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fatherdog posted:That was Monson vs Pe De Pano, and the best part of that was that they'd already agreed to split the prize money afterwards so there was absolutely nothing on the line. PDP did it for pure love of poor sportsmanship. Haha oh my god I never heard this part before.
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Anyone know if there's a way to watch the Roger vs. Comprido match that's going down at UFC Fan Expo today?
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Jul 10, 2015 18:01
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Wow I didn't even know that was happening
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Seltzer posted:Here's the video. Skip around cause it's long. "sub" happens at about 4 minutes. Holy poo poo that's even better than I expected 
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fatherdog posted:That was Monson vs Pe De Pano, and the best part of that was that they'd already agreed to split the prize money afterwards so there was absolutely nothing on the line. PDP did it for pure love of poor sportsmanship. Hahaha Hahaha I did not know this.
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Dangersim posted:Wow I didn't even know that was happening They didn't do a stream for it, but they put it on Youtube promptly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDw_pDXq4dc
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Jul 10, 2015 22:31
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Cool sweep starting at 4:00 or so. It looks simple but I don't know if I've seen that one before.
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Sprecherscrow posted:Except for the first 90 seconds of the fight where Roger easily took him down, passed his guard, took his back, and then gassed because cutting to 185 was not a good idea for him. well yes but the subsequent 810 was of the greatest gi grappler of all time losing pathetically to an idiot
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fatherdog posted:That was Monson vs Pe De Pano, and the best part of that was that they'd already agreed to split the prize money afterwards so there was absolutely nothing on the line. PDP did it for pure love of poor sportsmanship. this is so great
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Sometimes I think pe de pano deserves the win for being smart enough and paying enough attention to detail to tap like that.
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Convenient for this discussion, today's UFC Fan Expo superfight featured Pe de Pano against Xande Ribeiro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0AFKmKOhMs
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Sprecherscrow posted:Convenient for this discussion, today's UFC Fan Expo superfight featured Pe de Pano against Xande Ribeiro: Just a heads up not to watch this video if anyone was considering it, as it sucked rear end
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manyak posted:Just a heads up not to watch this video if anyone was considering it, as it sucked rear end I must admit I hadn't actually watched it, just posted it since it seemed appropriate. Given the video length I assume it went the distance and so I find this very easy to believe.
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manyak posted:Just a heads up not to watch this video if anyone was considering it, as it sucked rear end Watched the video with the mindset that I'd watch it and say "It's not that bad." Sadly, it was that bad...
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I've been wondering about the ratio of strength and conditioning with grappling/wrestling for people who compete seriously. I'm a hobbyist so I do what I want for fun, but with a competitor, where's the line for it? I get that being stronger and better conditioned is good, but wrestling and grappling itself is physically very tough, so why isn't that itself necessarily enough, especially if you do it a lot? It's skill based sport so why wouldn't you spend most of your time with the sport itself, if a dude spends the time wrestling where as other dude spends his time lifting or running, wouldn't you be better of of? American wrestlers are famous for doing a whole lot of strength and conditioning stuff, where as russian wrestlers just seem to wrestle. So how this works? I've been doing judo for 8 years and we have done all kinds of stuff in the practice, a lot of drills, basic gymnastics and stuff but recently joined a bjj club where they just grapple and wrestle besides doing technique. You warm up rolling, do tecnique, roll the rest of the class. Again, just a hobbyist, but how competitors do it?
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The high level competitors that I know weight train around 3x per week but don't supplement with much extra cardio on top of training and rolling. " It's skill based sport so why wouldn't you spend most of your time with the sport itself, if a dude spends the time wrestling where as other dude spends his time lifting or running, wouldn't you be better of of?" Not really at least at the level you're talking about. These guys all are in situations that allow them to train enough to where one isn't taking away from the other, and more time on the mats might even be counter-productive from an injury/recovery standpoint. And given the level of expertise at jiu jitsu the incremental benefit of another hour refining technique etc is going to be less than using that time to become stronger with vice like grips.
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Put this on the A/T thread too, but wanna post it here too because it's great: The Great Eurasian Wrestling Tournament, a whole bunch of matches with shuai jiao rules. Cool stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkdSPNAflM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq4B3Gujyf8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-NgbEppCNY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQEpZo8sUY
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In summer college wrestling news, the six Western Wrestling Conference schools are folding into the Big XII as affiliate members for wrestling. I'm "meh" about this as a fan of a Big XII school. I really wish the rumors about joining the Big XII with the ACC for wrestling would have come to pass. That conference would have owned. But at least this restores the Big XII's qualifying status and gives extra depth for the conference tournament.
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david carmichael posted:well yes but the subsequent 810 was of the greatest gi grappler of all time losing pathetically to an idiot Seriously, whoever was advising Roger to drop lower than 205 for MMA was an idiot. He has the skills and reach to be fine at 205. Even if not the most massive, imposing figure in the 205 category, he's taller than most. ManOfTheYear posted:I've been wondering about the ratio of strength and conditioning with grappling/wrestling for people who compete seriously. I'm a hobbyist so I do what I want for fun, but with a competitor, where's the line for it? I get that being stronger and better conditioned is good, but wrestling and grappling itself is physically very tough, so why isn't that itself necessarily enough, especially if you do it a lot? It's skill based sport so why wouldn't you spend most of your time with the sport itself, if a dude spends the time wrestling where as other dude spends his time lifting or running, wouldn't you be better of of? American wrestlers are famous for doing a whole lot of strength and conditioning stuff, where as russian wrestlers just seem to wrestle. The really serious guys I've trained with all do extra-curricular workouts for strength and conditioning. There's a fair amount of overlap with guys training for MMA at my gym, and they all do weights multiple times a week, specifically Kettlebells, or sometimes Olympic lifting. A few of them also run, or play football (soccer) for cardio, but really a diverse set of kettlebells will do that too. It helps a lot, BJJ is a skill based sport until it's not - strength and speed decide things when you're evenly matched. If you have better cardio, you can keep fighting for grips at full speed for the whole round and get the winning takedown. If you can swing a couple of kettlebells around for 100 reps, you'll have the power to force subs or escapes when you need to, even if your opponent is doing the right things to counter you.
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Worth listening to. Dan Gable talks about how training smarter, not harder, could have prolonged his coaching career and led to even more success. Not many people have ever worked harder on the mat than Gable, so you don't get much more authenticity when it comes to advocating an intelligent approach to training. http://www.mattalkonline.com/podcas...1987-iowa-team/
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I started bjj this week, is it a faux pas to train in just spats with no cup? Nobody else seems to wear a cup, but should i just for ball safety anyway?
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canada jezus posted:I started bjj this week, is it a faux pas to train in just spats with no cup? Nobody else seems to wear a cup, but should i just for ball safety anyway? I would if I were you
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canada jezus posted:I started bjj this week, is it a faux pas to train in just spats with no cup? Nobody else seems to wear a cup, but should i just for ball safety anyway? Whichever you prefer. I think of cups as plate armor for my balls and used to use one all the time, now I ditched the cup and just layer up with spats/underwear/shorts to provide leather armor for my balls. You should wear shorts over your spats imo though, I consider not doing so unfashionable.
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Anyone else going to watch the FIVE Grappling PPV today?
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I'd wear one if I wasn't aiming to compete (they're banned) but take it easy while taking the back for example. It's perfectly alright to mash the thing into your opponent's spine in submission wrestling but not so okay in BJJ practice.
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Opal posted:they're banned This isn't a universal rule, some competitions actually require them. Its definitely not something I'd let guide my decision as a beginner in any event.
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Awesome breakdown of the Palhares dickishness by Joe Lauzon here: https://www.facebook.com/joelauzon/videos/10153477783403570/Opal posted:Uh, what BJJ competitions are those? The last one I competed in, off the top of my head: http://www.cagc.us/rules/rules.html
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Opal posted:Uh, what BJJ competitions are those? Cups are banned in Judo (along with all other hard plastic or metal) but I've never heard of them being banned in jits.
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Thoguh posted:Cups are banned in Judo (along with all other hard plastic or metal) but I've never heard of them being banned in jits. they're banned in most comps because they make armbars wicked easy to hurt someone with. For instance, they are banned in IBJJF comps, and most regional comps ban them to stay in line with the IBJJF.
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They're banned by IBJJF: http://ibjjf.org/rules/quote:8.3.7
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Thoguh posted:Cups are banned in Judo (along with all other hard plastic or metal) but I've never heard of them being banned in jits. Conversely I've never been to a jujitsu competition that allowed them, but some small ones that for one reason or another don't follow IBJJF rules apparently do. I imagine they may be submission wrestling tournaments first and BJJ second.
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Protect your dick
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2DCAT posted:they're banned in most comps because they make armbars wicked easy to hurt someone with. This is "leglocks are too dangerous"-level nonsense. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Aug 4, 2015 |
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Opal posted:Uh, what BJJ competitions are those? North American Grappling Association No-Gi rules document posted:At a minimum, a groin protector (male competitors), mouthpiece, and shorts with a drawstring must be worn. NAGA Gi Rules posted:Groin protectors are permitted (and encouraged) for male
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I like to wear a cup.
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ADCC, NAGA, Grappler's Quest, The Good Fight, catch wrestling, sport & combat sambo, and MMA all allow cups, and somehow people doing those aren't getting constantly maimed by armbars. Strange, that.
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