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ultramiraculous posted:even for creepier advertising, your name is hardly a unique identifier. sure, if you were white
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Mr. Apollo posted:http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/europe/germany-volkswagen-robot-kills-worker/index.html and that's why you have the robot in glacial speed mode and someone with their hand over the emergency stop when teaching a robot. and why you loving lockout tagout poo poo when you do not absolutely need it to move.
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born on a buy you posted:a dude has to google what fireflies were ???
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pointsofdata posted:http://www.courtnewsuk.co.uk/?news_id=41321 my anti-uber and anti-white people urges are conflicting here. i don't know who to assume is guilty without any evidence :-(
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Condiv posted:california is now making uber carry primary insurance on all drivers logged in to the app, not just those with passengers in their car. it also forbids uber's "try to get your insurance to pay for it first" shenanigans “I think it’s smart to stay out of the limelight so they don’t decide to target drivers and somehow get more money out of us,” says Doree Kaplan, a San Diego resident waiting on approval to drive for Uber. isn't withholding information from your insurance company, like, the definition of insurance fraud
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As a Millennial I posted:“I think it’s smart to stay out of the limelight so they don’t decide to target drivers and somehow get more money out of us,” says Doree Kaplan, a San Diego resident waiting on approval to drive for Uber. especially as just about every insurance provider now explicitly asks about uber/lyft when you sign up or change your policy.
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fritz posted:??? they're little bugs that can light up their butts with phosphorescence during the night to attract mates.
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fits my needs posted:subjunctive is gonna need an extended magnet rubbing session after this blowback! did u know: TMS, in addition to being a highly effective treatment for clinical depression, can also be used to disable the part of your brain responsible for not being a psychopath atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Subjunctive posted:I think that it is a reasonable thing for a service to say that they want people to use their real names. It is not an uncommon thing in the world, and most such cases have a much more stringent definition. By real name I mean the name you use when introducing yourself to someone when you meet them, for example. in real life, pseudonyms and careful control of information disclosure are completely normal on facebook they are banned Subjunctive posted:I think that the real name policy does contribute to a better system, and we have some evidence that it does. Others may doubt it or believe that number of friends would matter more or whatever; I can't share the underlying data, so agree to disagree I guess. it makes the system more appealing to advertisers. that is the only sense in which any kind of name verification is valuable. (hell, our very posting subverts your argument: if radical openness and real names are intrinsically valuable to end-users why the hell isn't your SA nick a direct reference to your real name?) this could not more clearly be a case of a man not understanding something when his salary depends upon not understanding it
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tbf it's less that "advertisers want your real name so they can target directly to you" and more other stuff, like having "personal" recommendations from your friends for a brand makes you more likely to also buy a thing vs. weed lord bonerhitler or w/e
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uncurable mlady posted:tbf it's less that "advertisers want your real name so they can target directly to you" and more other stuff, like having "personal" recommendations from your friends for a brand makes you more likely to also buy a thing vs. weed lord bonerhitler or w/e real name doesn't matter at all to me as an advertiser. at all. the only people who really care that much are the super ultra high end luxury and real estate brands who are trying to get bill gates jr. to buy $250,000,000 alligator skin speedboats. the friends network thing, again we don't need real name, it's all just on their graph. i'm not sure i can even advertise to friends of my target, because that's a pretty huge waste. you'd want to spend your money advertising to more people that are in your target. you don't advertise BMW to friends of people who like BMW on facebook, you advertise to people who like BMW. edit: if you're thinking of the Sponsored/Promoted "Tori CMOS likes PTownDownLow.com" posts on your page, that's just 'advertise to friends of people who like this page' but that poo poo is terrible and the only people who use it are idiots because it performs like poo poo. and again, the advertiser gets no info whatsoever on anybody they're advertising to.
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Subjunctive posted:I think that the real name policy does contribute to a better system, and we have some evidence that it does. Others may doubt it or believe that number of friends would matter more or whatever; I can't share the underlying data, so agree to disagree I guess. In my direct and indirect interactions with LGBT and mental health groups (in the US and elsewhere) on the topic, the issue is virtually always "people are trying to use the name they feel is their real name and FB doesn't have a way of them proving it if challenged" and not "please let people use arbitrary pseudonyms". That is a real issue, it's one we need to address, it falls down in cases (sort of) like Zoe's, and it's one that I personally put energy into. Using people's social graph is something that comes up a lot, but it's hard to distinguish "social circle vouching for Jane Lightning" and "co-conspirators validating an Anita Sarkeesian impersonation account". Not to say it's impossible, but there aren't a lot of "well just X" simple approaches that haven't been explored. i guess i don't get why 'take people's word for it' isn't 'proof' enough for facebook in cases where there's no abuse happening. if i change my name to 'Iskandar Salah ad-Din' because i've decided to run off an join isil or whatever and i don't want my mom to find out (she was raised in a weird apocalyptic catholic sect and she would totally not approve) i don't get how it's to facebook's benefit to demand i show them a magazine subscription in that name or shut down my account. you're just gonna alienate me from the service. if i change my name to 'Said Arif' and plaster my profile with isil propaganda and start flirting with damaged western teens and someone reports me as not the real isil leader then sure demand i reveal my subscription to mujahideen monthly. if people are just reporting me out of some sort of puritanism or jealousy that i totally get to personally dismantle ancient ruins in palmyra then why can't fb's policy be 'gently caress your jealousy, live and let live'? how does facebook benefit in any way from an adversarial 'real name' policy? when does the bad press and the negative user experience and the guilt of the total lack of institutional empathy force fb to abandon their automatic assume abuse policy? can you do something about all the super obnoxious 'jamesandstephanie jones' and chrisandamy stevens' accounts littering my friends list? why are like 75% of my friends using laughably fake names that fb doesn't seem to give a poo poo about? is your enforcement that lovely? or maybe triggering real name reviews on report is the real abuse? why is facebook so institutionally austistic? the talent deficit fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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the talent deficit posted:i guess i don't get why 'take people's word for it' isn't 'proof' enough for facebook in cases where there's no abuse happening. if i change my name to 'Iskandar Salah ad-Din' because i've decided to run off an join isil or whatever and i don't want my mom to find out (she was raised in a weird apocalyptic catholic sect and she would totally not approve) i don't get how it's to facebook's benefit to demand i show them a magazine subscription in that name or shut down my account. you're just gonna alienate me from the service. if i change my name to 'Said Arif' and plaster my profile with isil propaganda and start flirting with damaged western teens and someone reports me as not the real isil leader then sure demand i reveal my subscription to mujahideen monthly. if people are just reporting me out of some sort of puritanism or jealousy that i totally get to personally dismantle ancient ruins in palmyra then why can't fb's policy be 'gently caress your jealousy, live and let live'? your eyes and posts are a product and they can't mine your poo poo if you are loving around with nom de plumes can we stop this already
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Jonny 290 posted:your eyes and posts are a product and they can't mine your poo poo if you are loving around with nom de plumes isn't this the thread to talk about how silicon valley is totally bad and stupid? is there a reason discussing reasons facebook is totally bad and stupid doesn't belong here?
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i watched the first episode of "silicon valley" recently and my strongest response was that the show did not poo poo on ~*~the tech industry~*~ nearly as hard as it could or should have
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:(hell, our very posting subverts your argument: if radical openness and real names are intrinsically valuable to end-users why the hell isn't your SA nick a direct reference to your real name?) Do you know what intrinsic means? Did you try to think of any answers at all to this stupid question before you posted it?
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like i'm not saying the series was trying to champion it, i know it's a lampoon, i just don't think they were nearly as vicious as they should have been
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at the date posted:Did you try to think of any answers at all to this stupid question before you posted it? did you
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Facebook ideally wants a 1:1 map between a person and an account (with maybe some exceptions for celebrities I dunno). this is because companies buy promoted posts and want those impressions to be displayed to real people. now you also have click farms (people also buy likes on the 'black' market. this is also against the TOS) liking a whole bunch of things to appear legitimate. those impressions are now being wasted and those accounts wont 'engage with your brand'.
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Forums Terrorist posted:did you How's this one: because I don't know any of you, nor do I want to.
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the real name thing would be a lot less objectionable if facebook's  datapile for you were treated the same way as a credit reporting agency - with the ability to demand a copy of it, file corrections, get notifications of adverse actions due to it (pricing, etc), and with the ability to freeze it to prevent any access to any information about you beyond "yup, that person exists".actually you know what? gently caress that. we need HIPAA level protections for all personally identifiable information no matter the use or source. burn all "big data" companies to the ground.
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Shifty Pony posted:actually you know what? gently caress that. we need HIPAA level protections for all personally identifiable information no matter the use or source. burn all "big data" companies to the ground. this is why the eff and everybody quit the FTC's face recognition board, the marketing and gov't representatives could literally not imagine a universe where there were even the most basic privacy protections
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Shifty Pony posted:and that's why you have the robot in glacial speed mode and someone with their hand over the emergency stop when teaching a robot. and why you loving lockout tagout poo poo when you do not absolutely need it to move. yeah when i worked at a semiconductor fab we had a guy get thrown through a wall by a robot, turned out he was defeating like 3 safety interlocks intentionally
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Ah yes, I'd like to request an agency panel review of the tags on a video of a terrier raping a chicken. I appear nowhere in this video; neither does Bethany Davis, even though she IS a total slut.
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cause suicide is painful all they'll recover is your ankle and you just shut down this assembly liiiiiine
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:like i'm not saying the series was trying to champion it, i know it's a lampoon, i just don't think they were nearly as vicious as they should have been the best part of silicon valley is that it's a pretty accurate portrayal and that still makes a bunch of people horrified/mad
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Shifty Pony posted:burn all "big data" companies to the ground.
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Shifty Pony posted:the real name thing would be a lot less objectionable if facebook's my firm was picked by the silicon valley innovation center to be the engineer of record for high tech civil infrastructure design and implementation among other things, we are going to be responsible for installing radar detectors for traffic signals in the bay area this is an improvement over the older induction loop detectors b/c they're more accurate, cheaper to maintain, and are able to make traffic measurements available to the traffic control center in realtime traffic measurements are things like determining the speed of vehicles traveling through the intersection, vehicle counts which include type, and automatic tracking of each vehicle as they travel through the camera network via their unique radar silhouettes
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but don't worry; city and private traffic engineers only want to persistently track your car in order to determine trip generation patterns and local traffic peaks and to sell to data collection companies for a little extra scratch
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:but don't worry; city and private traffic engineers only want to persistently track your car in order to determine trip generation patterns and local traffic peaks and to sell to data collection companies for a little extra scratch parkifi's office is literally 150 feet from here. surprised me when i walked past it yesterday
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kwinkles posted:yeah when i worked at a semiconductor fab we had a guy get thrown through a wall by a robot, turned out he was defeating like 3 safety interlocks intentionally maybe its because i actually program sensors for those robots but i'm always terrified to step over the giant red line even with the loving pendant
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how did they manufacture the first microprocessor anyway. this is some chicken and egg poo poo
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time travel, terminator was a documentary
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Shifty Pony posted:actually you know what? gently caress that. we need HIPAA level protections for all personally identifiable information no matter the use or source. burn all "big data" companies to the ground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8b4xYbEugo
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:traffic measurements are things like determining the speed of vehicles traveling through the intersection, vehicle counts which include type, and automatic tracking of each vehicle as they travel through the camera network via their unique radar silhouettes all these really need to do is keep all directions red until a gridlocked intersection is clear
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Necc0 posted:close the convo and open it back up again hey it works 
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qirex posted:all these really need to do is keep all directions red until a gridlocked intersection is clear there's an area of each approach to a signalized intersection called the dilemma zone instead of using a timer and traffic statistics and math to determine how long the yellow phase should be set for a light, these radar detectors can calculate it on the fly for each car (and adjust yellow times accordingly) which improves red light running and the crash rate, particularly rear enders
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:there's an area of each approach to a signalized intersection called the dilemma zone it'll be funny to see whatever quaint rich town you're installing this in rebel against actual data "we could redesign this awful intersection but adding a stoplight raises some concerns about the character of our lovely exburb I'm trying to pretend is an actual community" when they added the first stoplight in fairfax there were actual protests because they were proud of previously not having any
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