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Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011

Disco Infiva posted:

Just be careful!



Excuse me :colbert:

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Nintendo Kid posted:

It's the same deal in a lot of the US, not all the states explicitly outlaw bestiality but they all outlaw animal cruelty.
So you can't gently caress a sheep but you can make love to one?

ferroque
Oct 27, 2007

Sheep can't give consent so no.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
You can legally do a lot of things to a sheep that they can't consent to.

Even pump them full of semen (as long as you're doing it to make more sheep and not for fun).

Bestiality laws aren't there because of issues of consent (vegans aside), they're there because the majority of people in those states think that it's gross and don't want it going on.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Kennel posted:

Countries where it is legal to have sex with an animal.


Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Sweden and Norway made it illegal just few years ago.

I remember reading that when the Netherlands made it illegal the animal porn ground zero moved to Denmark, so is either that map wrong, my memory wrong, or did Denmark also ban it recently?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Orange Devil posted:

I remember reading that when the Netherlands made it illegal the animal porn ground zero moved to Denmark, so is either that map wrong, my memory wrong, or did Denmark also ban it recently?

This or last year for that exact reason.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Jerry Cotton posted:

This or last year for that exact reason.

So we more or less know what will be the next Finnish export product now that mobile phones have finally completely shat themselves.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Der Kyhe posted:

So we more or less know what will be the next Finnish export product now that mobile phones have finally completely shat themselves.

Well the Soini party is in cabinet and Roman Catholics have never been opposed to any kind of weird sex.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Jerry Cotton posted:

This or last year for that exact reason.
Goddamn immigrants, can't loving leave their disgusting customs back in whatever poo poo hole countries they come from.

SaltyJesus
Jun 2, 2011

Arf!

Oh, that's loving awesome. I stopped reading the EE thread for a stretch of like a month because it was getting too awful (again).

e:

Disco Infiva posted:

Yep, first printed edition from 1818. and in a decent shape too. The only thing not original are the covers, but even they are probably older than first Yugoslavia.

:holymoley:

Disco Infiva posted:

I noticed how Bulgarian nationalists aren't also claiming Niš. Those are shameful nationalists if you ask me, it's like they're not even serious.

Some do, actually. :D

Because I'm a lazy gently caress sometimes I'll just quote wiki again.

quote:

About 987, the town was taken by the Bulgarian Emperor Simeon I.
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In 1203, Kaloyan of Bulgaria annexed Niš.
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In the 19th century the area was one of the centres of Bulgarian National Revival. The French Jérôme-Adolphe Blanqui, when traveling across Balkans in 1841, describes the population of the Sanjak of Niš as Bulgarians.[16] In 1870, Niš was included in the Bulgarian Exarchate.[17] The city was also stipulated the area to be ceded to Bulgaria according to the Constantinople Conference in 1876.[18] Serbian author Milan Savic in his book "History of the Bulgarian people until the end of its state" issued in Novi Sad wrote, that at his time (1878) Nis and environs were Bulgarian populated.[19]
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In World War I, Niš was the wartime capital of Serbia, hosting the Government and the National Assembly, until Central Powers conquered Serbia in November 1915, when the city was ceded to Bulgaria.

Because of one or more of these, but mostly the blob starting with "in the 19th century", some very optimistic Bulgarian nationalist still do consider Niš rightful Bulgarian clay.

SaltyJesus fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Jul 14, 2015

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

Falukorv posted:

To be fair, at least in swedens case, most is already covered by animal cruelty laws. Pretty pointless law, cases where you can prove zoophilia without outward signs of damage or cruelty are very rare.

This post is confusing. Do you know that Suomi is Finland?

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
The Finnish Prime minister is also a member in a pedo cult and he's in the Agrarian party so he fucks animals too.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Hogge Wild posted:

The Finnish Prime minister is also a member in a pedo cult and he's in the Agrarian party so he fucks animals too.

Yeah but only the youngest.

fuck off Batman
Oct 14, 2013

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah!


SaltyJesus posted:

Oh, that's loving awesome. I stopped reading the EE thread for a stretch of like a month because it was getting too awful (again).

e:


:holymoley:


Some do, actually. :D

Because I'm a lazy gently caress sometimes I'll just quote wiki again.


Because of one or more of these, but mostly the blob starting with "in the 19th century", some very optimistic Bulgarian nationalist still do consider Niš rightful Bulgarian clay.

Yeah, it's pretty sweet. My late maternal grandfather was a collectionaire and I had no idea we also had српски рjечник (apparently with "-je" and not "-e", didn't know that before) among other things. To you Americans in here, it's like a Brit suddenly finding out that he has first printed edition of Declaration of Independence in his attic. poo poo's bananas I tell you whut!

Also Salty, wouldn't it be awesome if there is an alternative thread for these things, because EE thread is always dominated by Ukrainian war and Russia and that isn't going to change that soon, while this thread is for maps and not words *wink wink nudge nudge*

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Guavanaut posted:

You can legally do a lot of things to a sheep that they can't consent to.

Even pump them full of semen (as long as you're doing it to make more sheep and not for fun).

Bestiality laws aren't there because of issues of consent (vegans aside), they're there because the majority of people in those states think that it's gross and don't want it going on.

:eng101: According to a friend's friend, in some places veterinary students can get a rather well-paid weekend job in pig breeding. Specifically, in pig semen collecting. Yes, they are literally jacking off boars.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
Thanks for the bestiality derail

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

That must be a great pickup line. Or during a job interview. What was your previous occupation?

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Torrannor posted:

This post is confusing. Do you know that Suomi is Finland?

Kennel posted:

Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Sweden and Norway made it illegal just few years ago.

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

Are there any nations currently that have achieved irredentism? Is Greater Slovenia a thing?

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa
America

Sea to shining sea, bitches

e: I mean we missed out on Canada and Cuba and the Phillipines, and Puerto Rico and Guam are sort of in limbo, but still counts.

Tree Goat fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jul 15, 2015

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Whorelord posted:

Are there any nations currently that have achieved irredentism? Is Greater Slovenia a thing?

Bosnian Serbs? Russia with Crimea? Poland (although that was arranged for them by a third party :ussr:)? Turkey murdering all of its minorities?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

icantfindaname posted:

Bosnian Serbs? Russia with Crimea? Poland (although that was arranged for them by a third party :ussr:)? Turkey murdering all of its minorities?

Poland don't count because they lost the back half of the original interwar country to other countries at the same time.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
China

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

Tree Goat posted:

America

Sea to shining sea, bitches

e: I mean we missed out on Canada and Cuba and the Phillipines, and Puerto Rico and Guam are sort of in limbo, but still counts.

No, that's wrong, if only because clearly "Greater USA" encompasses the entire globe. :911:

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Romania had pretty much all of its wildest nationalist territorial ambitions fulfilled after World War I, so youve got a couple decades of successful irridentism there. And they even got to keep most of it after WW2!

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

DrSunshine posted:

No, that's wrong, if only because clearly "Greater USA" encompasses the entire globe. :911:

And especially the moon.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

icantfindaname posted:

Bosnian Serbs? Russia with Crimea? Poland (although that was arranged for them by a third party :ussr:)? Turkey murdering all of its minorities?

Not all of Greater Turkey :cryingsuleiman:

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
I think you mean:

3peat
May 6, 2010

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!


:colbert:

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.



:eng99:

SaltyJesus
Jun 2, 2011

Arf!

Whorelord posted:

Is Greater Slovenia a thing?

SaltyJesus posted:

You know what? Have some crazy maps. The history of Greater Slovenia is yearning to be heard so lend me your ears and your eyes. Pro-click: Repository Of Crazy Maps





The legend on the next one says:
"Settlement extent of Slovenes, then and now."
Red border: Today's national border
Black border: Border of Slovenian Republic
Bright yellow: Slovenes inside SR
Dull yellow: Slovenes outside SR
Pink: Slovenes in the year 0






Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Some of them seem to be comparing the general South Slavic settlement area (or large parts of it) to modern-day Slovenia, even though the various different nations hadn't come into being yet. It would be like making a map of the Franks during Charlemagne's time and outlining modern Flanders. It doesn't make any historical sense.

Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Jul 15, 2015

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Phlegmish posted:

It would be like making a map of the Franks during Charlemagne's time and outlining modern Flanders. It doesn't make any historical sense.

Of course it doesn't make sense. Those aren't the borders of a Greater Flanders, but of a Greater Franconia. :colbert:

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Tried looking for Greater Liechtenstein just for shits, but did find Greater Luxembourg.


3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Is there a word for this kinda-sorta reverse irredentism? (I mean it's not even separatism since the Russians took care of that a few hundred years ago.)

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?


Jerry Cotton posted:

Is there a word for this kinda-sorta reverse irredentism? (I mean it's not even separatism since the Russians took care of that a few hundred years ago.)



“Byelarus“, lol

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

System Metternich posted:

“Byelarus“, lol

What's lol about that?

Hambilderberglar
Dec 2, 2004

Orange Devil posted:

I remember reading that when the Netherlands made it illegal the animal porn ground zero moved to Denmark, so is either that map wrong, my memory wrong, or did Denmark also ban it recently?
I was working in the webhosting industry at the time that went through and shortly after it was made illegal a client who was in the animal porn business moved his poo poo to Sweden. So I totally buy that animal porn ground zero shifted after the legislative climate in NL became hostile.

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Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008


I don't get this map's logic at all.

Like, if Luxembourg's claiming cultural proximity, Liège and Limburg would make sense (though why not include Belgian Limburg), and so do, I suppose borderland areas where they speak similar dialects, but why North Brabant and Zeeland? Why Namur, which was actually a vassal territory of Flanders for centuries? I mean, you might as well go whole hog and unify the Benelux countries while you're at it.

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