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Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

That certainly trumps McNaughton.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 00:25

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# ? May 12, 2024 03:49

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Skwirl posted:

We should probably update the candidate photos in the OP

Hahaha nice

# ? Jul 11, 2015 00:25

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Jindal looks like he's in an Air Bud spin-off

"Where in the rules does it say a dog can't be president?"

# ? Jul 11, 2015 00:27

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Saw an actual TV ad for https://www.ronpaulvideo12.com

This is excellent news!!! For Rand!!!

I've been seeing ads for various ronpaulmessageX (where x= some number between 5 and 12) with some regularity for a couple month now on MSNBC and CNN, which I find myself unable to avoid entirely when at the gym.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 00:29

Mo_Steel: Mar 7, 2008; Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together; Fun Shoe

Lum_ posted:

YOU FOOL!

Joementum posted:

Hillary will attend the Senate Democratic Caucus luncheon next week. Also in attendance: Senators who caucus with the Democrats.

Everyone enjoys a good luncheon rivalry.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 00:33

dorkasaurus_rex: Jun 10, 2005; gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Anyone got that graph from 2012 that shows all the ridiculous contenders enjoying the thrill of the not-Romney bump before fading into obscurity? Some people are talking up Trump's recent boost in the polls a bit too much (not to mention Bernie's) and need to be disabused of their capacity to move forward in this election.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 00:41

Feather: Mar 1, 2003; Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

pwnyXpress posted:

Especially with Bernie increasingly emphasizing things like black incarceration and unemployment rates, and the fact that he marched with MLK Jr.

1) His MLK March was 50 years ago. It doesn't matter as much today unless leaders in the black community make it matter.

2) He has to make a meaningful acknowledgment that black incarceration rates are in (large) part due to structural racism that is not caused by economic conditions. He can still do this while also noting that the economic problems are tied in, and part of, the systemic racism problems we see.

3) He has to stop implying that unemployed black men commit more crimes (I guarantee you no small part of the community hears his speech linking black unemployment with black incarceration and make an inference that Bernie's blowing a dog whistle, even when he doesn't mean to.)

# ? Jul 11, 2015 00:45

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Joementum posted:

Hillary will attend the Senate Democratic Caucus luncheon next week. Also in attendance: Senators who caucus with the Democrats.

This time in 2008 she was attending Senate luncheons with Obama and Biden.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 00:47

MaxxBot: Oct 6, 2003; you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

bpower posted:

If he wasn't a reckless warmonger I'd probably really like him. Did you see he talking about Joe Biden after his son's death? He seems like a decent man with a poo poo load of terrible ideas.

If you look at most hardcore neocons they're fairly moderate on most other issues, but that may or may not be because they think those issues are of secondary importance to bombing stuff.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 00:58

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Hitler loved Blondi. Just because something is capable of kindness doesn't mean they are excluded from being loving filth.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:15

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Who can take on Bush as the establishment candidate?

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:23

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

Feather posted:

1) His MLK March was 50 years ago. It doesn't matter as much today unless leaders in the black community make it matter.

2) He has to make a meaningful acknowledgment that black incarceration rates are in (large) part due to structural racism that is not caused by economic conditions. He can still do this while also noting that the economic problems are tied in, and part of, the systemic racism problems we see.

3) He has to stop implying that unemployed black men commit more crimes (I guarantee you no small part of the community hears his speech linking black unemployment with black incarceration and make an inference that Bernie's blowing a dog whistle, even when he doesn't mean to.)

I think you're drastically overestimating awareness of Bernie among the general Democratic population.

I think his higher percentages among white voters aren't anything more than an artifact of more Democratic political activists being disproportionately white and wealthy. Minorities by contrast skew poorer and aren't as politically active or connected, and so they probably just haven't heard of Bernie yet. At this stage, the only people who have heard of Bernie are political junkies, and political junkies skew whiter and richer than the average Democrat.

So far, everyone who hears Bernie's message likes it, it's just that most people haven't heard it yet. I think this "Minorities don't like Bernie's message" is just new horse-race bullshit media narrative.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:24

Great_Gerbil: Sep 1, 2006; Rhombomys opimus

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

2.0 means improvements!

But yeah, he's not as naive as Carter; but I honestly see him as not being able to accomplish a whole lot. Basically, I don't think "anti-establishment" people are good at governing. It might be from my background in studying political revolutions.

Here's my take. Bernie is an outsider in the sense that he's not operating under established rules. There's a lot of "decorum" in the Senate but a lot of sausage making, too.

I think the established parties would be wary of working with Sanders were he president. And, of course, we could wish for a great purge but it won't happen. Some lobbyists actually advocate for important and good things. Other lobbyists are in the middle. Some are evil. This is an establishment that a president has to work within to enact any policy. And there's a lot of compromise involved that I don't think those parties trust Bernie to make.

It's not about fighting the powers that be. It's about looking and the powers that be and making them work for you.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:25

fade5: May 31, 2012; by exmarx

Trabisnikof posted:

Who can take on Bush as the establishment candidate?

Walker, Rubio, maybe Chris Christie if he ever gets any kind of popularity (he won't)

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:26

Star Man: Jun 1, 2008; There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

So why are we so set in our ways with two major political parties? Is it just historical tradition going as far back as the Federalists and Anti-Federalists or is it something else?

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:32

pwnyXpress: Mar 28, 2007

Great_Gerbil posted:

Here's my take. Bernie is an outsider in the sense that he's not operating under established rules. There's a lot of "decorum" in the Senate but a lot of sausage making, too.

I think the established parties would be wary of working with Sanders were he president. And, of course, we could wish for a great purge but it won't happen. Some lobbyists actually advocate for important and good things. Other lobbyists are in the middle. Some are evil. This is an establishment that a president has to work within to enact any policy. And there's a lot of compromise involved that I don't think those parties trust Bernie to make.

It's not about fighting the powers that be. It's about looking and the powers that be and making them work for you.

No, it's a warning shot to the oligarchs proving that the people still have power by electing a "radical leftist;" a clear statement that we're sick of the fact that the powers that be don't work for us, and we won't bend over and take it anymore.

The Great Purge happens a decade or two later.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:33

Wanamingo: Feb 22, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Star Man posted:

So why are we so set in our ways with two major political parties? Is it just historical tradition going as far back as the Federalists and Anti-Federalists or is it something else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:35

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:41

Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

Trumps VP

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:42

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

Star Man posted:

So why are we so set in our ways with two major political parties? Is it just historical tradition going as far back as the Federalists and Anti-Federalists or is it something else?

First past the post voting system ensures there won't be more than two major parties basically.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:44

MrPants: Nov 17, 2005

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Anyone got that graph from 2012 that shows all the ridiculous contenders enjoying the thrill of the not-Romney bump before fading into obscurity? Some people are talking up Trump's recent boost in the polls a bit too much (not to mention Bernie's) and need to be disabused of their capacity to move forward in this election.

Come on. This is just silly. Trump maybe could ultimately lose the support he has but he jumped out in front of the pack. That isn't some little announcement bump. His entrance has also bumped up Jeb's numbers among the relatively reasonable GOP voters. And the idea Bernie's graph that has not only continued to trend up over two months but has accelerated in its upswing it just a brief anti Hillary wave is completely ridiculous.

It is unknown if he will be able to continue the upward trend and cut into Hillary's support enough to win but none of these things are Bobby Jindal announcement bumps.

Feather posted:

1) His MLK March was 50 years ago. It doesn't matter as much today unless leaders in the black community make it matter.

2) He has to make a meaningful acknowledgment that black incarceration rates are in (large) part due to structural racism that is not caused by economic conditions. He can still do this while also noting that the economic problems are tied in, and part of, the systemic racism problems we see.

3) He has to stop implying that unemployed black men commit more crimes (I guarantee you no small part of the community hears his speech linking black unemployment with black incarceration and make an inference that Bernie's blowing a dog whistle, even when he doesn't mean to.)

1. Possibly true though it does say something about what he has always believed in.

2. I could see this helping some people to give him a chance but what makes the people who need to hear this from Bernie believe that Hillary is on their side? I believe he actually talked about this a little bit in his endorsement of Jesse Jackson which is probably the last time that the issue got much serious attention during a presidential race. (note: not specifically because of Bernie but because of the nature of the race.)

3. I guess I could see that though he talks about incarceration and unemployment in different, non-consecutive parts of his stump speech. I also haven't heard this from anyone I know. (All of my black friends were already rabid Sanderistas before I got to them.) How is Bernie heard to be saying that and Hillary isn't? She also talks about incarceration and unemployment. Is it because she mentions race less?

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:44

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; by exmarx; Fallen Rib

If you guys are interested in articles savaging Scott Walker then you should keep your eyes on the Capital Times in Madison, the local progressive weekly publication:

http://host.madison.com/news/opinio...0a2309f455.html

John Nichols posted:

Intimidated Scott Walker's play-it-safe announcement

Scott Walker will launch his campaign for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination not from a place of strength but from his comfort zone.

Usually, when candidates for president get around to announcing their intentions, they do so from the town where they grew up, or from the town where they got their start in politics, or from the town where they govern. Some even try to build their base, reaching out to folks who are not likely supporters.

But not Walker, the billionaire-backed poster boy for big-money politics who has always relied more on hefty donations from the plutocracy than grass-roots support from the people to advance his ambitions. He does not take chances; he does not seek to build his base beyond the place where he started. And he absolutely does not want to encounter anyone who might disagree with him.

So Walker will launch his run July 13 in suburban Waukesha County, a Republican stronghold where Walker allies dominate the local political landscape and where his wealthy donors make their homes in leafy enclaves far from Milwaukee.

It�s no surprise that Walker is heading to a partisan safe zone where he can � and does � collect campaign cash in the posh country clubs and sprawling lakeside homes.

No Wisconsin candidate has ever raised and spent the kind of money that Walker used to get elected and re-elected as governor � more than $80 million over the past five years � and every indication is that the governor wants to maintain his record-breaking spending patterns in 2016.

In preparing for his 2016 race, Walker has jetted around the country to meet with the billionaire Koch brothers and casino mogul Sheldon Adelson. He has huddled with the money men on Wall Street. He has played up to billionaire backers of so-called �school choice� initiatives. He has set up campaign groups such as �Our American Revival� and �Unintimidated PAC� to collect unlimited contributions from wealthy allies like hedge-fund billionaire Ken Griffin.

Walker has spent a lot more time chasing billionaire bucks than tending the grass roots in Wisconsin. That�s one of the reasons � along with the state�s weak economy � why the governor�s approval rating dropped to a dismal 41 percent in the latest Marquette Law School Poll. A striking 56 percent of registered voters in Wisconsin now say they disapprove of how he is handling his job as governor. And there is every reason to believe that the number will keep rising.

Why? Because Walker is busier running for president than serving as governor, and according to the Marquette survey, 67 percent of Wisconsinites say they do not believe that any governor can run for president and still handle his duties as a state�s chief executive. Sixty-two percent of Wisconsinites � including substantial numbers of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents � say Walker should not seek the Republican nomination. And the Marquette Poll has him trailing Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton by a 52-40 margin.

Yet, despite the fact that Wisconsinites do not approve of Walker and are unlikely to back him for president, he must announce in the state.

That�s always been a given.

The only question has been: �Where?�

Walker�s money, spent freely in Republican-wave years, has allowed him to win elections in Wisconsin. But he has not built the broad base of support that past Republican governors of Wisconsin (such as Tommy Thompson) have enjoyed, and that some of his prospective 2016 challengers (such as Ohioan John Kasich) have developed. The 52 percent of the vote that Walker got in 2014 was precisely the same percentage that he got in 2010.

Walker had some �natural� announcement spots to choose from. But they were not quite safe enough.

For instance, though he was born in Colorado and raised in Iowa, Scott Walker went to high school in Delavan, Wisconsin. Yet he has maintained only slim connections to the rural community in Walworth County. Historically a Republican town, Delavan backed Walker in 2014. But his 56 percent finish was down from almost 65 percent four years earlier. And Delavan is not all that enthusiastic about big-money politics; 76 percent of local voters supported a 2014 call to amend the U.S. Constitution to declare that corporations are not people, that money is not speech, and that citizens and their elected representatives have a right to organize elections where votes matter more than dollars.

Walker maintains his voting residence in Wauwatosa. But the governor barely carried that city in 2014 � running weaker there than he did statewide. Worse yet, Wauwatosa is in Milwaukee County, where Walker used to be the county executive but where, in 2014, the governor secured only 36 percent of the vote.

What about Madison, the capital city where Walker has served as a legislator and governor for decades? Madison�s in Dane County, which gave Walker just 29 percent of the vote in 2014.

So it was settled. For a candidate as risk-averse as Walker, Waukesha County was the logical choice. It�s a Republican bastion where the governor won 72.5 percent of the vote in 2014. And the Waukesha County Expo Center, where he�ll announce, is a favorite landing spot for Republicans; for instance, it�s where Mitt Romney met up with Paul Ryan in 2012.

If Walker read from the phone directory in Waukesha County, the crowd would applaud.

Candidates generally crave approval. But some of them are willing to push the limits in seeking applause, to take risks in pursuit of approval.

Not Walker.

The governor likes to present himself as a bold contender who is �unintimidated� by opposition and who is ready to push the limits of politics. That�s the fantasy he�ll be peddling when he announces his candidacy.

But the truth is that Walker is a political careerist who has been mechanically climbing the ladder to higher office since he was elected to the Legislature in 1993. There�s nothing bold about him. He has no big ideas. He will not expand or illuminate the debate. He will follow his template � playing it safe, saying what the billionaires want said, and hoping they will give him enough money to fool enough voters so that he can grasp the next rung.

They run stuff like this every week. It's great :allears:

:allears:

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:47

Agrajag: Jan 21, 2006; gat dang thats hot

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Trumps VP

You had me a Trump.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:49

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

MrPants posted:

Come on. This is just silly. Trump maybe could ultimately lose the support he has but he jumped out in front of the pack. That isn't some little announcement bump.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:17

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

Meanwhile, in Los Angeles the pro-Trump rally:

The anti-Trump rally:

There is also apparently a replica of KITT from Nightrider circling the block with "DUMP TRUMP" soaped on its rear window.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:27

Taerkar: Dec 7, 2002; kind of into it, really

My big fear is that we're not going to get nearly the same amazing dildos based upon ratings that we did last time because of all of the runners. Maybe once they start dropping out.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:28

MrPants: Nov 17, 2005

Joementum posted:

I stand partially corrected regarding the GOP race. I had somehow forgotten about the quest for the not Romney that everyone in the GOP was on. It is certainly a different race with a clear GOP leader that they desperately wanted to not have to vote for. This year they don't seem to want any of them.

My excuse is that I couldn't be bothered to really give a poo poo that year. Voting for not Romney in the general despite the fact that he sold out the people who elected him and was party to war crimes was loving depressing. I hope to not have to relive that.

Why does this years graph lack the latest polling data?

MrPants fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jul 11, 2015

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:29

Lycus: Aug 5, 2008; Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Heh, Christie's long fall.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:34

Voyager I: Jun 29, 2012; This is how your posting feels.
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥

Lycus posted:

Heh, Christie's long fall.

The bigger they are...

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:39

Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

These are being placed all over LA(they are not official)

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Jul 11, 2015

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:43

DEEP STATE PLOT: Aug 13, 2008; Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

These are being placed all over LA(they are not official)

Isn't LA not a very good city for this kind of bullshit

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:46

C2C - 2.0: May 14, 2006; Dubs In The Key Of Life; Lipstick Apathy

Somewhere out there, there are people that believe MS13 actually does support another candidate.

EDIT:

"Undocumented Democrat"
"five-time", not "five time"
*source???

He's really stumping for the most hateful portion of the base, isn't he?

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:46

Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

Undocumented Democrats say Dump Trump

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:48

ComradeCosmobot: Dec 4, 2004; USPOL July

In related California Trump news, California state lawmakers are calling for the state to end ties with Trump while Trump pi�atas sell like hot cakes.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:48

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Cubey posted:

Isn't LA not a very good city for this kind of bullshit

LA proper no, but LA suburbs would eat this poo poo up.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:48

Feather: Mar 1, 2003; Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

MrPants posted:

Come on. This is just silly. Trump maybe could ultimately lose the support he has but he jumped out in front of the pack. That isn't some little announcement bump. His entrance has also bumped up Jeb's numbers among the relatively reasonable GOP voters. And the idea Bernie's graph that has not only continued to trend up over two months but has accelerated in its upswing it just a brief anti Hillary wave is completely ridiculous.

It is unknown if he will be able to continue the upward trend and cut into Hillary's support enough to win but none of these things are Bobby Jindal announcement bumps.

1. Possibly true though it does say something about what he has always believed in.

2. I could see this helping some people to give him a chance but what makes the people who need to hear this from Bernie believe that Hillary is on their side? I believe he actually talked about this a little bit in his endorsement of Jesse Jackson which is probably the last time that the issue got much serious attention during a presidential race. (note: not specifically because of Bernie but because of the nature of the race.)

3. I guess I could see that though he talks about incarceration and unemployment in different, non-consecutive parts of his stump speech. I also haven't heard this from anyone I know. (All of my black friends were already rabid Sanderistas before I got to them.) How is Bernie heard to be saying that and Hillary isn't? She also talks about incarceration and unemployment. Is it because she mentions race less?

1. Agreed, but people being people there is ever a "what have you done for me lately" thing.

2. First, Hillary has spent a lot of time "cultivating relationships" with leaders in the black community. Like most people with any political power these leaders are generally corrupt and looking to engage in some quid pro quo. Second, just like most whites, most blacks are low information voters and respond positively to fluffery and attention directed at them, so her insincere pandering is viewed as a positive.

3. It's because she talks about racism in terms of it being a systemic problem in addition to being an economic problem.

As you may have guessed, I have a pretty low view of Hillary. I think she's sincere about wanting power and she will sincerely pander, hard, to get it. It's not that I think she's racist (she clearly isn't) or even indifferent to the issues she engages in pandering about. It's just that I think she doesn't give two shits about anything but her own money and power, and positive side effects she can pander about are a happy accident for her. In our society that attitude is rewarded.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:48

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

C2C - 2.0 posted:

Somewhere out there, there are people that believe MS13 actually does support another candidate.

If only they could find a candidate that's both pro-gun and also wants to keep recreational drugs illegal

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:50

jerk1000: Dec 3, 2014

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Standing with Jamiel Shaw, Sabine Durdin, Don Rosenberg, Lupe Moreno, Brenda Sparks, Robin Hvidston & their spouses.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:53

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Skwirl posted:

We should probably update the candidate photos in the OP

I think we've discovered why Skynet concluded humans must be destroyed.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 03:07

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# ? May 12, 2024 03:49

Vox Nihili: May 28, 2008

Joementum posted:

Of course, those big not-Romney bounces weren't announcement bounces. Gingrich, for example, announced some four months before his surge in the polls.

Basically, we've got one hell of a roller coast waiting for these next 6 months.

"The next six months will be crucial." -Thomas Friedman

# ? Jul 11, 2015 03:07

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