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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Btw, no the caber can't one shot snipers at full health anymore.

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Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


People keep claiming the past updates have been pretty dire, but I don't think one has hosed up so many things as this one in the misguided idea they would make tons of money out of this contract stuff. Worse, it's probably working too, so they have no incentive to unfuck anything including the crippling of the server browser.

Toys For Ass Bum
Feb 1, 2015

So those cases for unboxing aren't available yet?
Because I noticed you can only search for "Craftsman" and "Teufort" collection weaps on the market. You can't search for the ones that come from cases ("Powerhouse" and "concealed killer").

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
I feel a little silly for linking this, but you can email Robin Walker with some brief and polite feed back about the server change.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Robin Walker hasn't worked on TF2 since Dota 2 came out, I believe.

Hats Wouldnt Fly
Feb 9, 2010

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Redfont is my hero.
I think the hope is he'll look across the room and yell at someone.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat

Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:

I think the hope is he'll look across the room and yell at someone.

Yeah I can't name the names of anyone working on tf2 right now plus those guys...apparently think this is a good idea?

parcs
Nov 20, 2011
I'm not sure why they added this weapon-pickup system to the game. I can only imagine it's "because CS:GO has it, and that game is making us a ton of money right now". That also explains why they introduced these lovely weapon skins.

pgroce
Oct 24, 2002
The only sensible reason I've seen for the server browser change is to prevent friends from stacking a server and farming contracts. So: can you still invite people to valve servers? If they want to stop that, they'll need to disable inviting, too.

Which is loving stupid. Valve is going to tear half of the working part of their game down to try to save a new, broken part. :/

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I can't connect to the Valve servers closest to me (Virginia) at all, fullstop now. I used to be able to occasionally do it using the server browser but I absolutely can't do it with quickplay. Even if Virginia servers show up at all (which isn't all the time) trying to join one just gives me "ERROR."

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Also apparently Badwater is broken.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Jack B Nimble posted:

I feel a little silly for linking this, but you can email Robin Walker with some brief and polite feed back about the server change.

Saoshyant posted:

Robin Walker hasn't worked on TF2 since Dota 2 came out, I believe.
Yeah, Robin's part of the Dota team nowadays. If you want to send comments, questions, scathing criticism, bug reports etc. to the TF2 staff, change the recipient on that page to Eric Smith or TF Team.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

pgroce posted:

The only sensible reason I've seen for the server browser change is to prevent friends from stacking a server and farming contracts. So: can you still invite people to valve servers? If they want to stop that, they'll need to disable inviting, too.

Which is loving stupid. Valve is going to tear half of the working part of their game down to try to save a new, broken part. :/

You can still join a server through quickplay if you want. It's just most people don't use it. What made valve servers good was that you could always find a game on the map you wanted.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Oh my loving god the update broke EVERY PAYLOAD MAP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBkyfcoh9-c

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Jippa posted:

You can still join a server through quickplay if you want. It's just most people don't use it. What made valve servers good was that you could always find a game on the map you wanted.

The Valve servers show up in the Steam server browser too, outside of the game.

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrjbeE90vVY

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Jack B Nimble posted:

I'm still downloading the update, but it can't mean what I think it means? I go to valve servers by clicking servers and adding the tag for valve servers, and refining the search any other way I want, latency or whatever. And that doesn't work now? And this is intentional?

Edit: Didn't I hear tf2 is maintained by six dudes in the CS:GO office area of valve? These guys, I'm just gonna go play something else and check back later to see if these guys can get their poo poo together.

I mean gently caress, is this a move towards preparing us for whatever method they'll use to host competitive matches? Do they feel that the admittedly old fashioned server menu is a relic? How about replacing it with something that works??

My favourite part about the server browser is how it locks up the entire game for 10 seconds every time I change any of the settings.

I mean this isn't exactly the way to fix it but poo poo's far from good.

pgroce
Oct 24, 2002

Jippa posted:

You can still join a server through quickplay if you want. It's just most people don't use it. What made valve servers good was that you could always find a game on the map you wanted.

We're agreeing on what they did, and why it sucks. I'm saying they did it to prevent friends blobbing up on Gun Mettle servers and farming contracts.

Which they can still do by joining through quickplay and spamming invites to friends. Which means they'd have to disable inviting, too. Or by (as xzzy pointed out) using the Steam server browser. So they'd have to implement the change in the Steam browser, too.

That's a lot of functionality they'll have to burn in order to prevent their precious new game mode from being exploitable. Assuming that's the point; as I said, it's the only sensible explanation I've seen.

The alternative is that they're being stupid for its own sake. I hope so, personally; at least then they might eventually revert the change.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Well I'm struggling to find games on granary, gully and process :( Normally I could easily find 3/4 running those maps and being almost full.

Lugaloco
Jun 29, 2011

Ice to see you!

I just sold some lovely worn scattergun skin thing for £6.00 on the marketplace that I thought would never sell. I'm now happy I bought that mettle pass.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010
Is there some secret to using the shield and melee as demoman because I have yet to land a single charge or anything as one. Normally I wouldn't care, but my Gun Mettle thing wants me to do melee kills.

El Burbo
Oct 10, 2012

Anatharon posted:

Is there some secret to using the shield and melee as demoman because I have yet to land a single charge or anything as one. Normally I wouldn't care, but my Gun Mettle thing wants me to do melee kills.

Use the splendid screen. It can do impact damage at any point in the charge which makes it easier to do a follow up kill with the sword of your choice

El Burbo
Oct 10, 2012

Also remember that you get a critical melee swing either at the very end of the charge or immediately after shield bashing an enemy.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Doing impact damage gives you guaranteed crits for a brief moment, that's the secret to the Screen's success.

E: gently caress you ^^

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Anatharon posted:

Is there some secret to using the shield and melee as demoman because I have yet to land a single charge or anything as one. Normally I wouldn't care, but my Gun Mettle thing wants me to do melee kills.

Like the half second after you run into someone, you get a free crit.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Am I going crazy or did I hear stephen merchant? I have voice chat disabled? It was in game on cp_gorge? Tell me I'm not going crazy.

Anthony Chuzzlewit
Oct 26, 2008

good for healthy


Fojar38 posted:

Btw, no the caber can't one shot snipers at full health anymore.

what

WHAT

WHY

Caber + sticky jumper is so goddamn fun :(

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

He voices the Ap-Sap, an alternate sapper for the Spy.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Caber right now does barely more damage than a normal melee hit.

Bob Locke
Dec 31, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

Caber right now does barely more damage than a normal melee hit.

This is criminal.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

Caber right now does barely more damage than a normal melee hit.

I just came back for this? :( What the gently caress... I'm not even angry, just sad.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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good

bara godzilla
Jul 27, 2010

Arctos
May 10, 2008
Seems like Valve's giving out new contracts. Just got my 3rd!

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
honestly in my opinion the damage should definitely have dropped, but they should make it have like some dumb long recharge timer (like, 12 seconds). the two problems with the ullapool caber were that once per life/cabinet is kind of a bad mechanic, and it had to have idiotic damage to compensate for it. now why would you?

IncendiaC
Sep 25, 2011

Arctos posted:

Seems like Valve's giving out new contracts. Just got my 3rd!

Just got a third one too after finishing both my previous contracts earlier today.

Also, thank god for Upward and braindead soldiers. Finished my Pyro contract in a single round as Red.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
For the record if I want to play comp match making do I need to buy contracts or does having an old account cover me? I know they want to keep out hackers on low hours f2p accounts but I'm not sure how they will implement it?

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
Item server down for anyone else?


Jippa posted:

For the record if I want to play comp match making do I need to buy contracts or does having an old account cover me? I know they want to keep out hackers on low hours f2p accounts but I'm not sure how they will implement it?

The rumour (AFAIK, Star_ said it and he's been to visit Valve recently and knows a bunch of people who do regularly) said to access competitive multiplayer, you'll need to have a leveled up coin. Presumably, this is to discourage hackers: they'd need to spend money and then also play the account for a few weeks.

Zero!
Apr 13, 2011

You're gonna have to try a little harder than THAT.
The item schema currently has a Competitive Matchmaking Beta Pass, though there's currently no way to acquire one. I don't think anyone outside of Valve knows how they'll manage the final release but the matchmaking beta might just be an in-game store purchase.

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mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012


What is wrong with you?

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