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ToiletDuckie posted:Carrier question: once every ten games or so, I'll run into someone that can have their torpedo planes drop in a wave instead of the normal parallel drop. It's almost like the planes are turning as they drop or maybe dropping at the same point sequentially. It happens when they use auto drop on a target that is turning. It screws up the arc so the torpedoes go all over the place not in a line but generally towards the same point and you can't do it while manually dropping. That's if I'm thinking of what you mean.
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wdarkk posted:So uh which Tier 4 skill is best for Japanese Cruisers? I feel like I really, really use HE a lot since I'm shooting at DDs a fair amount. Heck I've never been able to get good at getting Citadels at all. On the other hand "More AA" and "not needing to blow repair the instant your stern gets hit" sound good too. Probably Demolition Expert, but it's down to personal choice. IJN cruisers just don't have particularly great AA suites, so I feel boosting their range is okay, but ultimately pretty eh. And the second part is basically worthless at the higher tiers, as you no longer have the guns it applies to. Last Stand sounds good, but at the higher tiers it's both less likely and less important for them to be shot out. I've also not seen what exactly the degraded capability corresponds to, as they give no numbers. Them working at 50% capacity is pretty good; them working at 10% is basically worthless. Still, assuming it leans towards that higher amount you could make an argument for the skill.
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When is it a good idea to switch from HE to AP? I'm currently only at tier 3 and haven't got a battleship yet. I can't see an advantage to AP that trumps constantly setting everything on fire and breaking guns with HE. Is it just effective due to the low tiers involved?
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xthetenth posted:French actually. Spica-class "large torpedo boat" as a T2 or T3 destroyer, please. Some of those tiny buggers did hilarious things.  Peavey posted:When is it a good idea to switch from HE to AP? I'm currently only at tier 3 and haven't got a battleship yet. I can't see an advantage to AP that trumps constantly setting everything on fire and breaking guns with HE. Is it just effective due to the low tiers involved? In a battleship: Always unless you're up against a destroyer. In a cruiser with 8in guns: At long range against a BB or at any range agianst other cruisers. In a cruiser with 6in guns: At short range against other cruisers that aren't named St. Louis. In a DD: Haha, never. Well, I guess if you're very close up against a Chikuma, Tenryu, Kuma, Phoenix or Omaha. But evne that's questionable. Once you learn to get citadel hits, you'll do magical things that make enemy ships dissapear.
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DDs can load AP if they're close enough to shake hands with an enemy cruiser. Longer out if the CA is named Tenryuu, Kuma, Phoenix, or Pensacola (assuming you have a DD that is close to tier of the Pepsicola). You could probably whip it out sooner on most CAs, but those ones are special as they have fairly easy to hit citadels, and its worth going for instead of splashing HE on them hoping to knock out some guns and survive longer while your torps or smoke reloads to bail out. You usually shouldn't get in a gun fight with a cruiser, even if you're uptiered as a US DD, but sometimes it becomes inevitable. Swap to AP if you're desperate, as well. If you're going to die and you need a miracle to turn the game around, whipping out AP and potentially ammo racking somebody on a lucky turret penetration could be a game-changer. Never shoot AP at a DD. You can pen them with HE and citadel, and you'll knock out more modules (especially the rudder) with HE's superior effective range. You also don't run the risk of overpenning and wasting your shells.
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Didn't one of the beta patches basically remove citadel damage from destroyers to improve survivability? There is no reason to shoot AP at them unless that is what is loaded and you do not have the -30% reload speed while switching ammo type in loaded guns captain skill.
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Jul 5, 2015 05:25
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Gort posted:I'm in the same boat - I just started playing yesterday and the South Carolina is the funnest ship I own. I don't think battleships are my style. Whenever I play my South Carolina on the road to carriers I always feel like the fat kid on the one speed bicycle. I miss my Minekaze when I play battleships. I did notice that the Minekaze turrets are painfully slow to traverse. It's the balance against the long range torps of course. And I don't know if I like the Minekaze's 10km slower torps.
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grrarg posted:Didn't one of the beta patches basically remove citadel damage from destroyers to improve survivability? There is no reason to shoot AP at them unless that is what is loaded and you do not have the -30% reload speed while switching ammo type in loaded guns captain skill. Correct, they basically just have hitboxes where you can knock out components or hit their magazine.
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I like the Chester and St. Louis solely because they have that Great White Fleet-era ornateness about them that later ships lack. 
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grrarg posted:Didn't one of the beta patches basically remove citadel damage from destroyers to improve survivability? There is no reason to shoot AP at them unless that is what is loaded and you do not have the -30% reload speed while switching ammo type in loaded guns captain skill. Hazdoc posted:Never shoot AP at a DD. You can pen them with HE and citadel, and you'll knock out more modules (especially the rudder) with HE's superior effective range. You also don't run the risk of overpenning and wasting your shells.
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Ofaloaf posted:I like the Chester and St. Louis solely because they have that Great White Fleet-era ornateness about them that later ships lack. I really hope we get a premium St. Louis one of these days with fresh white paint and all the trim sparkling.
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Jul 5, 2015 06:02
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You know, I have to admit when I'm wrong - I really expected WG to pull a "buy the temporarily-removed premiums for cash" thing over the holiday weekend, but they didn't. So a bit of credit is due. Doesn't mean they still might not do it, though.
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Jul 5, 2015 07:09
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A special Chinese battleship with the guns removed and replaced with catapults to launch Type 59s at the enemy.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:A special Chinese battleship with the guns removed and replaced with catapults to launch Type 59s at the enemy. And it looks like the turtle boat
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What are people picking for their 1-point skill for carriers? Basics of Survivability seems like the better choice, but Basic Firing Training seems like it could be decently useful too, given carriers both have good AA to begin with and are almost always priority targets for other carriers. Expert Rear Gunner seems like it might be at least okay too, but I have no real idea just how much self-defense armament rear gunners have in the first place for it to boost.
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Jul 5, 2015 10:12
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I took the +AA one because I'm going down US CVs which have good AA, and I feel that while being able to put out fire and flooding faster sounds good on paper, in practice in a CV if you're in either of those two states it's not really going to help since you either got attacked from the air in which case your repair will be back up by the time they're back, or you're getting shot at by an enemy ship in which case being able to put out a fire 15% faster isn't going to help you very much anyway. The rear gunner one seems completely pointless because I think I've seen bombers shoot down something a total of like, one time ever and I don't think +10% effectiveness or whatever is going to change that.
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Jul 5, 2015 10:57
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First game in the New Mexico: 1,916 exp loss, confederate, and 122k damage. This is gonna be a good boat.
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What captain skills should I be going for?
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Gort posted:What captain skills should I be going for? Depends what class of ship that Captain is going to stick with. US + IJN Battleships and Cruisers: Basic Firing Training, Aiming Expert, Superintendent, Advanced Firing Training, then I'm not yet sure what else. Torpedo Armament Expertise has value for IJN cruisers only. US + IJN Destroyers: Situational Awareness, Torpedo Armament Expertise, Superintendent, Concealment Expert, and then it gets murky with demolition expert and last stand having appeal, aiming expert is useful on IJN destroyers but completely wasted on US destroyers Carriers you want Torpedo Armament Expertise and the 3, 4 and 5 plane ones, but as above the 1 skill depends on the 1 plane skill actually being worth it, or just boosting your AA a bit NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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Insert name here posted:The rear gunner one seems completely pointless because I think I've seen bombers shoot down something a total of like, one time ever and I don't think +10% effectiveness or whatever is going to change that. I have it on my IJN captain, and I have had quite a few times where my bomber squadron has killed 1-2 equal level fighters chasing after them.
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You don't need Superintendent on cruisers because only consumable with limited charge is plane. Also Cleveland's 6 inch bouncing off Aoba at 3 km 
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Has anyone gotten one of these yet?  probably but I want to feel special   As you can see, I certainly didn't kill those 4 ships. My team had a healthy point lead but then they all melted, leaving 5 enemy ships against 2 of us in destroyers. My last teammate died right after I torpedoed a St. Louis that was trying to cap, and then the rest of the match was me hanging out near our last cap point as the battleships slooooowly trundled towards it. Aesis posted:You don't need Superintendent on cruisers because only consumable with limited charge is plane. Yeah I'd go with High Alert or Vigilance for a rank 3 skill.
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I've already picked it on my Cruiser captains, and I'm not about to waste gold changing it, so I guess I'll be using a lot of float planes
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Tier 9 and 10 cruisers get the battleship repair ability which has limited charges, so it will be useful then, but until then, yeah...
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No idea how Fire Prevention works, but even with DCP it just doesn't seem to prevent fire that much. e: You know how Wargaming could rake in more money? Gold for extra commander skill points  War thunder already does it so Wargaming won't be the first to do it.
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Did they break all of the "aim assist" mods, or are some still working? Because getting that one guy in a Phoenix/Omaha who manages to land every single salvo on your wildly dancing destroyer at 13km every 3 or 4 battles is really loving annoying.
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NTRabbit posted:Did they break all of the "aim assist" mods, or are some still working? Aesis fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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I finally got into this game. I tried to get into the closed beta but it never seemed to happen. World of Warships is a lot of fun, but like others have said very different from World of Tanks. Right now it is very hard not to resist the urge to do suicide torpedo runs with my Clemson. Once people told me, "If you target an enemy ship while your torpedoes are armed, you get a 'lead' indicator" I've sank so many ships with torpedoes. I think the first BB I sank was like the second time I ever used Destroyers, which was pretty exciting. But I do have some questions: -What exactly does upgrading Fire Control do? Just boost your maximum range a bit? Its hard to notice a difference. -People explained the difference between using HE and AP, but so far every time I use AP it does almost no damage to ships. And its not 'over penetrating' most of this time; it indicates I've scored hits, but just no damage. So far I haven't gotten any of those impressive citadel hits people mentioned. -How is the grind compared to World of Tanks? So far I have a St. Louis and a Clemson. I also had pre-ordered a month of premium through amazon which I didn't remember doing, so I know I'm at least getting bonus money/exp. But since I just started playing yesterday I haven't gotten any of those insanely good 1,000+ exp games; I can sink a ship or two and compared to WoT I actually survive far more battles in this game. But even at tier 3 its looking like a long grind. -How much fun are carriers? I used to play Navyfield for years and LOVED playing Carriers, it was like playing a completely different game. Is Carrier play in Warships similar to how it was in Navyfield?
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I'd say carriers actually do play close to Navyfield, since the game gives you a top down view when you're doing plane stuff. Right now is a good time to start the Japanese CV lines because nothing had AA at low level and not that many people are doing the fighter focused US lines yet.
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Fire control: Increase max range for main turret. Doesn't do anything else. However it is useful as current game flow is just clustering up and shooting at near-max range. AP: Hit doesn't mean penetration. So if you're getting no damage then the shells bounced. Grind: Worse than WoT because it takes at least twice longer per game while xp reward and requirements remain similar. I've played for 25+ hours but only managed to play 152 games and get 200k xp. Also lower tiers get lower xp. e: If AP shells penetrate but over-penetrates, doesn't crit hit or doesn't damage citadel then it'll do minimum damage. Aesis fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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If he played Navyfield seriously, no grind could possibly compare. *Grinds PVE mission 100 times over five hours, tries veteran conversion ten times, fails every one, now worse than when I started*
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I managed to get a perfect torp run this morning and hit 5/6. Sadly, it was on a teammate. 
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I forgot about about vet conversion in that game. WoWs is automatically better based on that alone.
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Aesis posted:Fire control: Increase max range for main turret. Doesn't do anything else. However it is useful as current game flow is just clustering up and shooting at near-max range. Should be yes but I played 8 games late last night and lost every one of them. No-one would sail together, my teams just drove one after the other into the waiting packs of opposition. Related question: anyone on the EU server playing WoWS?
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I guess they were as bored as I am, except I don't drive into the pack e: 1.6k base xp on win with Atago for doing only 30k damage and stopping 63 points of cap  Not the brightest Fubuki player I've seen. He just sat in cap doing nothing even when it was obvious I was inside cap to stop capture.
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How are people getting these insane amounts of xp? I sink 3 other cruisers in my St. Louis, we win, yet I'm only getting about 350xp.
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Panfilo posted:How are people getting these insane amounts of xp? I sink 3 other cruisers in my St. Louis, we win, yet I'm only getting about 350xp. Check and make sure you aren't playing against Bots. Those are typical numbers for co-op battles.
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