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Jedit posted:Beans is loving impossible. Try finding a familiar or getting the red candle from the shop.
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Is that the one with 99 bombs as well? Skip most of the rooms, and then just endure the bosses.
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Jul 11, 2015 19:41
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IUG posted:Is that the one with 99 bombs as well? Skip most of the rooms, and then just endure the bosses. This. Finding 2 of Clubs cards helps.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:46
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Yeah Beans! is all about ignoring the actual Beans and just butt bombing everything in your path.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:52
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flyboi posted:Try finding a familiar or getting the red candle from the shop. The Red Candle can carry you thru that challenge easy. 99 Bombs is also pretty strong, especially when you don't even need a direct hit to get some benefit from them.
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Jul 11, 2015 21:29
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Curse rooms just damage you normally, it's only things that take red hearts over soul hearts that don't affect the devil door. Everything I've ever known is a lie. I guess I never noticed since I usually save them for after I've beaten the boss
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Jul 11, 2015 22:00
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Dias posted:The Red Candle can carry you thru that challenge easy. I eventually did it, with the Blue Candle and Rotten Baby. After eating a Bombs Are Key pill and never getting another, which should tell you how much use the actual items you're given to do this challenge with are.
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Jul 12, 2015 00:50
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Last thing I have to do is dark room with Maggie, donate another 300 coins and touch some items. So close to finishing but every time I try to finish Maggie I just get tired of it. I loving hate Maggie.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:10
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I'm making some progress in figuring out how angel rooms are spawned. It seems like the chance increases aren't additive like with the door spawn. but multiplicative. So, you have a 50% chance when the requirements are met to get an angel room. Didn't get it? You can have another shot at rolling an angel room if you've got key piece 1, with a 25% chance. Still no angel room? Try again with 25% chance if you have key piece 2. And so on. What this comes down to is that you'll never have a 100% chance for an angel room. Makes sense, since the angel room isn't a stand-alone thing, but purely a replacement for the normal devil rooms. So you'll always have a chance for the devil room, too. Problem is, the game checks a few variables in the process that i don't know what they're for. I'll have to go through the room and see what triggers them. But if i'm reading what i've got so far right, then bombing coin beggars gives increase chances for a devil/angel room to show up, whereas bombing a devil beggar doesn't increase the chance to see a door, but DOES increase the chance to see an Angel over a Devil room. That's... weird.
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Jul 12, 2015 18:21
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I've been banging my head against the Cursed challenge with Heretic Mod installed. The character they replaced Maggie with only starts with two sin hearts for health and has the Goat Head instead of Yum Heart. I keep losing steam in the depths and end up dying to doors. I'm starting to find that I actually like the mechanics of the challenge though. Having full view of the map but a limit on how many rooms you can pass through makes for a lot more planning. I kinda wish they'd find another way to implement the concept.
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Jul 12, 2015 18:41
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What's the item with no charge meter that looks like a toaster with a chip sticking out of it do? I forgot its name and don't see it on the wiki
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Jul 12, 2015 19:47
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Magic Fingers, hitting spacebar uses a penny to do damage to the whole room. It's good for making GBS threads all over bosses you don't want to fight.
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Jul 12, 2015 19:49
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If you've got money to spare Magic Fingers own. It's great for just not dealing with lovely rooms too. I actually used it for a successful Lost run alongside the dollar.
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Jul 12, 2015 19:52
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Magic fingers scales off of your damage as well, so if you've got super strong tears and a ton of money you can blast through floors with it.
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Jul 12, 2015 19:58
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Hmm I got it on floor 1 alongside 15 money courtesy of petrified poo and a 2 of diamonds. There's a steam sale in the shop here too, I'm as wealthy as a Lord 9DL1 BMCC <---(on Vita :P)
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Jul 12, 2015 20:12
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HenryEx posted:I'm making some progress in figuring out how angel rooms are spawned. It seems like the chance increases aren't additive like with the door spawn. but multiplicative. So, you have a 50% chance when the requirements are met to get an angel room. Didn't get it? You can have another shot at rolling an angel room if you've got key piece 1, with a 25% chance. Still no angel room? Try again with 25% chance if you have key piece 2. And so on. At what point does it roll for the Angel Room? Right when the door would first open or a red chest or Joker would teleport you there?
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Jul 12, 2015 20:14
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Almost there with The Lost. Had a run where everything seemed to come together. Holy Mantle, Death's Touch and a ton of damage ups, and Mom's Contact won the day for me. Got the Mind and the Soul. Just need to knock out the Boss Rush and I'm done with the Lost til Afterbirth.
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I had an Eden start with Ipecac + Magic Fingers. Almost lost that run because pennies somehow became as rare as eternal hearts.
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Jul 12, 2015 22:39
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Ipecac plus magic fingers plus map donation machine equals seven minute time in an unseeded run.
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Jul 13, 2015 00:38
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IMJack posted:At what point does it roll for the Angel Room? Right when the door would first open or a red chest or Joker would teleport you there? Checked the code a bit more and the game calculates the Angel chances a bit weirdly: It tosses a coin first, and on Heads it does nothing, and only on Tails it even checks if you have the Rosary Bead - if you do, you get the Angel room, if not it checks the next thing. Same for the Key Pieces, but there it's a 25% chance that the game even checks if you have the items. I... think this comes out to a multiplicative +50% for the Bead and +25% for the key pieces, but i'm not very good at probabilities, or math in general. I've implemented whatever the game does in my little overlay with a second chance display, which is again light blue when you're eligible and dark red when you're not. Funnily enough, i'm still not sure on everything that boosts Angel room chances. There's two variables in particular that behave very strangely together and should basically guarantee an Angel room if they're set. But i don't know what does that.  If anyone uses the display and sees their Angel room chance suddenly shoot up to 95 or 100%, let me know what you did!Here's the download link again: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dw3w5scdrbu0dl7/Devil%20Room%20chance.zip?dl=0
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Probability wise, what you want to be doing is multiplying together the chances of not getting an angel room, and that chance is (1 - overall chance of angel room). Multiplying together the chances of getting an angel room calculates the probability that they all spawn an angel room, which is obviously meaningless here because you stop checking as soon as you succeed. So if you have the Rosary Bead (50% chance) and a Key Piece (25% chance), you have (1-0.5)*(1-0.25) = 3/8 chance of not seeing an angel room, so 5/8 chance of seeing one
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Got this recently, have beat The Lamb and just beat ??? and got Golden God. Still some way to go. ... that run was hilarious. Picked up Tiny Planet on a whim and immediately remembered why this was a terrible idea. Thought my problems were solved when I saw Mom's Knife. Hey, orbiting swarms of knives sounds great! IT WAS NOT. That video had it a little better than me. My knife only reached about 215 degrees behind the back with pitiful range, requiring painful amounts of timing and positioning. I HATED it. If there's a worse combination in the game I want to know in advance thanks. ... so I was relived when I came to a 1-spot dice room. Yes, reroll this poo poo please. And this is some of what I think I got... Ludovico Technique Lost Contact Strange Attractor Daddy Long Legs Something else that made two smaller tears orbit the Ludovico one. Tiny Planet again? So from the Womb onwards I was magnetically rolling all the enemies up into little katamaris of villainy and letting Daddy Long Legs stomp all over them. And that's how I cheesed Isacc and ???, because even if the damage wasn't great they couldn't even return fire thanks to being trapped inside Lost Contact. I love this game. geri_khan fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Jul 13, 2015 15:21
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geri_khan posted:Got this recently, have beat The Lamb and just beat ??? and got Golden God. Still some way to go. I'm a big defender of garbage items, but Moms knife+Tiny planet is only kind of usable if you get loki's horns (with enough luck that it fires a lot). actually, Moms knife breaks so many synergies that I barely ever take it nowadays.
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senae posted:actually, Moms knife breaks so many synergies that I barely ever take it nowadays. I only take it if my damage is enough to steamroll, but my rate of fire sucks.
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Aside from The Lost unlocks, I've been stuck on completing the chest and the dark room with ??? on hard mode for the past few weeks, yesterday I finally completed the chest, gonna try to get the dark room out of the way so I can finally start banging my head against the wall with The Lost. Can't wait!
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The problem with moms knife is the hitbox is always slightly smaller then you think it is.
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Afterbirth update: a quick look at what the 3DS version looks like, including a lower-screen map you can draw dicks on. "there will be new cards, pills, runes, bombs, hearts, chests and even a few new item types you will run into and/or unlock via one of the 10 new challenges." And some speculation-bait presented without context.   Hidden pic:  More dodgy digging bullshit monsters. Yay.
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IMJack posted:Afterbirth update: a quick look at what the 3DS version looks like, including a lower-screen map you can draw dicks on. *GASP* KITTY! EDIT: how is the most asked question not "How do you sell a game where a naked baby hurts itself to become more powerful including selling it's soul to the devil as it travels into it's mother's womb to destroy a fetusheart and then either ascend to heaven to battle your former self or take on lucifer and the anti-christ in hell while also being constantly reminded this game is full of poop on a Nintendo console?" Skunkrocker fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Jul 14, 2015 06:37
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IMJack posted:Afterbirth update: a quick look at what the 3DS version looks like, including a lower-screen map you can draw dicks on. You missed the best part: "afterbirth is currently looking to be around 2 months from completion. we recently added another 40+ items so you never know what feature creeps we may run into along the way… but we can see the light at the end of the tunnel and hope we can announce a release date and start taking preorders sooner than later  "That gives me hope we may get it by the end of the year after all.
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Jul 14, 2015 06:50
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Really kills variety getting bob's brain every single run. I could stop picking it up again but then it shows up 3-5 times and I'll miss out on something like fate/cricket's head from a golden chest.
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Jul 14, 2015 06:51
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Skunkrocker posted:*GASP* Cricket is a cute kitty  And her severed head gives me power
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Skunkrocker posted:*GASP* You should really play Bayonetta 2
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Is there a sane way to scum for Super Bandage Girl?
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Jedit posted:Is there a sane way to scum for Super Bandage Girl? Infinite item use setups + monster manuel
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Jedit posted:Is there a sane way to scum for Super Bandage Girl? No. You need to know the 3 or 4 most common infinite setups you can create, then try to get them along with monster manual. I've never been able to get a truly infinite setup in the game, but I did get a sharp plug + wafer that gave me just enough tries on MM to get Super Meat Boy on the very last activation I had.
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Just cheat it, even with a generator setup you have to luck into a seed where a generator is possible. And speaking from experience, mashing Monster Manual non-stop will still take you somewhere between 10 and 25 minutes to get the achievement. It wouldn't be half as bad if you were guaranteed progress on every horseman, but as it is now, the boss drop being a Bandage OR Meat Cube just makes the thing borderline impossible.
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Jul 14, 2015 14:25
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You can only get one type drop during a given run, it's Conquest that screws things up now.
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Sanctum posted:Really kills variety getting bob's brain every single run. Bob's Brain is my biggest enemy in this game. No single thing has hurt me as much. gently caress Bob's Brain and anyone who supports it.
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It does have one legit use: Blindfolded challenges. BBF, on the other hand, can eat a dick. There's only so many times that i can handle entering a room and immediately exploding.
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I can't pass up BBF! How can I say no to that face?
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