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Judakel posted:Her face is child-like and her demeanor is too soft to play a woman who has been preparing for war since was a child. They should've altered the character to suit her demeanor more because she is very charismatic.
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Jul 7, 2015 14:28
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I have no problem giving more money to Arnie since I adored the guy ever since I was a child, but after watching T1 and T2 back to back just now (and getting blown away by both films STILL) I really am not sure I wanna see Genesys. Game of thrones lady looks super baby-faced and her acting looks dumb in the trailers, and Jai courtney sucks generally all the time. I just wanna see if there's any positives in this movie since i'm hearing such dour things about it.
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Jul 7, 2015 14:48
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polish sausage posted:I have no problem giving more money to Arnie since I adored the guy ever since I was a child, but after watching T1 and T2 back to back just now (and getting blown away by both films STILL) I really am not sure I wanna see Genesys. Game of thrones lady looks super baby-faced and her acting looks dumb in the trailers, and Jai courtney sucks generally all the time. I just wanna see if there's any positives in this movie since i'm hearing such dour things about it. The action is pretty great, Arnold is awesome in it, the CGI work on the Terminators is pretty great. I think RLM really summed it up well with 'it's like a Terminator fanfilm showing you everything you liked but done with 2015 CGI'. Emilia Clarke and Jai Courtney are the worst parts about the film.
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Jul 7, 2015 14:51
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Milky Moor posted:The action is pretty great, Arnold is awesome in it, the CGI work on the Terminators is pretty great. I think RLM really summed it up well with 'it's like a Terminator fanfilm showing you everything you liked but done with 2015 CGI'. Jai Courtney is worse than Emilia Clarke. I thought Clarke did fine but Courtney is bland as all hell.
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Jul 7, 2015 15:01
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Yeah i saw The RLM review too. i'm glad arnold is great, but it really sucks that sarah is "okay"(and she's probably going to be bad for me because I really don't like the look of that actress they picked for her) and jai courtney as reese is a thing that really gets under my skin. Also does all the bullshit in this movie mean that T2 never happens? anyway, I absolutely despised T3 and Terminator salvation, but I actually like that dude who played chekov's version of reese in salvation. At least I kinda could see that dude growing into kyle reese. I guess I'll just see this tonight then and get it out of my system, and just say the same thing that I always do: that the franchise is done after T2 and everything else is fanfiction garbage bullshit.
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Jul 7, 2015 15:10
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Popcorn posted:The lasting icon of the terminator is still the scary endoskeleton, so it's kind of weird it only meaningfully appears in T1. Arnie's been a loveable doofus in every Terminator appearance since. I like how the finale has Arnold say that he's incapable of showing he cares about John by crying, so he shows it by slowly burning alive (or, well, sort of) in front of his surrogate son while giving a thumb's up. That's not gonna mess the kid up later. Sarah Connor may be a great guerrilla warfare instructor but she's kind of a lovely parent. Send him out of the room before you hit the button at least, the kid's had a rough enough day today. Edit: Jai Courtney was definitely the weak link in the cast. His being jacked while eking out survival in the apocalypse was kind of funny but not a big deal, but he's just sort of lost and clueless for most of the film. Granted I got that he was the surrogate for fans of the first film who are having their expectations subverted but he just felt like a useless lug, as opposed to Beihn's opportunistic and almost feral portrayal of a dude who shows up in a strange new world, evades a police manhunt and steals enough poo poo to blend in all within one scene. Wild T fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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Jul 7, 2015 15:22
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Wild T posted:Edit: Jai Courtney was definitely the weak link in the cast. His being jacked while eking out survival in the apocalypse was kind of funny but not a big deal, but he's just sort of lost and clueless for most of the film. Granted I got that he was the surrogate for fans of the first film who are having their expectations subverted but he just felt like a useless lug, as opposed to Beihn's opportunistic and almost feral portrayal of a dude who shows up in a strange new world, evades a police manhunt and steals enough poo poo to blend in all within one scene. Although on the other hand, ultra-buff Kyle Reese starts to explain how humanity apparently keeps getting fooled by gigantic austrian bodybuilder robots.  Actually Reese starting off incredibly confused when the plot goes off the rails reminded me of the most recent Riddick, where Riddick tries to guess the plot of the movie based on the first one only to get it wrong past the first half.
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Jul 7, 2015 15:27
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RBA Starblade posted:where Riddick tries to guess the plot of the movie based on the first one only to get it wrong past the first half. How do you figure?
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Jul 7, 2015 15:36
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:How do you figure? Partway through the movie he starts telling the mercenaries how it's going to go, and for a while it seems like it's going like how Pitch Black did, but it falls apart when they don't abandon each other (for the most part) and come back for him, among other things (I really need to watch it again). Kyle Reese getting increasingly confused about how it's not going how it's supposed to brought that to mind.
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Jul 7, 2015 15:45
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I just saw an interview with Michael Beihn. He's had plastic surgery and doesn't look like himself anymore. Bummer.
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Jul 7, 2015 16:29
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I just saw an interview with Michael Beihn. He's had plastic surgery and doesn't look like himself anymore. Bummer. Pretty rude, you know he went through some bad stuff. 
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Jul 7, 2015 16:43
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Vintersorg posted:Pretty rude, you know he went through some bad stuff. What is this? Old Reese? Hicks, if Alien 3 hadn't happened? Edit: Ok an actual Old Reese who never went back in time as a young man and never fell in love with Connor showing up as a Terminator-style character in his old age would be pretty cool. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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Jul 7, 2015 16:49
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Vintersorg posted:Pretty rude, you know he went through some bad stuff. Is this from the new Alien movie? EDIT: It's not. I don't know if that's a shop or something he did for fun.
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Jul 7, 2015 17:14
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polish sausage posted:Yeah i saw The RLM review too. i'm glad arnold is great, but it really sucks that sarah is "okay"(and she's probably going to be bad for me because I really don't like the look of that actress they picked for her) and jai courtney as reese is a thing that really gets under my skin. Also does all the bullshit in this movie mean that T2 never happens? anyway, I absolutely despised T3 and Terminator salvation, but I actually like that dude who played chekov's version of reese in salvation. At least I kinda could see that dude growing into kyle reese. I guess I'll just see this tonight then and get it out of my system, and just say the same thing that I always do: that the franchise is done after T2 and everything else is fanfiction garbage bullshit. As far as enjoyment I think the main thing is to go in with an open mind (or just incredibly low expectations, but still open!) cause how much is changed (and again, just general questionable time travel fuckery). Like with Reese in particular you have a kind of nature vs nurture thing going on once he goes back in time, cause in this timeline things are all "wrong" which fucks with his character for a while. It might be the same person but he's thrown into a completely different situation that changes his development. RBA Starblade posted:Although on the other hand, ultra-buff Kyle Reese starts to explain how humanity apparently keeps getting fooled by gigantic austrian bodybuilder robots.
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polish sausage posted:Yeah i saw The RLM review too. i'm glad arnold is great, but it really sucks that sarah is "okay"(and she's probably going to be bad for me because I really don't like the look of that actress they picked for her) and jai courtney as reese is a thing that really gets under my skin. Also does all the bullshit in this movie mean that T2 never happens?
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Jul 7, 2015 17:20
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japtor posted:I was thinking about that the other day, all the acting/script/whatever wouldn't change the visual that he could just as well be another T800 physically. Yeah, you have Reese being hulked out like a Terminator, you have the resistance using their own infiltration unit (the remote-controlled endoskeleton) to get access to an enemy base, it's almost building up to some theme of the resistance becoming more like Skynet in this new timeline, but does that actually go anywhere?
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Jul 7, 2015 17:33
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah, you have Reese being hulked out like a Terminator, you have the resistance using their own infiltration unit (the remote-controlled endoskeleton) to get access to an enemy base, it's almost building up to some theme of the resistance becoming more like Skynet in this new timeline, but does that actually go anywhere? Down to John Connor literally giving birth to Skynet and you're asking if it actually goes anywhere?
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Jul 7, 2015 17:38
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I just saw an interview with Michael Beihn. He's had plastic surgery and doesn't look like himself anymore. Bummer. Or he might have just aged 30 years.
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Jul 7, 2015 17:45
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A youngish baby face Sarah does kind of work. She may have been trained by Arnold but she's still young in 1984. It's basically T1 Linda Hamilton only a bit more fit vs having the crazy drive and experience to mold her into Sarah of T2. This Sarah has Pops so her youth kind of works imo to show how at this point she's trying to shoulder a burden she may not have been quite ready for compares to her experience that lead to T2. Linda in T2 wouldn't need Pops. Instead she sees the T800 more as a peer or equal. I'm also coming around to some of what SMG is saying. I do like Skynet growing with each loop and other timelines and adapting itself.
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ruby idiot railed posted:Down to John Connor literally giving birth to Skynet and you're asking if it actually goes anywhere? 
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AlternateAccount posted:Or he might have just aged 30 years. Maybe you can't tell "bad plastic surgery" from "aging" but I can. Left - Beihn from 8 years ago in Grindhouse. Right - Beihn from interview this year. Did "aging" do that to his brow and forehead? 
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ruby idiot railed posted:Down to John Connor literally giving birth to Skynet and you're asking if it actually goes anywhere? Somehow the image of John as the Alien Queen in Aliens 4 came to my head giving literal birth to Skynet and I'm horrified I had this thought.
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Jul 7, 2015 18:10
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Maybe you can't tell "bad plastic surgery" from "aging" but I can. He looks like he aged eight years.
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Jul 7, 2015 18:43
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Neo Rasa posted:He looks like he aged eight years. Not to mention one shot is during a film shoot where every measure is taken to make him look as good as possible. The other is just a candid shot from an interview taken at some random moment where he was in the middle of a sentence.
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Jul 7, 2015 18:54
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Gatts posted:Somehow the image of John as the Alien Queen in Aliens 4 came to my head giving literal birth to Skynet and I'm horrified I had this thought. Matt Smith does look a little like The Newborn now that you mention it.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Maybe you can't tell "bad plastic surgery" from "aging" but I can. Apparently not.
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polish sausage posted:Yeah i saw The RLM review too. i'm glad arnold is great, but it really sucks that sarah is "okay"(and she's probably going to be bad for me because I really don't like the look of that actress they picked for her) and jai courtney as reese is a thing that really gets under my skin. Also does all the bullshit in this movie mean that T2 never happens? anyway, I absolutely despised T3 and Terminator salvation, but I actually like that dude who played chekov's version of reese in salvation. At least I kinda could see that dude growing into kyle reese. I guess I'll just see this tonight then and get it out of my system, and just say the same thing that I always do: that the franchise is done after T2 and everything else is fanfiction garbage bullshit. Blah blah only James Cameron matters blah blah.
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Jul 7, 2015 20:05
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I think its cause his forehead is silky smooth.
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Jul 7, 2015 20:40
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Vintersorg posted:I think its cause his forehead is silky smooth. Bad lighting or bad botox, goons decide!
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Immortan posted:Blah blah only James Cameron matters blah blah. At this point, I would pass on a James Cameron directed Terminator.
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Jul 7, 2015 20:52
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Vintersorg posted:I think its cause his forehead is silky smooth. In one shot he's doing a typical actor-face where he's furrowing his brow to look as badass as possible. In the other shot he has a completely neutral expression so there's no reason for his forehead to look the same it does in the other shot. Its pointless to compare the two.
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Jul 7, 2015 21:00
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crusader_complex posted:I thought liquid metal terminators were already made of nanobots...?
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crusader_complex posted:I thought liquid metal terminators were already made of nanobots...? T-1000 is just liquid metal that's programmed to reshape itself. Whatever nonsense words T2 used to explain it. And the T-X I don't THINK was stated to have nanobots, in theory she has the endo skeleton of a regular Terminator with a liquid metal covering for better disguises.
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Mimetic poly-alloy is not nano-bots. Like, not at all. Lets try to think things through a little bit before we post tia.
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Burkion posted:T-1000 is just liquid metal that's programmed to reshape itself. Whatever nonsense words T2 used to explain it. In a sense I think Arnold is like a TX now. Unless he did completely upgrade to a T1000 by removing his chip and leaving his frame behind. I don't think so because of how iconic the endoskeleton is though it'd make some sense to leave behind a failing body.
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Jul 7, 2015 21:27
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I kind of hope not if he's going to be in the two sequels, as it would allow for him to stay distinct from whatever they're fighting in those. If we were in an age where all information about a movie's story wasn't leaked long before the movie is released it would make for a great moment where some other character in a movie turns out to be Arnold out of nowhere while still being able to have some weight from the skeleton frame during action scenes. Like everyone has said about the action, in general, Arnold being heavy was like the only thing the movie kind of got right, be a shame to lose even that. Plus like everyone says, the two things that ARE the Terminator franchise are Arnold and the endoskeleton design.
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Gatts posted:In a sense I think Arnold is like a TX now. Unless he did completely upgrade to a T1000 by removing his chip and leaving his frame behind. I don't think so because of how iconic the endoskeleton is though it'd make some sense to leave behind a failing body. Yeah, I think he kept it all too. When he breaks into the bunker using a blade, it's only the missing arm that has transformed.
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The liquid metal needing a Terminator CPU to work was weird to me, unless it's a shortcut to some process that was used to program them in the future. Robert Patrick got frozen and shattered into thousands of tiny pieces and melted back down into small, shallow puddles, and we see both him and the T-1000 in this movie go wafer thin to hide on surfaces. I don't think there was enough room to hide a big chunky CPU the size of the ones we see in the movies. Maybe the CPUs are forwards-compatible or something, or I'm other thinking a prop that was set up solely to for Arnie to get robobaptized and be born again.
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