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I'm ok with Froome. I seriously don't get the hate itt. The guy conditions himself like crazy and watches his watts and the comments in here are "look at that skinny gross idiot". He does well on what could possibly be the aforementioned conditioning and its wall-to-wall comments about him obviously cheating. (He's done well in TTs his whole career from what I've seen). There are a lot of comments about how bad his bike handling is but a gif showing him recovering from a dickhole trying to wreck him and people cheer. He rode well on the pave this year and people still say he's poo poo. I get that people like the slag riders. I am not one of them. These guys are pretty amazing athletes. If you really want to give someone poo poo you should be all over dorks like Cancellara for that Amulet of Spartacus thing. That poo poo was actually embarrassing.
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he1ixx posted:I'm ok with Froome. I seriously don't get the hate itt. The problem with froome is that he was a complete nobody who got an illness that made him lose weight which dramatically improved his power/weight ratio and in addition to things like spinning at a higher cadence made him dominate GT's and that's a story we've all heard before. The other thing that makes people doubt him, including a well respected professor of sports science (https://twitter.com/Scienceofsport), is that to produce power you need muscle. There is a balance with a GT rider in that you want to be light enough to maximise watt/kg for climbs but not lose too much absolute mass that you don't get creamed in the ITT. Chris froome is possibly the most anorexic rider we've seen since rasmussen and to most people it's no coincidence he's had TUE's for corticosteroids (using those to lose weight was highlighted in the CIRC report) yet in 2013 not only does he come within 12s of tony martin in a flat TT, he absolutely obliterates everyone in the mountains. His performances are on the absolute limit of what is physiogically plausible (and many would argue have overstepped that by some margin) His story is one we've heard before from one rather legendary texan The arrogant PR from his team is super lovely (yep it's all down to smoothies and nice pillows) He rides staring at his power meter which kills what should be the most exciting bits of a stage race gently caress Chris Froome.
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Jul 13, 2015 01:33
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I've never understood why Sky is so bad at PR considering their sponsorship. And as to Froome/doping, I've just sort of accepted that all the top riders on doing it at this point. Contador had some pretty miraculous performances at the Giro this year(chasing down Aru and co after being over 3 minutes back by himself, while injured iirc), but he gets more slack because he's atleast exciting to watch.
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Jul 13, 2015 02:08
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he1ixx posted:I'm ok with Froome. I seriously don't get the hate itt. I don't think you get cycling.
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Jul 13, 2015 02:08
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Another cool thing is Froome was a nothing domestique who was going to be dropped by Sky til he met Michelle Cound, a peloton groupie who people found had posted on some south african cycling forum praising Armstrong and saying doping should be allowed, also I think her mom is a roided up bodybuilder and her dad got busted for trafficking steroids or something (not positive on all the details so please don't sue me Mrs. Froome). Pretty clear he stepped up AICAR/blood doping as a last ditch way to stay in the pro ranks before his breakout vuelta (he was getting dropped at tour of poland weeks before) and found he was, like Armstrong an excellent responder to drugs. He had teammates at Barloworld test positive at the tour in 07 too. But at the end of the day people don't like being lied to and having their intelligence insulted and thats the difference between Sky and other teams. If the racing wasnt so utterly boring people wouldn't hate them as much too.
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Jul 13, 2015 02:16
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Box Hill Strangler posted:gently caress froome I did like the TTT today though. That is one of my favorite events.
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Jul 13, 2015 02:33
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At this point, the only way for Froome to become likable or at the very least interesting would be for him to tear off his Sky jersey in Paris to reveal a vintage '98 Festina jersey underneath.
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Jul 13, 2015 02:49
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clean ayers act posted:I've never understood why Sky is so bad at PR considering their sponsorship. Not from me, Contador is a doping oval office. The point tho for many is that it appears Contador isn't doing anything over and above what the majority of the peleton are also doing and if you for a moment found a way to make cycling utterly clean, he's most likely going to be right up there anyway - Froome and Sky are just outright taking the piss out of the rest of the peleton. Without AICAR and whatever is the other drug used to activate the genes for that freakish body fat ratio, he'd barely be a domestique. I'll accept a certain amount of doping in ALL sports will go on, no matter what is done to stop it. Team Sky and Froome are like watching Armstrong all over again however.
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Jul 13, 2015 04:03
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Are there any good books on the Festina affair? I finished The Secret Race, which was a great read, and would love something in the same vein about all the crazy poo poo the Festina team were doing up until they got busted.
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Jul 13, 2015 07:38
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Froome is just unlikeable that's all. He's a good athlete, obviously they all have to be at the very top of the elite even before drugs. It's just that he rides like a weird noodly freakster and is super boring and predictable. I'm sure all sports have people and teams that win that way, in the most boring and defensive and predictable manner. They get the win but a lot of people would start going for those with a bit of flair, just because they bring some excitement and spirit to it.
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kim jong-illin posted:Are there any good books on the Festina affair? I finished The Secret Race, which was a great read, and would love something in the same vein about all the crazy poo poo the Festina team were doing up until they got busted. There's a book called Breaking the Chain by Willy Voet who was one of the mechanics, or maybe he was a soigner, can't remember, but he was the one who was arrested driving the car full of the drugs. From what I remember there were some pretty interesting revelations in it about the casual use of drugs and doping.
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Jul 13, 2015 09:18
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Pot Belge, the team bus drivers' drug of choice. Also funny was the tale of injecting saline into an athlete mid-race from the car window and it still gave the guy a boost. Pocket fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Jul 13, 2015 09:39
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The way Contador rode the Giro was brilliantly entertaining. Drugs or not, watching Froome just grind everyone into submission is deathly boring by comparison.
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Jul 13, 2015 09:41
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Remember Chris Frame on Mount Ventoux after a 240km stage? Just beating confirmed dopers left and right, that was totally natural. Chris Froome went from a 24 year nobody to now being a TT, mountain, cobblestone and Hill specialist
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King Hong Kong posted:At this point, the only way for Froome to become likable or at the very least interesting would be for him to tear off his Sky jersey in Paris to reveal a vintage '98 Festina jersey underneath. I wonder if the watchmaker company was mad when that whole thing happened. gently caress Froome, I hope he takes a wrong turn into a ravine. What kind of stage is it today?
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Jul 13, 2015 11:06
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Its a rest day.
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Jul 13, 2015 11:11
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gently caress I have the day off and it's raining
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Phlegmish posted:I wonder if the watchmaker company was mad when that whole thing happened. I read on inrng many moons ago that Festina enjoyed an uptick in sales afterward. Pocket fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Jul 13, 2015 11:45
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Phlegmish posted:I wonder if the watchmaker company was mad when that whole thing happened. IIRC some journalists went to them and asked, they didn't care. ...also what pocket said.
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Jul 13, 2015 11:48
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clean ayers act posted:all the top riders on doing it at this point sigh
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Jul 13, 2015 12:04
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peanut- posted:The way Contador rode the Giro was brilliantly entertaining. Drugs or not, watching Froome just grind everyone into submission is deathly boring by comparison. I'll give Contador his due, winning after that kind of injury early in the race was legit amazing. And last year he tried to ride on with a loving broken leg.
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Jul 13, 2015 12:12
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The Giro was fuckin' nuts as well. The secret pro article everyone forgot about was all about poo poo being cray.
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Pocket posted:The Giro was fuckin' nuts as well. The secret pro article everyone forgot about was all about poo poo being cray. That was the one where he was saying even people in the peloton were surprised at how hard it was being raced yeah?
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Jul 13, 2015 12:31
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Ivan Basso has been diagnosed with testicular cancer. The worst rest day raid
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quote:There were days when you’d just despair. I know myself, my teammates and many of the guys in the peloton aren’t crap riders — we’d trained, eaten and prepared for the race 100%; we’d had the best form it’s humanly possible to achieve. And then we came up against guys who simply took the piss. Source for those who missed it
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Smirr posted:Ivan Basso has been diagnosed with testicular cancer. The worst rest day raid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etwi_V6AorU Edit: for those who haven't seen Overcoming. Someone in Basso's family is ill with cancer, Lance reaches out to Basso and visits the hotel and gives support, words of encouragement and maybe even speaks on the phone to the relative, we find out later in private Lance told Basso to follow him on the final climb tomorrow. Pocket fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Someone took the data from froomes power meter on ventoux and synced it with the video which is p.cool and they should legit do this for broadcasts. His attack to drop contador starts at around 28 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99dqfiQcbio His hr doesn't budge even when he pushes over 1000 watts to drop quintana
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Jul 13, 2015 20:57
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They should check his frame for motors. And his bike.
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Jul 13, 2015 21:51
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Someone took the data from froomes power meter on ventoux and synced it with the video which is p.cool and they should legit do this for broadcasts. His attack to drop contador starts at around 28 minutes Makes me sick to my stomach
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Someone took the data from froomes power meter on ventoux and synced it with the video which is p.cool and they should legit do this for broadcasts. His attack to drop contador starts at around 28 minutes I shouldnt have watched this. Now I'm wall-punchingly angry. May a hungry bear eat him tomorrow, even though there's no flesh on his bones
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Jul 13, 2015 22:16
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Box Hill Strangler posted:gently caress froome
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Jul 13, 2015 22:29
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gently caress, it's already gone.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:35
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For those Froome haters: http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/news/in-the-news-sky-suspects-froomes-training-data-has-been-hacked_378047 Sky believes someone stole Froome's power data to frame him for doping.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:47
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lmao Sky you morons Why on earth would you admit it was stolen and not simply say it's fake? Now anything that comes out of this is presumed to be real because it's from his own training data.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:59
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drat it I was going to watch that in full HD glory and laugh my rear end off. What are they hiding? I love the Tour. 
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Lol well that 100% confirms the data was genuine good job sky
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Sooo can't wait to poo poo up the Guardian Cycling comments section tomorrow.
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Pocket posted:Sooo can't wait to poo poo up the Guardian Cycling comments section tomorrow. Do you think Sky believers are worse than the Livestrong bunch ever were?
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Was it a video of this data from 2013: https://twitter.com/festinaboy/status/618171008038608901 ?
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