youre exaggerating or modifying for a genre or its just kind of balefully generic and derivative and limits actual originality.

anyways its only tangentially related to warhammer total war i guess so thats good at least

# ? Jun 29, 2015 12:22

Martello: Apr 29, 2012; by XyloJW

Tiler Kiwi posted:

I really hate fantasy armor.

Its always this stupid, overly ornate garbage plate mail bullshit. None of the people that create it know or respect anything about the history of armor, or how much a loving science it was. So when trying to create cool armor they produce trash that is the horrifying equivalent of a colorblind man painting a room, and looks worse than people hundreds of years ago made when they had a loving sense that even their crazy gilded ornate poo poo had to somehow be worn by a human being at some point.. I liked the empire in fantasy since they cribbed from a different era of armor and were somewhat less inclined to create formless metal shithouses and now its dead. Dead!

okay thats me being autistic for a bit to get in the spirit of things but lovely fantasy armaments are a legit pet peeve of mine as i am a thoughtless consumer of lovely media meant for children

e: like what the gently caress is the point of all those loving lovely overwrought details on the chaos guys when theyre like 2 loving inches tall and all those bits just turn into loving noise the second you move your eye more than a half foot away from them aaaaa

While I mostly agree with you

You said 'plate mail'

# ? Jun 29, 2015 13:27

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

So the new Sigmarites are basically more heavily armored Archons from Age of Wonders now?

# ? Jun 29, 2015 13:28

Tiler Kiwi: Feb 26, 2011

Martello posted:

While I mostly agree with you

You said 'plate mail'

gently caress.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 15:21

Mordja: Apr 26, 2014; Hell Gem

I'll admit, I'd been thinking a big shakeup could be cool, seeing as I'm in the desirable position of not actually playing TT (got an unpainted Eldar "army" from a decade ago, though) while being into the video games and periphery lore/aesthetic but throwing out a cool, weird pastiche of exagerrated cultures in favour of generic fantasy...what the hell are they thinking.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 16:03

dogstile: May 1, 2012; fucking clocks
how do they work?

I like all the stupid armour. It makes it funnier when my ork boyz smash their stupid faces in because they probably can't move their arms above their heads.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 16:46

Klaus88: Jan 23, 2011; Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

dogstile posted:

I like all the stupid armour. It makes it funnier when my ork boyz smash their stupid faces in because they probably can't move their arms above their heads.

Your orks are now Blizzard Warcraft orcs, with all the dumb angst and backstory that implies. :shepicide:

# ? Jun 29, 2015 16:57

toasterwarrior: Nov 11, 2011

Klaus88 posted:

Your orks are now Blizzard Warcraft orcs, with all the dumb angst and backstory that implies.

don't do this to me

# ? Jun 29, 2015 17:03

Mans: Sep 14, 2011; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Tiler Kiwi posted:

I really hate fantasy armor.

Its always this stupid, overly ornate garbage plate mail bullshit. None of the people that create it know or respect anything about the history of armor, or how much a loving science it was. So when trying to create cool armor they produce trash that is the horrifying equivalent of a colorblind man painting a room, and looks worse than people hundreds of years ago made when they had a loving sense that even their crazy gilded ornate poo poo had to somehow be worn by a human being at some point.. I liked the empire in fantasy since they cribbed from a different era of armor and were somewhat less inclined to create formless metal shithouses and now its dead. Dead!

okay thats me being autistic for a bit to get in the spirit of things but lovely fantasy armaments are a legit pet peeve of mine as i am a thoughtless consumer of lovely media meant for children

e: like what the gently caress is the point of all those loving lovely overwrought details on the chaos guys when theyre like 2 loving inches tall and all those bits just turn into loving noise the second you move your eye more than a half foot away from them aaaaa

i dunno, the Imperial Guard equipment seems pretty functional since a human being really can't stand against virtually anything in that unniverse so a soft padding against debris and small arms fire (that basically no one uses but i guess it saves from ricochets). The Catachans dress like Rambo because they know their armor is useless and jungle fighting makes you sweat a lot and IG's armor seems to have a lot of cotton.

The Space Marine and Chaos armor is basically poo poo that's strapped on top of giant humanoid tanks so it's more of a dick waving competition than a serious concern for efficiency.

Klaus88 posted:

Your orks are now Blizzard Warcraft orcs, with all the dumb angst and backstory that implies.

gently caress you, gently caress off. you're kidding.

i seriously doubt that Warham Ork isn't one of the companies' biggest cashcows.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 17:04

Neruz: Jul 23, 2012; A paragon of manliness

Games Workshop hates Ork players because the Ork players always ruin their carefully crafted narrative.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 17:11

Hihohe: Oct 4, 2008; Fuck you and the sun you live under

I like savage orks because their only armor is tattoos that they believe will protect them, so it does.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 17:16

Zaodai: May 23, 2009; Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.

Hihohe posted:

I like savage orks because their only armor is tattoos that they believe will protect them, so it does.

Orks wouldn't be the first culture in history to think that's true. They'd just be the first to have the psychic power to make it happen. :getin:

I still can't believe they gave Orks loving stand-in elves to lead them if that leak is accurate though.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 18:33

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Zaodai posted:

Orks wouldn't be the first culture in history to think that's true. They'd just be the first to have the psychic power to make it happen.

I still can't believe they gave Orks loving stand-in elves to lead them if that leak is accurate though.

Some of GW's writers are still extremely salty about Grimgor proving he was cooler than anything Chaos had.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 18:40

Voyager I: Jun 29, 2012; This is how your posting feels.
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Hihohe posted:

I like savage orks because their only armor is tattoos that they believe will protect them, so it does.

Ork society basically functioning like a bunch of roided out psychic five-year-olds playing make believe might be my favorite thing about Warhammer.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 18:48

Skandranon: Sep 6, 2008; fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Voyager I posted:

Ork society basically functioning like a bunch of roided out psychic five-year-olds playing make believe might be my favorite thing about Warhammer.

And GW is probably getting rid of that, because they are idiots.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 19:02

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

dogstile posted:

I like all the stupid armour. It makes it funnier when my ork boyz smash their stupid faces in because they probably can't move their arms above their heads.

"Imperial observers have noted that the Orks have taken up the habit of mocking the inability of Space Marines to raise their arms above their heads by forming a "wave" and chanting one of their barbaric songs."

# ? Jun 29, 2015 19:07

Hihohe: Oct 4, 2008; Fuck you and the sun you live under

Night10194 posted:

Some of GW's writers are still extremely salty about Grimgor proving he was cooler than anything Chaos had.

Grimgor , not unlike the Hulk, is the strongest there is.
If the end times were just the orcs creating an unstoppable waaghh that killed everything until there was nothing left it wouldve been a fitting end.

I do hope there are ways to customize your warboss and that you can run a goblin heavy army. IM GONNA BE DA NEX GROM DA PAUNCH!

In fact I hope you can make your own warband, even if its just simple color swaps like in blood bowl. It would be cool to be the next big threat to old world as a new chaos lord , warboss ,or necromancer/vampire.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 19:09

Pimpmust: Oct 1, 2008

Mans posted:

gently caress you, gently caress off. you're kidding.

i seriously doubt that Warham Ork isn't one of the companies' biggest cashcows.

Let me introduce you to "Waaghkin" ....

(Please be a fake rumour, like the musclebound fantasy-marines of Sigmar-oh gently caress)

# ? Jun 29, 2015 19:16

dogstile: May 1, 2012; fucking clocks
how do they work?

If all that about orkz are true i'm just going to stop buying anything related to warhammer :shrug:

I've got other poo poo to move onto, let GW burn their franchise and let someone else pick up the IP.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 19:16

Stephen9001: Oct 28, 2013

Neruz posted:

Games Workshop hates Ork players because the Ork players always ruin their carefully crafted narrative.

Which really, is quite appropriate when you think about it.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 19:18

Kanos: Sep 6, 2006; was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

I just had the horrifyingly cynical thought that the only reason GW is finally OKing such a broad grand strategy game in the Fantasy universe is because the Fantasy universe as we knew it is now dead to rights so this is just mining the corpse for dollars.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 19:25

Zaodai: May 23, 2009; Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.

Kanos posted:

I just had the horrifyingly cynical thought that the only reason GW is finally OKing such a broad grand strategy game in the Fantasy universe is because the Fantasy universe as we knew it is now dead to rights so this is just mining the corpse for dollars.

That's probably accurate. On the plus side, it means they should (in theory) meddle in the whole process less as long as they get their big bag of money with a dollar sign on it. At least until they realize it's popular, and is thus harming their new lovely version of Fantasy, and cancel all subsequent games and DLC in a fit of rage.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 19:33

Buschmaki: Dec 26, 2012; ‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿

Tiler Kiwi posted:

plate mail

Looks like you're the dumbass, here.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:07

Buschmaki: Dec 26, 2012; ‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿

I'm downloading hitman absolution and wasn't quick enough on the call-out, I apologize to everyone I've offended.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:08

Mans: Sep 14, 2011; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

it's going to be fun when people play Total War: Warhammer, see the liverpool Orks and then try to check out the tabletop Orks only to find yet another Warcraft noble savage shitfest.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:21

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Mans posted:

it's going to be fun when people play Total War: Warhammer, see the liverpool Orks and then try to check out the tabletop Orks only to find yet another Warcraft noble savage shitfest.

This but for basically everything about Fantasy. DoW was a huge advertising coup for GW and now they've put themselves in a similar position, but killed off everything they'd be advertising.

As a reminder, GW literally does not have a marketing department and is super smug about this fact.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:22

Zaodai: May 23, 2009; Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.

Keep in mind if they did have a marketing department, they'd still be making GBS threads on old Warhams, but instead we'd be getting this game set in the new lovely universe.

In this case, their incompetence is working drastically in our favor.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:36

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Zaodai posted:

Keep in mind if they did have a marketing department, they'd still be making GBS threads on old Warhams, but instead we'd be getting this game set in the new lovely universe.

In this case, their incompetence is working drastically in our favor.

I had not thought of this. Thank you, GW, for being so poo poo.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:38

Mordja: Apr 26, 2014; Hell Gem

Maybe they'll reboot 40K to be more like old Fantasy next. :psyduck:

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:42

Torrannor: Apr 27, 2013; ---FAGNER---
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What's wrong with "plate mail"?

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:48

Mr Darcy: Feb 8, 2006

Torrannor posted:

What's wrong with "plate mail"?

I'm not an expert, but plate armour tends to be made of great lumps of metal, whereas mail armour tends to be itty-bitty links of metal.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:56

jokes: Dec 20, 2012; Uh... Kupo?

Torrannor posted:

What's wrong with "plate mail"?

I imagine it's like calling something a truck car. Plate armor is made of big solid plates, sometimes just a straight plate cuirass and stuff. Mail armor is that cool shark-diving poo poo.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 20:59

Warbadger: Jun 17, 2006

Plate mail just means a set of smaller metal armor plates held together by mail.

Warbadger fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jun 29, 2015

# ? Jun 29, 2015 21:03

Hihohe: Oct 4, 2008; Fuck you and the sun you live under

I always treat "plate mail" as wearing plate armor with mail armor underneath.

^^^or yeah that too

# ? Jun 29, 2015 21:04

xthetenth: Dec 30, 2012; Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Warbadger posted:

Plate mail just means a set of metal plates held together by mail.

Which it isn't? The mail is on a lower layer to cover gaps in the plates, not to hold it together.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 21:06

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

Bob, we just gave these guys the rights to make a Total War Warhammer game, something the internet has been asking about for many years

That's great Mark,

by the way Mark, we're scrapping the setting and making a new one. We feel the timing of this is perfect. We are sure this is a great idea. We are Games Workshop

# ? Jun 29, 2015 21:07

Kanos: Sep 6, 2006; was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Zzulu posted:

Bob, we just gave these guys the rights to make a Total War Warhammer game, something the internet has been asking about for many years

That's great Mark,

by the way Mark, we're scrapping the setting and making a new one. We feel the timing of this is perfect. We are sure this is a great idea. We are Games Workshop

Do you know what sells, Mark? Space marines sell. How do we get space marines into Fantasy?

# ? Jun 29, 2015 21:09

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Skandranon: Sep 6, 2008; fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Torrannor posted:

What's wrong with "plate mail"?

Same thing wrong with "chainmail" or "ringmail". The mail part implies the linked rings sort of armor, and is thus redundant.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_(armour)

# ? Jun 29, 2015 21:25

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