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Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Midjack posted:

Wikipedia claims they're stripped and crushed in front of UPS employees once at EOL.

For some reason, I have this mental image of a weary UPS guy on his last day at work. They bring him into a room and through a window is his delivery truck. His daily partner for so long. His friend, his companion, his rock. This is the vehicle that helped put his kids through college, put a down payment on a house and financed that new pool that Frank down the street is so jealous of. Then they begin strapping him into a chair clockwork orange style and force him to watch as the vehicle is stripped and then crushed in front of him. As tears of sadness run down his face, they unstrap him from the chair, hand him his final paycheck and wish him a happy retirement.

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Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007

Elmnt80 posted:

For some reason, I have this mental image of a weary UPS guy on his last day at work. They bring him into a room and through a window is his delivery truck. His daily partner for so long. His friend, his companion, his rock. This is the vehicle that helped put his kids through college, put a down payment on a house and financed that new pool that Frank down the street is so jealous of. Then they begin strapping him into a chair clockwork orange style and force him to watch as the vehicle is stripped and then crushed in front of him. As tears of sadness run down his face, they unstrap him from the chair, hand him his final paycheck and wish him a happy retirement.

Pretty sure they make a cheap watch out of the scraps which he's forced to wear to remind him of the impermanence and futility of existence for the remainder of his days too.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Captain Postal posted:

Pretty sure they make a cheap watch out of the scraps that he's forced to wear to remind him of the impermanence and futility of existence for the remainder of his days too.

They just order one and make him sign for it before checking to see if it survived the journey intact.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Is there any particular reason UPS doesn't want their trucks to make it to a secondhand market? If it's just a question of they only retire vehicles that are no longer safe to operate that's one thing, but the fact that they need an employee present at the crushing seems a little excessive.

rainwulf
Jan 22, 2004
I must post less.

Booblord Zagats posted:

I've seen G2 Tiburons do this before. Turns out the paper thin plastic guarding the electrical system from a blown out tire isn;t that well thought out

Eek. I have a 08 Tiburon which i assume is G2?

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I just want to add that UPS trucks and their drivers are impressively competent in the snow. We'll get some stupid amount of snow that even the bro trucks are afraid to go out in and yet there's the UPS guy hauling rear end with a 1 storey high wake of powder behind him.

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

8ender posted:

I just want to add that UPS trucks and their drivers are impressively competent in the snow. We'll get some stupid amount of snow that even the bro trucks are afraid to go out in and yet there's the UPS guy hauling rear end with a 1 storey high wake of powder behind him.

Couple years ago I saw a FedEx truck centre punch a UPS truck on dry roads in broad daylight.

Just-in-time cross-courier delivery, I guess.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

For a brief moment this man is seeing the secrets of the universe

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012

xzzy posted:

Is there any particular reason UPS doesn't want their trucks to make it to a secondhand market? If it's just a question of they only retire vehicles that are no longer safe to operate that's one thing, but the fact that they need an employee present at the crushing seems a little excessive.

Probably something like the MUTT - "This vehicle is, in fact, dangerously unsafe and can't be safely used by folks lacking ~specialised training~; crush 'em".

The training amounts to kegel exercises so you don't poo poo yourself when the vehicle rolls over, allowing salvage of the upholstry for depot spares.

(I don't know).

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



If we're talking about unobtanium vehicles, why hasn't the gama goat been mentioned? I hear that thing's unsafe as gently caress too...

BloodBag fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Jul 12, 2015

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005

8ender posted:

I just want to add that UPS trucks and their drivers are impressively competent in the snow. We'll get some stupid amount of snow that even the bro trucks are afraid to go out in and yet there's the UPS guy hauling rear end with a 1 storey high wake of powder behind him.

UPS drivers are just impressively competent at pretty much everything. I swear to god they are some of the best drivers on the road and they always, always have a smile on their face.

Except the UPS semis, those are a different story.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


IPCRESS posted:

Probably something like the MUTT - "This vehicle is, in fact, dangerously unsafe and can't be safely used by folks lacking ~specialised training~; crush 'em".

The training amounts to kegel exercises so you don't poo poo yourself when the vehicle rolls over, allowing salvage of the upholstry for depot spares.

(I don't know).

This is probably true... ups doesnt want the added liability of being a truck dealer.

Their truck is also kind of their brand.. so they are probably looking to keep the look exclusive to UPS and not Eds Crack Filling: concrete repair.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

Slavvy posted:

I got told this by a Mercedes Benz technical assistance guy so I don't know if it's true first hand: evidently the first generation ML in the north american market had an all-white wiring loom with the terminal connector locations and function of the individual wires stencilled on each wire, like a built-in wiring diagram. It was meant to aid diagnosis or some other germanlogic poo poo and was brutally expensive to make, which gives it the flavour of being true.

Educate me, thread!

Freightliner has been doing this since the late '80s, so I imagine the global Merc heavy trucks have been doing it at least that long and I'd be shocked if that hadn't made its way into a lot of other Merc products.
It aids diagnosis massively, but that's mainly because monocolor wire is extremely effective at scaring away all the people who shouldn't be loving with electrical stuff so you spend less time correcting hamfisted repair attempts. The markings do have a tendency to be not entirely permanent though (because we all know Mercedes to pick only the very finest wire suppliers :rolleye:).

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



tater_salad posted:

This is probably true... ups doesnt want the added liability of being a truck dealer.

Their truck is also kind of their brand.. so they are probably looking to keep the look exclusive to UPS and not Eds Crack Filling: concrete repair.

They are weird about their trucks. Policy is for the logo to be painted over asap in case of an accident so nobody sees a UPS truck being towed anywhere.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
I wonder why they are so controlling about that.

QuiteEasilyDone
Jul 2, 2010

Won't you play with me?
UPS as far as I can tell have a huge hard on for their brand. There's always been a story on the Internet and in shops about a large number of UPS uniforms that had either been stolen or misdelivered or otherwise erroneously purchased by an outside party on ebay. UPS almost instantly bought them up as that story goes because they were trying to protect their image as reliable dependable couriers.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

BloodBag posted:

If we're talking about unobtanium vehicles, why hasn't the gama goat been mentioned? I hear that thing's unsafe as gently caress too...


gently caress the GAMA Goat. gently caress it raw. That is the most worthless vehicle I've ever had the displeasure to drive or ride in. They were such pieces of poo poo that when they were retired for HMMWVs, our maintenance sergeant got down on his knees and wept in joy. Unsafe, unreliable, and trying to do any fording or amphibious work (It supposedly floats IF all the seals are intact which of course they aren't) was an exercise in frustration.

If anybody wants one, they are an idiot and you can use that for a reference test.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

UPS drivers are just impressively competent at pretty much everything. I swear to god they are some of the best drivers on the road and they always, always have a smile on their face.

Except the UPS semis, those are a different story.

They also run informal contests to see who can wear their shorts the furthest into winter. This is actually not an uncommon challenge among delivery companies, but the first time I heard about it was UPS drivers in Alaska, they got a story in the local news because one guy made it through one particular January where the area had an average temperature of -5F.

I can take cold better than many but working a delivery van for 8 hours in subzero temps with shorts on would probably do me in.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

It looks like the typical design-by-committee military vehicle.

Once upon a time it was probably a simple, robust transport vehicle on some bright young engineer's drawing board, but its conception as an ARPA project left it ultimately doomed to feature creep like "unified-vehicle modularity", "multi mission capability" and other buzzwords. Of course every time ARPA tossed a new spec change their way the manufacturer happily nodded with dollar signs lit up in their eyes, while the original designer quietly wept at his drawing board.

Speaking of, is it too early to post the F-35 in this thread?

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Everyone watch The Pentagon Wars, and weep realizing that every military vehicle is designed like that.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

People think The Pentagon Wars is a comedy but it's really a documentary.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

gently caress the GAMA Goat. gently caress it raw. That is the most worthless vehicle I've ever had the displeasure to drive or ride in. They were such pieces of poo poo that when they were retired for HMMWVs, our maintenance sergeant got down on his knees and wept in joy. Unsafe, unreliable, and trying to do any fording or amphibious work (It supposedly floats IF all the seals are intact which of course they aren't) was an exercise in frustration.

If anybody wants one, they are an idiot and you can use that for a reference test.

I've never heard of or seen one of these but it looks like a video game vehicle. Like, it is laid out in a way that defies common sense and is purely designed to look whacky and futuristic.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Geirskogul posted:

Everyone watch The Pentagon Wars, and weep realizing that every military vehicle project ever is designed like that.
Fixed this for you. Also, I was going to link to the clip, but gently caress that here's the full movie on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDYpRhoZqBY

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-jammyozzy.gif"><br>Is that a challenge?

BloodBag posted:

If we're talking about unobtanium vehicles, why hasn't the gama goat been mentioned? I hear that thing's unsafe as gently caress too...


I don't know why the combination of camo paint and bright orange "here I am!" lights amuses me so much, but it does.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Lights were retrofitted because the camo was too good.

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice

Splizwarf posted:

Lights were retrofitted because the camo was too good.

They heard "I can't see our troops driving these much longer", and they came up with a solution.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
They really are complete garbage. We used them in the 82nd and they were total poo poo.

I did like the PAM for it though

https://archive.org/stream/PAM750-31#page/n0/mode/2up

ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


xzzy posted:

Is there any particular reason UPS doesn't want their trucks to make it to a secondhand market? If it's just a question of they only retire vehicles that are no longer safe to operate that's one thing, but the fact that they need an employee present at the crushing seems a little excessive.
They spend a lot of time and money running them and making them theirs. My dad worked for UPS back in the late 70's and they basically build them to run forever, they're mostly aluminum, and painted with aircraft epoxy paint, and like others have said, they're such an iconic design, they don't want them to be seen in not UPS colors.

When my dad worked for them they were still running trucks from like the '40s, so they keep them around for a while too.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
When I worked on the tarmac for ups at a major airport we used a super old one for a crew shuttle. It was awesome and really fun to drive around.

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

Alereon posted:

Fixed this for you. Also, I was going to link to the clip, but gently caress that here's the full movie on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDYpRhoZqBY

I've been meaning to watch this forever and finally did. It's really fantastic, and the fact that it's (mostly) true makes it even better.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Alereon posted:

Fixed this for you. Also, I was going to link to the clip, but gently caress that here's the full movie on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDYpRhoZqBY

Also available to stream if you've got Amazon Prime.

Xlyfindel
Dec 16, 2003
Raw Esoteric
Great watch on a Lazy Sunday afternoon, thanks thread. The only horrible mechanical failures I have to show would be receipts for my goddamn service b maintenence that are almost as high as my rent.... And the fact that a single window button costs near $360 to replace! WTF? just give me another button, don't replace the entire drat switch assembly

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

Godholio posted:

Also available to stream if you've got Amazon Prime.

And on HBONow

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Xlyfindel posted:

Great watch on a Lazy Sunday afternoon, thanks thread. The only horrible mechanical failures I have to show would be receipts for my goddamn service b maintenence that are almost as high as my rent.... And the fact that a single window button costs near $360 to replace! WTF? just give me another button, don't replace the entire drat switch assembly

Junkyards, man...junkyards.

Also ebay.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



14 INCH SLIT posted:

That's not a horrible electrical failure, this is a horrible electrical failure.



I'd like to imagine this car tripped up on its own wiring, like a fat kid tripping up on his shoe laces.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Tubesock Holocaust posted:

I'd like to imagine this car tripped up on its own wiring, like a fat kid tripping up on his shoe laces.

It's more like a fat kid tripping over a curb and his spinal column falls out.

DPM
Feb 23, 2015

TAKE ME HOME
I'LL CHECK YA BUM FOR GRUBS

Dude is reaching for the chrome spraypaint right there

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Das Volk
Nov 19, 2002

by Cyrano4747

Collateral Damage posted:

Speaking of, is it too early to post the F-35 in this thread?

No. I was so excited about the original JSF bakeoff between Boeing and Lockheed. Then it started circling the drain during the development phase - keep in mind the contract was awarded in 2001 - the original development contracts were awarded in 1996.

So we got the shittiest airplane ever, which won over



the derpiest airplane ever.

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