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Conot posted:While the VAPE masks are obviously a call back to the 100/Neo 100, I feel like the show is kinda treating the police like idiots when we know that every person who Hajime zaps/cubefies is falling unconcious, and as we saw a number of them are in public places. Crowds isn't necessarily the only power that he can give--it's likely just the one that he felt would be the most amusing way to DESTROY THE WORLD!
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Conot posted:I wonder what the big deal is with Tsubasa not being able to transform unless shes angry. No one seems to have really gone "oh, yeah, that happens to everyone", and our only other frame of reference is Hajime from season 1, who figured it out as soon as she knew the activation phrase. I'm sure that'll be explaiend sooner or later. My guess right now is it's related to her running away from J.J. and not being all "cool, Gatcha me up!" like Hajime was. Probably something to do with not embracing either being a Gatchaman or an aspect of her personality, and when she resolves that conflict she'll do a normal Gatcha transformation, be way more powerful and save everyone. It's pretty bread and butter, but bread and butter is delicious and I wouldn't mind if they went with something along these lines.
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The new villain is dumb. He's proving that Crowds are bad by doing bad things with Crowds. It's like Decarte's proof of God in which he claims that the existence of god proves the existence of god. Everything else is still fun though. Still trying to figure out the point of Gel's existence in the show, though.
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Jul 12, 2015 21:41
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Everything Burrito posted:My assumption for the difference between JJ's and Katze's ability to create NOTEs is because Katze is imitating JJ and isn't actually the same kind of being. Was it not mentioned, at least obliquely, that he was at one time a Gatchaman himself? I don't remember exactly since it's been so long since I watched it. Katze has a note and a transformation, so he's as much of a Gatchaman as anybody else. NowonSA posted:I'm sure that'll be explaiend sooner or later. My guess right now is it's related to her running away from J.J. and not being all "cool, Gatcha me up!" like Hajime was. Probably something to do with not embracing either being a Gatchaman or an aspect of her personality, and when she resolves that conflict she'll do a normal Gatcha transformation, be way more powerful and save everyone. It might also be normal. We don't know if everybody who isn't a Social Media Buddha also figured the whole transformation deal out in like ten seconds flat.
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Everything Burrito posted:My assumption for the difference between JJ's and Katze's ability to create NOTEs is because Katze is imitating JJ and isn't actually the same kind of being. Was it not mentioned, at least obliquely, that he was at one time a Gatchaman himself? I don't remember exactly since it's been so long since I watched it. I don't remember if it was ever directly stated, but it was heavily implied with things like JJ's prophecy referring to him as a broken bird. Cerebral Bore posted:It might also be normal. We don't know if everybody who isn't a Social Media Buddha also figured the whole transformation deal out in like ten seconds flat. IIRC Sugane made a comment in episode 1 of the first season that if Hajime couldn't transform then she should just watch, so one could infer that others have issue transforming at will at first.
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I remember O.D. saying he couldn't transform for most of season 1. I forget why.
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Normie Slayer posted:I remember O.D. saying he couldn't transform for most of season 1. I forget why. He was just lying. He didn't want to transform since the last time he did he ended up destroying his home planet.
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Jul 12, 2015 22:48
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this show is really cool anyone who calls hajime a mary sue is a dummy
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Cake Attack posted:i wish to suffer the same fate as katze
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Cake Attack posted:i wish to suffer the same fate as katze 
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NowonSA posted:I'm sure that'll be explaiend sooner or later. My guess right now is it's related to her running away from J.J. and not being all "cool, Gatcha me up!" like Hajime was. Probably something to do with not embracing either being a Gatchaman or an aspect of her personality, and when she resolves that conflict she'll do a normal Gatcha transformation, be way more powerful and save everyone. I'm almost certain this will not happen. 'Power' is really not something Gatchaman Crowds is concerned with. Also I'm not convinced the new villain is a villain yet. Note that his actions have been entirely non-lethal so far, in contrast to, say, Berg Katze. Cake Attack posted:i wish to suffer the same fate as katze Fangz fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Fangz posted:my prediction is that gel is going to also end up in hajimes boobs where she and katze will fight eternally Gel will summon a speech bubble for Katze, which Katze will then fight with till the end of time.
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hajime will absorb all peoples and cultures into her boobs, like that ninja anime with the girl whose titties grew every time she defeated another ninja in combat
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Endorph posted:hajime will absorb all peoples and cultures into her boobs, like that ninja anime with the girl whose titties grew every time she defeated another ninja in combat Link?
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first result for 'boob ninja anime.' second was senran kagura.
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'Having not eaten for days, Chifusa and Kaede get a job at a maid bar, but soon get fired due to Chifusa's short temper around the rowdy customers. Collapsing due to hunger, they are rescued by a man whose daughter was strucken by a mysterious breast disappearance.'
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Sakurazuka posted:'Having not eaten for days, Chifusa and Kaede get a job at a maid bar, but soon get fired due to Chifusa's short temper around the rowdy customers. Collapsing due to hunger, they are rescued by a man whose daughter was strucken by a mysterious breast disappearance.'
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Sakurazuka posted:'Having not eaten for days, Chifusa and Kaede get a job at a maid bar, but soon get fired due to Chifusa's short temper around the rowdy customers. Collapsing due to hunger, they are rescued by a man whose daughter was strucken by a mysterious breast disappearance.' Welcome to my hard drive.
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ViggyNash posted:The new villain is dumb. He's proving that Crowds are bad by doing bad things with Crowds. It's like Decarte's proof of God in which he claims that the existence of god proves the existence of god. Gelsadra is concentrated nightmare fuel in a moe container and I fully expect the show to have her do something suitably horrifying in a few episodes. Speaking of her, I noticed the emoji bubbles popping up around her in the opening all turn red, rather than the relaxed pleasant green from episode 1.
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I have to say, the show is already hammering me with background sadness Gramps is still going through the same old routine, even though Tsubasa is going. I suspect hes gonna die before the end of this season
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Conot posted:I suspect hes gonna die before the end of this season Nooo but technically the next fireworks master would be her parents right? Also, I missed this show  Secretly, I wish I had Gatchaman powers of instant transportation as it'd cut down on my commute so much.
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the main baddie this season also seems to have a gatchabook. man, everyone is a gatcha this season. can't wait for prime minister to get his own gatcha. Hell, give everyone a gatcha, it's the next logical step.
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Conot posted:I have to say, the show is already hammering me with background sadness Davincie posted:
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pandaK posted:the main baddie this season also seems to have a gatchabook. man, everyone is a gatcha this season. Gatcha!
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So thanks to this topic I started watching Crowds, will probably check out Insight when I finish because it turns out this show is pretty good. Is this series at all related to the older Gatchaman stuff? Like if I went back and watched some of the old series would anything make more sense? Also Hajime annoyed the hell out of me in the beginning but now every scene she's in is a treat. I think this cartoon has driven me insane.
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The new series has virtually nothing in common with the old series other than the bird motif and like the name of the bad guy, I think.
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Nuebot posted:So thanks to this topic I started watching Crowds, will probably check out Insight when I finish because it turns out this show is pretty good. Is this series at all related to the older Gatchaman stuff? Like if I went back and watched some of the old series would anything make more sense? Also Hajime annoyed the hell out of me in the beginning but now every scene she's in is a treat. I think this cartoon has driven me insane. Crowds is to a very strong sense a deconstruction of the original series. I imagine if you were familiar with the original and the versions of the characters there you might get something out of that, but it is very much not necessary.
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it's a lot of things towards the original series, but 'deconstruction' isn't one of them
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Sakurazuka posted:The new series has virtually nothing in common with the old series other than the bird motif and like the name of the bad guy, I think. Which is kinda weird if you think about it. There were lots of people who were mad as hell because it's way different from the first Gatchaman, and I admit I was doubtful about the series when I started watching because of the name's legacy. They could have just changed the name and no one would have complained.
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Endorph posted:it's a lot of things towards the original series, but 'deconstruction' isn't one of them I'm curious why you think that. Okay, my familiarity with the original series is literally just the wikipedia article, but from that it seems pretty clearly a deconstruction. Or maybe I just don't understand the word well enough, because I'm taking to mean "taking the original work to pieces, questioning its fundamental assumptions, seeing what results". Bleh. I don't buy the argument that the show has 'nothing' to do with the original and could just be under a different, original name. I think Crowds is basically a response to the original, and in some ways it's in violent disagreement to it.
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pandaK posted:the main baddie this season also seems to have a gatchabook. man, everyone is a gatcha this season. I think he has a Berg Katzbook, like Rui used to. ViggyNash posted:The new villain is dumb. He's proving that Crowds are bad by doing bad things with Crowds. It's like Decarte's proof of God in which he claims that the existence of god proves the existence of god. It is a metaphor for gun control  It's a self-sustaining debate. Is it worse to disarm the people and rob them of their ability to defend themselves against a deadly threat, or is it worse to risk a destructive crossfire when people exercise their ability to defend themselves against a deadly threat?
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Fangz posted:Or maybe I just don't understand the word well enough, It's this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction?wprov=sfti1
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deadly_pudding posted:It is a metaphor for gun control It's very unlike guns, where proponents argue for the *capacity* for its use, not the normal usefulness of guns in regular life. . And of course guns aren't really in any sense anonymous. Hajime is basically the Tim Berners-Lee of this universe.
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I'm not familiar with the original Gatchaman, but Crowds is a response to superhero stories in general. It is critical of the secrecy and lack of accountability of superheroes, as well as their assumptions that they innately know better than everyone else. On that note, I have a suspicion that Hajime is going to get a rude awakening at some point. S1 spent alot of time focusing on Hajime, and she always took care to explain and articulate her madcap logic. This season, they're not explaining it in as much detail. Instead, we have that odd gray unchanging bubble over Hajime's head, and Tsubasa making frequent glances at Hajime's face, trying to read her expression. But she's not getting an answer. Tsubasa trusts in Hajime's decisions, she wants to trust in Hajime's decisions, but Hajime might just be over her head.
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