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MalcolmSheppard
Jun 24, 2012
MATTHEW 7:20
I've said it before: The litmus test of whether a social system works is "Can you replicate a romantic comedy?" Because romantic comedies are generally not about one character bringing sufficient inducements and social power to generate attraction. It's about two characters who are attracted to each other going through various pratfalls trying to properly express themselves and build trust. Love isn't winning a thing. It's making a thing. Beyond this, there's so much fiction about building trust, forming an effective team and so on that are not served by power-over social systems that games' lack of relationship construction systems is a notable in its absence.

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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Bedlamdan posted:

:stare: that's not in the leak at all, you incredible weirdo
:eng101: Learn how to read a sentence in english, you incredible illiterate

Thesaurasaurus
Feb 15, 2010

"Send in Boxbot!"

FMguru posted:

:eng101: Learn how to read a sentence in english, you incredible illiterate

Revlid is not on the writing team. He is purely a fan contributor who, it must be said, is pretty good at spinning decent crunch out of the shitshow that is Exalted 2E mechanics, but who also has a bad habit of occasionally injecting his horrible fetishes into things.

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Thesaurasaurus posted:

Revlid is not on the writing team. He is purely a fan contributor who, it must be said, is pretty good at spinning decent crunch out of the shitshow that is Exalted 2E mechanics, but who also has a bad habit of occasionally injecting his horrible fetishes into things.

Oh, so that's what it was about?

FMguru posted:

:eng101: Learn how to read a sentence in english, you incredible illiterate

It's just some weirdo's homebrew stuff, guy! He's not an actual writer for it.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Thesaurasaurus posted:

a bad habit of occasionally injecting his horrible fetishes into things.
Dare you enter his magical realm?

LatwPIAT
Jun 6, 2011

Thesaurasaurus posted:

Revlid is not on the writing team. He is purely a fan contributor who, it must be said, is pretty good at spinning decent crunch out of the shitshow that is Exalted 2E mechanics, but who also has a bad habit of occasionally injecting his horrible fetishes into things.

Revlid is a friend, so... uh... could you elaborate on this? It's news to me. I've heard other criticisms of Revlid's work. I've not heard this one.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

MalcolmSheppard posted:

I've said it before: The litmus test of whether a social system works is "Can you replicate a romantic comedy?" Because romantic comedies are generally not about one character bringing sufficient inducements and social power to generate attraction. It's about two characters who are attracted to each other going through various pratfalls trying to properly express themselves and build trust. Love isn't winning a thing. It's making a thing. Beyond this, there's so much fiction about building trust, forming an effective team and so on that are not served by power-over social systems that games' lack of relationship construction systems is a notable in its absence.

Well in Monsterhearts you can't do romantic comedy (except in the schandenfraude-y kind of way I guess) if everyone's doing it RAW, since you're encouraged to make it uncomfortable and angsty and basically like a teenage supernatural romance story but with self-awareness that teenagers are assholes, but that said you can basically replicate those kind of books and related media. You could quite easily do Romeo and Juliet, for example, through a series of game-encouraged horrible decisions.

Thesaurasaurus
Feb 15, 2010

"Send in Boxbot!"

LatwPIAT posted:

Revlid is a friend, so... uh... could you elaborate on this? It's news to me. I've heard other criticisms of Revlid's work. I've not heard this one.

Sure.

Revlid posted:

Ostrich Stomach Alchemy
Cost: 2m; Mins: Essence 3, Stamina 3; Type: Simple
Keywords: None
Duration: Inde nite
Prerequisites: , Scorpion and Toad Absolution (Revlid)
The Lunars innards shift into multiple stomachs, connected and twisted about
each other; the substances she consumes gurgle and brew as though running through
alchemical filters and
flasks. This womb may be used as a fully stocked, mobile
masters Craft (Water) lab that supplies all tools within its functions, though the
Lunar uses Stamina in the place of Dexterity for the purposes of crafting rolls made
using it. Exotic ingredients must be ingested for them to be used, routed through
the Lunars system to be digested and brewed. If an ingested ingredient would be
poisonous to the Lunar, she suffers a single dose upon swallowing it, but otherwise
can use it as normal. If the brewed project would itself be poisonous to her, it
inflicts a single dose of itself at each crafting interval; Scorpion and Toad Absolution
and Black Apple Bliss are likely necessary for any Lunar intending to brew poisons,
while Moonsilver Stomach Conversion may be necessary to consume certain exotic
ingredients.
The Lunar may keep the completed concoction inside her body for as long as this
Charm is active, and when the comes to do so she may expel it in any manner she sees
fit as a Speed 3 miscellaneous action, including smearing it onto a weapon or digesting
it herself. The rolls to brew her potions may be made independent of anything else
the Lunar is doing (indeed, she need not even be conscious), though they cannot be
made while engaged in strenuous activity. The Lunar may only have one such project
active at once.
It should be noted that this Charm offers no additional defence against foreign
substances; brewing poisons, plagues or acids in ones gut without appropriate pro-
tection is unwise. The Lunar is treated as having complete existing plans for any
substance or disease she has already consumed or survived.
At Essence 4+, this Charm automatically upgrades, allowing the Lunars alchemical
digestive system to act as a complete workshop for thaumaturgical rituals from the
Art of Alchemy, obviating the need for tools and rituals (the Lunar must still consume
the requisite materials, or pay the substitute cost in motes).
Source: Revlid

Okay, kinda weird, but internal alchemy is a thing in the source material, so this seems thematically-appr-

Revlid posted:

Spawning-Pool Body
Cost: 2m; Mins: Essence 3, Stamina 4; Type: Simple
Keywords: Obvious
Duration: Inde nite
Prerequisites: Ostrich-Stomach Alchemy, Fish or Fowl Gestation
The Lunars guts churn and writhe, as the process of moulding
flesh is refined and curdled within her. For the duration of this Charm, the Lunar manifests a
supernatural womb-lab somewhere on her body. This may take any form the steward
desires, from a mundane-seeming belly, swollen with growing life, to a grotesque
tumour hanging from her back.
This womb-lab may be used as a fully stocked,
mobile masters Craft (Genesis) lab that supplies all tools within its functions. Exotic
ingredients must be ingested for them to be used, routed through the Lunars system
to the nascent creature (the reproductive material of appropriate powerful individuals
is a perfect exotic ingredient for such a project
, and results in the birthed creature
counting as the donors offspring, as well as the Lunars). The rolls to develop the
project may be made independent of anything else the Lunar is doing (indeed, they
need not even be conscious), though they cannot be made while engaged in strenuous
activity. The Lunar is treated as having complete existing plans for any creature
within her Hearts Blood library.
This Charm has no restriction on gender; does not Luna herself often appear as
a pregnant male? However, a Lunar in a form naturally capable of bearing a child
can hide the Obvious nature of the Charm by altering the functions of their natural
womb rather than creating a new one obviously, this is not possible if they are already
pregnant. Similarly, there are no restrictions on size, as the womb-lab distends to hold
all manner of monstrous children. If the creature within the Lunar would normally
be too large for her to bear, it is assumed that it will rapidly grow once birthed, or
slough together from a number of component chunks the womb-lab does not grow
large enough that it impedes the Lunars movement.
The womb-lab may hold only
one project at a time, and does not affect the Lunars necessary food intake, as the
creature growing inside her is nourished by her Essence alone.
Once the project is completed, the creature emerges into the world, tearing itself
out of the Lunars womb-lab
, being expelled through an open pore like the offspring
of a surinam toad, or being birthed more conventionally. Regardless of the method
of its exit, it causes no harm to the Lunar; even a burst-open chest will seal itself as
a cosmetic injury.
Just as with a natural pregnancy, Crippling amputation effects (such as a maiming
coup de grace) may be used to target and abort a creature in the womb-lab
, reducing it
to a messy silver fluid. If the Lunar is carrying more than one creature at once thanks
to an upgrade Charm, each Crippling effect only destroys a single creature, chosen
by the Lunar herself upon the application of the effect. Ending this Charm before
the completion of a project has much the same effects, ending all extant projects
prematurely.
A Lunar in a form capable of bearing children naturally may also use this Charm
to conceive immaculately, impregnating herself with an otherwise normal baby (preg-
nancy counts as a project, blocking the use of the womb-lab for its duration). The
gestation period for such a child is as normal for the Lunar, and if she wishes she
may have the child bear beastman mutations (or be an intelligent animal) appropriate
to her spirit-shape. This pregnancy requires no mote commitment, being natural in
every way but its beginning.
If the Lunar knows Ichneumon and Cuckoo Method, she may use that Charm to
transplant one of her projects (at any stage) into the target. The project develops just
as though it were being grown within the Lunar, with rolls made at the usual intervals
using her unmodified traits (she may not use Excellencies or other such Charms to
enhance crafting rolls for fostered projects).
If the Lunar knows Many-Pockets Meditation (or similar Charms allowing the
exploitation of Elsewhere) she may treat her womb-lab as a valid target for that
Charm, sending it into Elsewhere and removing its Obvious signs on her body. Its
operations continue as normal while it is Elsewhere, though it is no longer a valid
target for Crippling amputation effects, for obvious reasons.
At Essence 4+, this Charm automatically upgrades, allowing the Lunars alchemical
digestive system to act as a complete workshop for thaumaturgical rituals from the
Arts of Husbandry and Biothaumaturgy, obviating the need for tools and rituals (the
Lunar must still consume the requisite materials, or pay the substitute cost in motes).
Source: Revlid

Uh...

Revlid posted:

Fox-Mother's Rebirth Technique
Cost: ; Mins: Essence 3, Stamina 5; Type: Permanent
Keywords: Shaping
Duration: Permanent
Prerequisites: Spawning-Pool Body
The Lunar may move another living character of roughly the same size as her
or smaller into her womb-lab as a miscellaneous action, whether by opening up a
gaping pore or simply swallowing them
. Such a character must be either willing or
incapacitated, but once within the liquid stasis of the womb they become inactive (if
they were not already) and remain that way until ejected. Once a character is in the
womb, the Lunar may work on them as the basis of a Genesis project (ensuring that
the resultant creature will have the memories and soul of the base character), or as
the subject of Medicine rolls.
More simply, she may apply permanent mutations to them as a Shaping effect. She
rolls (Intelligence + Craft: Genesis or Stamina), and the target gains or loses points
of mutations no greater than her rolled successes. As always, poxes and deficiencies
are one point, afflictions and debilities are two points, blights and deformities are four
points, and abominations are six points. These mutations are applied at a rate of
one point per hour. The Lunar may choose to end this mutating process early, but
only completed mutations are applied (or removed); she cannot swap out? four hours
worth of an abomination for a blight, for example. Wyld mutations may be removed
as normal with this Charm, and the Lunar may choose whether or not to have any
mutations she applies act as Wyld mutations.
Once the project is complete or the mutations have been applied, the swallowed
character is birthed as normal. Aside from being mutated, they are in perfect health.
If the project is aborted with a Crippling effect, the character in question is imme-
diately ejected, unchanged (although they are incapacitated, with the appropriately
filled health levels).
If the Lunar knows Time-Bending Chrysalis, then she may use Bear Sleep Tech-
nique to target the character within her womb, regressing his aging at the normal
rate.
Source: Revlid

...uhhhhhhhh...

Revlid posted:

Surinam Laboratory Expansion
Cost: ; Mins: Essence 3, Stamina 5; Type: Permanent
Keywords: None
Duration: Permanent
Prerequisites: Ostrich-Stomach Alchemy
Tribes of beastmen stretch across Creation, diverse and unaffiliated with each
other, from the family-oriented sharkmen of the West, to the rag-and-bone hyenamen
of the South, to the Sidereal-duped boarmen of the East, to the nomadic and frus-
trated foxmen of the North, to the ingenious ratmen who feud against the Darkbrood
beneath the Blessed Isle. Each was spawned from a Lunar, who in turn owe their
spiritual existence to Luna, forming a family tree of immense proportions even before
one considers the many behemoths created by Lunar experimentation through the
First Age and beyond.
This Charm permanently enhances both its prerequisite and Spawning-Pool Body,
allowing the Lunar to brew multiple potions and bear multiple creature-projects
within herself at once, whether by allowing her monstrous children to coexist in her
belly, or growing multiple swollen wombs to hold her creations
(too many projects
within one body at once will obviate even the most cunning attempts to hide the
Obvious nature of the Charm). Though Craft (Water) projects are seldom hugely
burdensome, carrying multiple Genesis projects can be a strain; each one after the
first inflicts a cumulative mobility penalty of -1 on the Lunar.
The total Artifact rating of all the projects within the Lunar may never exceed
(Stamina x2). For the purposes of concoctions with a Resource rather than an Artifact
value, every three Resource dots are treated as a single Artifact dot. These projects
may be worked on concurrently, but if the Lunar chooses to split her attentions in
this way then each roll for each project suffers an internal penalty equal to a third of
the number of concurrent projects, rounded down.
The maximum number of concurrent projects is increased to (Stamina x3) if the
Lunars body is large enough for them to be counted as a mass combat unit, which also
reduces any mobility penalties they may suffer from carried projects by (Stamina).
The maximum is increased again to (Stamina x5) if they reach landscape-scale, with
mobility penalties being eliminated entirely.

Source: Revlid

:catstare:

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
Grognards.txt NEXT: Crippling amputation effects may be used to target and abort a creature in the womb-lab

Serf
May 5, 2011


Ho-lee poo poo

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Move over, Japan.

Serf posted:

Ho-lee poo poo

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

... the Aristocrats!

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Narrative power is a term folks like you throw out that means next to nothing in a DM managed game. No class has narrative power in a DM managed game other than the DM gives them. You don't get to tell me to make stuff up at your whim. You can ask a DM. Maybe he does it, maybe he doesn't. If you want to play a game where another person's mind is controlling the world, then you must abide by what he feels like doing. It doesn't matter if you're a fighter or a wizard as far as narrative control goes.

You just replied with "I got nothing. So I'll be a jerk about it." That's fine because you got nothing. 4E did nothing more to give martials narrative power than did previous editions. I did read the 4E PHB. That's why I know that is the case.

3E martials could affect the world far more than 4E martials. Feats were often more powerful than 4E powers. Maybe you didn't know how to build characters very well, that's why you didn't see that in 3E. Martials that knew how to build characters in 3E, they were as hard to build encounters for as casters. Their damage output put 4E martials to shame. Their feats allowed them to do amazing things that far exceed what a 4E martial could accomplish.

Once again, you got nothing. If you want to go rounds with me comparing the power of a 3E martial equivalent to a 4E martial equivalent, we can do that, especially if you want to incorporate Pathfinder which boosted martial power quite a bit from the already extreme 3.5 range.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

alg posted:

Narrative power is a term folks like you throw out that means next to nothing in a DM managed game. No class has narrative power in a DM managed game other than the DM gives them. You don't get to tell me to make stuff up at your whim. You can ask a DM. Maybe he does it, maybe he doesn't. If you want to play a game where another person's mind is controlling the world, then you must abide by what he feels like doing. It doesn't matter if you're a fighter or a wizard as far as narrative control goes.

Sometimes, I think one of the key problems with this hobby is the insane idea that the Dungeon Master is a mighty, privileged position of power that lets him rain down poo poo on everyone else. The whole 'I am the DM, I get to choose exactly what happens all the time!' mindset needs to die more than anything else. You're playing a game with your friends, damnit! You're making up poo poo together and trying to make it fun. It's not Great God-King Bob and The 4 Captive Idiots Who Amuse Him.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!
Reminder - that poster in question bragged about how none of his friends wanted to see movies with him because he'd spend the whole time snidely looking for plot holes or calling out cliches. He takes pride in being insufferable; it means he is "better."

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

Feats were often more powerful than 4E powers.

I was reading through 3.5 Complete Warrior (while pooping) and I came across this gem:

quote:

Elusive Target [Tactical]
Trying to land a blow against you can be a maddening experience

Prerequisites: Dodge, Mobility, base attack bonus +6

Benefit: The Elusive Target feat enables the use of three tactical maneuvers.

Negate Power Attack: To use this maneuver, you must designate a specific for to be affected by your Dodge feat. If that foe uses the Power Attack against you, the foe gains no bonus on the damage roll but still takes the corresponding penalty on the attack roll.

Now, there's actually two more things you can do with this feat, but I stopped reading there, because holy loving poo poo are you kidding me? The DM has to create a monster with Power Attack, AND he has to use it, AND you have to know which one it is, AND it's the equivalent of giving the monster an attack roll penalty, AND it's for a feat that you're already two deep and six levels into prerequisites for.

I mean what the gently caress. Now when the grog you quoted says "Maybe you didn't know how to build characters very well, that's why you didn't see that in 3E.", I know he means scouring the internet for builds made by people who already did it better because they had the free time to avoid loving bullshit like Elusive Target.

LatwPIAT
Jun 6, 2011

Thesaurasaurus posted:

Sure.


Okay, kinda weird, but internal alchemy is a thing in the source material, so this seems thematically-appr-


Uh...


...uhhhhhhhh...


:catstare:

I talked to Revlid and this is what he has to say on the matter:

Revlid posted:

That was like the first set of Charms I wrote, and it just let you make stuff by eating the raw materials. Eat iron, spit out a sword, for instance. Then there was an upgrade as a direct follow-on to Lunar Charms introduced in Glories, which was stuff like "hey now you can gently caress animals outside the wyld good for you", and so was "Mother of Monsters"/Luna-as-preggers-dude Genesis tech.

Then I ported that into Kimbery because I'm lazy.

Like, I'm not mad. People can fap to what they want to fap to. But that's a weird claim to make about my proclivities.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Night10194 posted:

Sometimes, I think one of the key problems with this hobby is the insane idea that the Dungeon Master is a mighty, privileged position of power that lets him rain down poo poo on everyone else. The whole 'I am the DM, I get to choose exactly what happens all the time!' mindset needs to die more than anything else. You're playing a game with your friends, damnit! You're making up poo poo together and trying to make it fun. It's not Great God-King Bob and The 4 Captive Idiots Who Amuse Him.

Anything to make it feel less like a job, eh?

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Night10194 posted:

Sometimes, I think one of the key problems with this hobby is the insane idea that the Dungeon Master is a mighty, privileged position of power that lets him rain down poo poo on everyone else. The whole 'I am the DM, I get to choose exactly what happens all the time!' mindset needs to die more than anything else. You're playing a game with your friends, damnit! You're making up poo poo together and trying to make it fun. It's not Great God-King Bob and The 4 Captive Idiots Who Amuse Him.

But can your loser storygames let me kill the party for any reason whenever I wish? :smug:

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



ProfessorCirno posted:

Reminder - that poster in question bragged about how none of his friends wanted to see movies with him because he'd spend the whole time snidely looking for plot holes or calling out cliches. He takes pride in being insufferable; it means he is "better."
Wait a minute, I think I know that guy. He doesn't live near Philly, does he?

Thesaurasaurus
Feb 15, 2010

"Send in Boxbot!"

LatwPIAT posted:

I talked to Revlid and this is what he has to say on the matter:

I will grant that this stuff was totally in-keeping with what WW itself was publishing at the time, so. Apologies to Revlid, fifteen-odd years of elfgaming and internetting have lead me to assume material like this is Someone's FetishTM until proven otherwise.

(still not something I'd want in Exalted's elevator pitch to friends and family)

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

LatwPIAT posted:

I talked to Revlid and this is what he has to say on the matter:

Eat raw iron, spit out a sword is one thing. Create a new creature out of raw essence by shaping plant matter and meat and poo poo you ate is still pretty okay cause that's the sort of poo poo mythologies are made out of.

He spent multiple paragraphs describing intricate womb labs. Stating that eating god-spunk is the best way to sire your child. Stating that there's no limit to the size of the child and if it's too big you'll just pop it out in self assembling chunks. Then it went on to start lovingly describing unbirthing and age regression and swelling to the size of a mountain so you can house an entire panalopy of wombs inside your massive bulk.

Sailor Viy
Aug 4, 2013

And when I can swim no longer, if I have not reached Aslan's country, or shot over the edge of the world into some vast cataract, I shall sink with my nose to the sunrise.

Kurieg posted:

Eat raw iron, spit out a sword is one thing. Create a new creature out of raw essence by shaping plant matter and meat and poo poo you ate is still pretty okay cause that's the sort of poo poo mythologies are made out of.

He spent multiple paragraphs describing intricate womb labs. Stating that eating god-spunk is the best way to sire your child. Stating that there's no limit to the size of the child and if it's too big you'll just pop it out in self assembling chunks. Then it went on to start lovingly describing unbirthing and age regression and swelling to the size of a mountain so you can house an entire panalopy of wombs inside your massive bulk.

And all of those things are loving cool. What's the problem?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

LatwPIAT posted:

I talked to Revlid and this is what he has to say on the matter:

A simple misunderstanding then. Sigh, it seems that Goons are far too quick to accuse people of degenerate sexual deviancy just because of their non-standard writing, like in the so-called Rape Camps, where the so-called rape takes part not because of a sick desire for sex, but for utilitarian reasons.

xiw
Sep 25, 2011

i wake up at night
night action madness nightmares
maybe i am scum

Cpig Haiku contest 2020 winner

Ferrinus posted:

The thing is that Exalted fans don't actually like Exalted. They like maintaining the Exalted wiki.

This is funny because I'm pretty sure Onyx Path deleted the 2e Exalted wiki by accident. The dump I got from archive.org has 18,000 pages of work on it.

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
That's like accidentally backing over a sick dog.

Also, :psypop:

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
Let me make sure I'm getting this straight, so there are no misunderstandings. This was a set of charms he expanded upon twice for pregnancy shenanigans (over, well, any other charms in existence), somehow at no point did he think any part of that charmset might look a little fetishistic, and now thinks it's a "bit odd" that anybody might think so?

Exalted.

Nikink posted:

One-Night Stand

From the edges of Creation this hideous Exalt comes. A perfectly formed fantasy of rippling muscles and soft downy hair to some, a hideous shape of tentacled violation to others. In human form, your ideal mate and fantasy come true, but always, constantly, aroused and smelling of sex, with perfect (though large) sexual organs. In Deadly Beastman Form, an unholy amalgam of creatures - a dozen writhing tentacles sprout forth from suggestive fleshy openings all over the body, each capable of probing flesh and depositing sexual material. Fur, scales, bright feathers and slime replace the human flesh, the mouth becomes beak-like and the eyes enlarge to pools of blackness. The tongue becomes an engorged tentacle in it's own right. All orifices become capable of secreting quite dangerous (though still quite fertile) acidic material when necessary.

One-Night Stand was a Courtesan Slave in Meru during the months leading to the Usurpation. The night the Deliberative fell was the night One-Night Stand's brutalised form was visited by a more tender lover surrounded by a shimmering silver light, and Exaltation was gifted with a lover's caress.

Taking advantage of the confusion the new Exalt fled far from the Blessed Isle, to the furthest reaches where Creation warred with Chaos. And as the years passed, so did One-Night Stand's power grow, unformed and twisted by the loss of a Caste, yet always surviving as Luna dictated. All creatures great and small were feasted upon for their heart's blood... but other urges became prominent. The weakness of those who succumbed to the Wyld could only be fought by breeding stronger, more resilient offspring in every generation. And in One-Night Stand's maddened mind, only its offspring could be strong enough!

No creature is safe from the Lunar's predations. A new species will be consumed for it's Heart's Blood, but those are rare these days. Over the last thousand years or so, One-Night Stand has bred with countless millions of creatures. Never staying longer than necessary to procreate. A shadowy nightmare to some, and glorious sexual god (or goddess) to others. It has thousands of children scattered across Creation (of all species) and some of it's more intelligent offspring have taken to worshipping One-Night Stand as a fertility god(dess) and practice elaborate rites in order to gain their fickle deity's favour. Wild orgiastic parties are commonly used and many include interspecies mingling in an attempt to imitate their deity.

One-Night Stand no longer cares for individuals except as breeding stock and uses its considerable powers (and Charms) to manipulate and seduce whatever, and who-ever catches its eye. If they do not struggle, a night of fantasy as the lunar changes to whatever appearance they most desire. To more resistant stock a terrifying mass of tentacles and sex organs can take by force what was not given... and those who attempt combat can be quite literally taken by surprise during a clinch.

Many lands have tales of a deity mating with certain citizens in the guise of various animals of potent imagery. From lonely herders seeking comfort within their herds, to Virginal Brides of Ahlat being seduced by their god in the form of a mighty bull! These legends all (or mostly all) stem from One-Night Stand's visitations... and the legends, deeds and infamy of One-Night Stand penetrate even the most hide-bound Immaculate Temples in the Realm.

To ensure the potential mother's ability to carry for the full term, healing Charms (including memory wiping) are often used after the act. Father's get no such luxury and are left exhausted and spent. Those who recover well may be considered for the honour of mating again... their strength a desirable trait!

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Let me make sure I'm getting this straight, so there are no misunderstandings. This was a set of charms he expanded upon twice for pregnancy shenanigans (over, well, any other charms in existence), somehow at no point did he think any part of that charmset might look a little fetishistic, and now thinks it's a "bit odd" that anybody might think so?

Exalted.

what the fuckity gently caress

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008
So is Nikink an alt username for Revlid or is this someone else?

Serf
May 5, 2011


Alien Rope Burn posted:

Let me make sure I'm getting this straight, so there are no misunderstandings. This was a set of charms he expanded upon twice for pregnancy shenanigans (over, well, any other charms in existence), somehow at no point did he think any part of that charmset might look a little fetishistic, and now thinks it's a "bit odd" that anybody might think so?

Exalted.

:psypop:

I'm gonna be sick

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Bedlamdan posted:

So is Nikink an alt username for Revlid or is this someone else?

Someone else, it's off the Unofficial Exalted Wiki.

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Someone else, it's off the Unofficial Exalted Wiki.

Oh, google's telling me it showed up from rpg.net circa 2005

LatwPIAT
Jun 6, 2011

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Let me make sure I'm getting this straight, so there are no misunderstandings. This was a set of charms he expanded upon twice for pregnancy shenanigans (over, well, any other charms in existence), somehow at no point did he think any part of that charmset might look a little fetishistic, and now thinks it's a "bit odd" that anybody might think so?

Exalted.

He saw it as odd that people think that he wrote it because he has an unbirthing/pregnancy fetish, rather than because he wanted to explore something freaky. And perhaps that people are bringing this up five years later as "a bad habit of injecting his horrible fetishes into things", since that implies he does it habitually.

(One of the advantages of mostly keeping our laughing and pointing at anonymous sources unless they always tell everyone what they're smoking is that nobody might be put in the position of having their friends paraded arounds as freaks.)

LatwPIAT fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Jul 8, 2015

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan
I'm sorry your friend is a freak.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Mecha Gojira posted:

I'm sorry your friend is a freak.

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(
Do you actually ever put up with weird dudes that want to roleplay raping pregnant monsters or whatever because it's hard to find people to play with? Because some of this stuff that people seem to "put up with" is so loving over the edge it seems almost unbelievable. Maybe I've just been lucky but most people I've played D&D or w/e with have been just like anyone else. These last few pages have broken me.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Harvey Mantaco posted:

Do you actually ever put up with weird dudes that want to roleplay raping pregnant monsters or whatever because it's hard to find people to play with? Because some of this stuff that people seem to "put up with" is so loving over the edge it seems almost unbelievable. Maybe I've just been lucky but most people I've played D&D or w/e with have been just like anyone else. These last few pages have broken me.

Can't speak for anyone else, but whenever someone has decided to play out their fetishes or other assorted gross poo poo at my table I just kick them out. I try to assume that everyone is on the level, but creeps don't get invited in the first place and those who reveal themselves later on get sent packing. Sometimes I look at these rules and go "no one could really be using this, right?" but it tabletop games have taught me anything its that there is no nadir for my faith in humanity. It just keeps lowering with every new rape camp post or womb-factory monster rule.

That Old Tree
Jun 24, 2012

nah


There's plenty of room for writing creatively about weird, gross poo poo without touching yourself about it. However, most—nearly all—of that room is not in RPGs currently and possibly never should be. Revlid fell down that hole like a lot of people do (did?) who love Exalted and can write well, where he's just churning out tens of thousands of words on subjects that are 99.99% useless to everyone, fetishist or not, shoveling ridiculous amounts of Charms onto the internet because that's what Exalted is for too many people. Like a real live published Exalted author! :v:

All of that effort would be better spent on either the same subjects but not broken into a dozen Charm-shaped puzzle pieces, or just something else entirely.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Nihilarian posted:

"oh, gosh, I can't tell who the movie wants me to think of as the good guy. Is it the rapist warlord, or the woman who opposes him? I wish they would make it clearer."
So our kids are staying with my folks for a week, and my wife and I found a theater that was still showing Fury Road. It was the first movie we've gone to in over 5 years.

Totally worth it. I was giddy like half the movie about how audacious the whole thing was.

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Saguaro PI
Mar 11, 2013

Totally legit tree

gradenko_2000 posted:

I was reading through 3.5 Complete Warrior (while pooping) and I came across this gem:


Now, there's actually two more things you can do with this feat, but I stopped reading there, because holy loving poo poo are you kidding me? The DM has to create a monster with Power Attack, AND he has to use it, AND you have to know which one it is, AND it's the equivalent of giving the monster an attack roll penalty, AND it's for a feat that you're already two deep and six levels into prerequisites for.

I mean what the gently caress. Now when the grog you quoted says "Maybe you didn't know how to build characters very well, that's why you didn't see that in 3E.", I know he means scouring the internet for builds made by people who already did it better because they had the free time to avoid loving bullshit like Elusive Target.

And note that it revolves around Dodge, already an amazing example of a garbage feat.

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