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Skoll posted:https://www.full30.com/video/dc1c563aa6b106f252dfe6a9d91ffd94 It looked like he only fired 5 or 6 shots (out of a magazine that probably holds 13ish) but the strobe taclight just makes it look like he's autofiring on the guy. edit: looks like closer to 7-8 shots
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Skoll posted:https://www.full30.com/video/dc1c563aa6b106f252dfe6a9d91ffd94 Usually administrative leave for officer involved in a shooting takes as long as the internal investigation and sometimes the local prosecutors review of the case to be done. It's department dependent though. How many rounds you fire isn't usually what determines one thing or another, but it can. Was a good shoot, and the officer in that video shot maybe 9-10 rounds tops? The other bangs are from the other officer. Not a full magazine dump.
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Jul 2, 2015 20:57
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Aside from letting that guy get in the crossfire good shoot. Should have just done a pat down in the bathroom.
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Jul 2, 2015 22:47
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POV of the other officer. Looks like in the heat of the moment she pulled a taser at first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSiqfM2GR4E
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Jul 2, 2015 23:05
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Basticle posted:POV of the other officer. Looks like in the heat of the moment she pulled a taser at first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSiqfM2GR4E one less dirtbag 
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Jul 3, 2015 00:00
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You guys would have nothing to do if alcohol didn't exist. Thank god it does though!
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Basticle posted:POV of the other officer. Looks like in the heat of the moment she pulled a taser at first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSiqfM2GR4E She probably didn't need to shoot there at the end but that was a pretty good under stress holster taser and draw gun.
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Jul 3, 2015 01:53
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She didn't need to not shoot either. 
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Jul 3, 2015 01:54
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Oh my god, watching that video is loving surreal. The whole time I was thinking, "Man, that voice sounds familiar... man, that place looks really familiar!" Turns out, that's the shooting that went down in my town last month. The male officer is a friend of mine, and he was just cleared for shooting. That dude tried to shoplift from Wal-Mart, got caught in the act, so he walked to a nearby restaurant where they found him. The weapon he pulled is a BB gun.
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Jul 3, 2015 02:48
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Captain Bravo posted:Oh my god, watching that video is loving surreal. The whole time I was thinking, "Man, that voice sounds familiar... man, that place looks really familiar!" Aww man, that's a bummer. I was hoping he was one of those guys that do those ridiculous close combat draws on YouTube and was just shown how bullshit they all are.
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Jul 3, 2015 02:53
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Dude was off his meds, there was a real shitstorm when his family got involved. But there's really no way to question Green's actions, like people are saying that was pretty much the textbook definition of a good shoot.
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Captain Bravo posted:Dude was off his meds, there was a real shitstorm when his family got involved. But there's really no way to question Green's actions, like people are saying that was pretty much the textbook definition of a good shoot. What was the family's take?
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JayKay posted:What was the family's take? He was a good Christian boy who was just trying to get his life together, he never hurt nobody & he was about to go back to school.
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Jul 3, 2015 03:15
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Rad Lieutenant posted:He was a good Christian boy who was just trying to get his life together, he never hurt nobody & he was about to go back to school. "The family has hired an attorney and is considering an excessive force lawsuit against the officers and department".
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Jul 3, 2015 03:21
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I don't think they will but lol that lawyer getting paaaid.
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Rad Lieutenant posted:He was a good Christian boy who was just trying to get his life together, he never hurt nobody & he was about to go back to school. Thought I read that he was 47 A few weeks ago there was a officer involved shooting in a city near me and the newspaper article the next day had this deliciousness: http://thecourier.com/local-news/2015/06/10/police-officer-shoots-kills-findlay-man/ quote:The incident was Findlay’s first police shooting since June 30, 1999, when J. Scott Patterson, then 38, was wounded in the leg and stomach by two police officers after Patterson refused to put down a .45-caliber rifle at his Snow Trail Drive residence. Neither officer was injured. Basticle fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Jul 3, 2015 |
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I wonder if the .45 caliber rifle was some dumb hi point carbine or if dude was wielding like a trap door springfield in .45-70.
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Oh man, I hope it was a Thompson  Basticle posted:Thought I read that he was 47 Yeah but still
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JayKay posted:What was the family's take? Basically, "It was just a BB gun, the officers weren't in actual danger and didn't need to use lethal force." I'm pretty sure they're not actually going to take it to court, because it would get shot down pretty fast, but they were still extremely pissed and made a big stink. Can't really blame them, either, since it's hard when a family member dies. Just a sad situation all around.
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Hot take: its really hard to differentiate between a BB gun and a real gun and I'm not gonna wait and see what kind of projectile comes flying at me.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Hot take: its really hard to differentiate between a BB gun and a real gun and I'm not gonna wait and see what kind of projectile comes flying at me. But you're a cop and you should be trained to tell the difference and also disarm the man without injury and why didn't they just shoot the BB GUN out of his hand 
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Rad Lieutenant posted:But you're a cop and you should be trained to tell the difference and also disarm the man without injury and why didn't they just shoot the BB GUN out of his hand You're not spinning it right, it's not a BB gun, it was just a toy. Why would the police shoot someone for carrying a toy of any kind?
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You forgot that he was only a kid
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Captain Bravo posted:Basically, "It was just a BB gun, the officers weren't in actual danger and didn't need to use lethal force." I'm pretty sure they're not actually going to take it to court, because it would get shot down pretty fast, but they were still extremely pissed and made a big stink. Can't really blame them, either, since it's hard when a family member dies. Just a sad situation all around. I guarantee that about 30 seconds after the guy was pronounced dead and his name given to the media lawyers swarmed on the family to convince them to sue the department because they will just settle out of court for a nice check.
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Branis posted:I guarantee that about 30 seconds after the guy was pronounced dead and his name given to the media lawyers swarmed on the family to convince them to sue the department because they will just settle out of court for a nice check. Can't stand that poo poo, and it happens all the time. I've seen several perfectly dismissable and completely bullshit lawsuits settled because "welp, it's cheaper for the city to just settle instead of pay the lawyers". All that does is embolden the the sue happy people and give more fodder to the anti police movement. "Seeeee another lawsuit settled because they know they did wrong!  ". When in reality the city did a cost basis analysis to see if it was just cheaper to settle and hang the department/officer out to dry instead of paying for litigation. Once cities start realizing they can counter sue after the cases are dismissed, things might turn around. Also you might get lucky and have a good prosecutors office. Ours just jacked a guy up on felony perjury charges for making an official sworn false complaint on an officer. .
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Hot take: its really hard to differentiate between a BB gun and a real gun and I'm not gonna wait and see what kind of projectile comes flying at me. You should have been able to tell by the orange tip, murderer!
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Skoll posted:You should have been able to tell by the orange tip, murderer! Man I forget the exact circumstances but we got a safety advisory about a year ago about a dude who was arrested with a real working glock that he'd painted an orange tip onto 
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Rad Lieutenant posted:Man I forget the exact circumstances but we got a safety advisory about a year ago about a dude who was arrested with a real working glock that he'd painted an orange tip onto I actually read awhile ago about some gangbangers who did that exact thing to their guns. Makes me wonder just how common it is.
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Isn't that part of the reason some states/western countries are pushing to make toy guns be clear plastic and also have an orange tip. At least that's the reason I heard for California trying (succeeding?) to do that. But anyway I was just thinking today how everyone in my shithole rural hometown hates copes despite the sherrif only showing up maybe twice a month at the most. Are there any county sherrif's in this thread. Is that a mostly rural area only thing or is that just everywhere and I'm the weird one for not hating police officers automatically.
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I should probably add that after talking with somebody today, turned out I was slightly wrong in what I said. He wasn't off his meds, he was off the wagon. Dude was an alcoholic, and incredibly drunk when the incident happened. (Incidentally, the item he was stealing which got the cops called on him was a case of beer.)
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Larry Parrish posted:I'm the weird one for not hating police officers automatically. I hate most police officers automatically so yeah you're weird
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Larry Parrish posted:Isn't that part of the reason some states/western countries are pushing to make toy guns be clear plastic and also have an orange tip. At least that's the reason I heard for California trying (succeeding?) to do that. Indeed they did, SB-199, and you should have heard some of the try-hard airsofters explode about "MY IMMERSION!". From what I understand it just involves putting more strips of color on replicas like on the stock, grip, and trigger guard... which can still be replicated with paint and tape on real guns so I'm not sure how much this will solve.
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I didn't realize airsoft was a thing outside high school kids doing drive bys to be funny with them until the youtube rabbit hole led me to these types of nerds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHPqCzckVOk They spend more money on fake guns and kit than 99% of real gun nerds spend on real guns and kit. The thing I don't get is none of them really look fat so they could enlist and do the real thing for free.
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What's worse, joining the army and dealing with all the retardedness it entails for however many years you sign your life away and come back with mental problems, or living with your mom into adulthood and being a pants pissing autist who tries to emulate being a mentally disturbed grizzled vet?
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Mike-o posted:What's worse, joining the army and dealing with all the retardedness it entails for however many years you sign your life away and come back with mental problems, or living with your mom into adulthood and being a pants pissing autist who tries to emulate being a mentally disturbed grizzled vet? Are you talking about that MARSOC guy who wasn't even American?
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Jul 4, 2015 04:13
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No, but I should have been. God speed you fat British tranny banger, wherever you are 
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Oh, IDR, what a fantastic train wreck http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3548716
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