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Lisandra_brave posted:Reptiles will never get good support because this exists. Dropping Vennominaga was always fun at least.
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Jul 21, 2015 06:02
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Lisandra_brave posted:Reptiles will never get good support because this exists. That's what the banlist is for!
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Jul 21, 2015 06:09
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Dexie posted:That's what the banlist is for! I thought the banlist was for killing meta decks to push the new chase cards.
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Jul 21, 2015 06:51
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Onmi posted:I thought the banlist was for killing meta decks to push the new chase cards. Yeah man that banlist sure is killing burning abyss.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:19
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I am not sure what exactly I am expected to do with D/D Baphomet. Summon Kali Yuga? He's not that good.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:46
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paradoxGentleman posted:I am not sure what exactly I am expected to do with D/D Baphomet. Summon Kali Yuga? He's not that good. Kali Yuga is the clinch monster. One turn Denko Sekka/Skill Drain all in one. And D/D Baphomet is secretly amazing for synchro play. Damnit Konami stop putting restrictions on easily playing with my tuner levels. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 09:01
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Greydles seem like the premiere archetype of this pack in being a loving rear end in a top hat, especially the spells and traps. 
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Jul 21, 2015 10:48
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Onmi posted:"I am the King! There is only one!" "Yeah I'm sure King Calamity will be okay, but I don't think it'll be so good that it'll push Scar-Red Nova Dragon out of the deck entirely. ^ A gay idiot  Dark_Tzitzimine posted:-So is finally confirmed that Gaia becomes BLS, uh?. That was always the case! Didn't any of you people read the original manga?!  Dexie posted:Reptiles are unfortunate victims of Yugioh having too many drat monster types. I really want Reptiles to get good again because I really liked the Venom deck and want it to be good. Vennominaga was the coolest alternate win condition but she's loving impossible to get out. 
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Jul 21, 2015 11:41
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VJeff posted:I really want Reptiles to get good again because I really liked the Venom deck and want it to be good. Vennominaga was the coolest alternate win condition but she's loving impossible to get out. Alt win conditions need their own meta. I'd love mill format.
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Jul 21, 2015 16:31
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Zoness posted:How important is leo or star eater in shaddolls? I'm looking for something to side out for trish using this extra deck listing (shamelessly copied from a july 2015 european wcq winner): Deck Profile from the player who ran the deck, and an explanation for his choices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oer_n3pzMXE Interstingly enough, he says that he would have rather played a Compulsory Evacuation Device over Mind Control. This was a day ago, but to answer your question: Star Eater is very important because it is the deck's only out to Qliphort Towers, and Qliphorts are one of Shaddoll's worst matchups. Leo is a very good generic Synchro that the deck can make easily (Falco + Construct / Effect Veiler + Shaddoll Core), and basically requires non-tageting removal to get rid of it. He chose to run Samsara, Dragon of Rebirth over Armades or another Rank 5 since he found that it worked wonders as a defensive stall option. He also ran triple Effect Veiler, so that + any Level 4 makes this card. Most players also use 2 Hedgehog, but he uses 3, which makes it a lot easier to make Level 5 Synchros. He also ran 1 Soul Charge, and he reasoned that is you can special summon Construct from grave against Nekroz, then they need to Trishula it or draw Raigeki, otherwise they lose. Depending on your meta, I would say remove Samsara, but it is good against Nekroz.
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Jul 21, 2015 22:09
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So if you're struggling with the Chain Rules (Yugioh's version of the Stack) this handy chart should help you
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Jul 22, 2015 05:48
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3 things to take note of from this: 1.Both players have to agree to move onto the next Phase. If my opponent sets up their field, and declares they want to enter the battle phase, I can tell them to hold on, and activate "Blaze Accelerator Reload" (Which can only be activated during the main phase). There have been many times where people try to rule shark me by saying "too late, battle phase" or "set cards in main phase 2, go to end phase". 2.If my opponent uses a card like Reinforcements of the Army to add a card to their hand, I can chain Mind Crush after it resolves, in order to discard that card, according to box "c" in the bottom of that diagram. Be sure never to declare quick-play spell cards, since they can always chain them, and make you discard instead! 3.This is a bit of history lesson, but there used to be a "thing" that older players refered to as "Priority", which involved summoning a monster like Dark Armed Dragon or Rescue Rabbit, having a Torrential Tribute or Bottomless Trap Hole activated in response to its summon, and them being able to use the ignition effects before those cards resolved. This diagram, when it got printed in the rulebooks, was very important because it straight up say: "No. "Priority" is illegal. You are playing the game wrong." Quick Effects (Those that can be activated during either player's turn) can still be chained in this way, but that is because it is a part of the game mechanic.
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Jul 22, 2015 14:47
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According to the right-hand side of that flowchart, I can pass in my main phase, see if my opponent passes, and then say "nah nevermind, I don't want to go to the battle phase yet" and basically just see if my opponent has anything to play at no real cost. Is that correct?
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Jul 22, 2015 15:32
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I feel as if "both players agree" is just a safety clause to stop arguments more than anything now. Either that, or a holdover from priority times. Fun fact: as of last year, the Konami judge test still required you to know priority inside and out to get qualified. GG.
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Jul 22, 2015 15:32
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Jabor posted:According to the right-hand side of that flowchart, I can pass in my main phase, see if my opponent passes, and then say "nah nevermind, I don't want to go to the battle phase yet" and basically just see if my opponent has anything to play at no real cost. Is that correct? Nah, it's like chess moves. If you've declared your intention to pass, you have to pass. A similar thing is if you're searching your deck for a monster, take one out and put it on the table to decide if you want it, or feel out your opponent, you have to go with it. The amount of times I've had people put down a card, hold their deck for a couple of seconds and do nothing but look at me, waiting for me to respond so they can go "dude i'm still deciding", is ridiculous.
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Jul 22, 2015 15:37
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Ok so here's something I've seen on ygopro jamming against AI - if I have Shooting Quasar Dragon (without having activated its negate effect) out and the AI SS's Collapserpent, tributes it to Caius, and then I don't seem to get a timing window to activate Quasar's ability on the Caius trigger as it puts Caius trigger + Collapserpent trigger "on the stack" (sorry I'm super used to magic lingo if thats not the best way to say it). Am I supposed to be trying to get in my Quasar effect between those triggers somehow (is there a button i hold in ygopro to do this). Have I missed the opportunity to negate Caius's effect if the Collapserpent effect is activated? It is the app version so maybe that's a bug? And they're not dead since in this scenario I either upstarted twice or used soul charge to get out quasar  .Julias posted:
I remember one of the DS games letting you do this with Judgment dragon and definitely remember them having the priority thing with DAD. Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong and it was you had a window to activate an ignition effect with DAD/Rabbit/JD before they had a chance to activate their trap but they could still activate the trap after you put the ignition ability "on the stack"? Zoness fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 15:39
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Cabinet posted:Fun fact: as of last year, the Konami judge test still required you to know priority inside and out to get qualified. GG. Wow. Why?
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Jul 22, 2015 16:17
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No, there's no time between collapserpent and caius. Yugioh has a thing about Simultaneous effects going on chain, and various rules relating to that. Basically, turn player activates mandatory triggers in whatever order, opposing player activates mandatory triggers in whatever order, turn player's optionals, opponent's optionals. TCG has some weird rulings about how things have to be put together as well, but then again, TCG has weird rulings about all sorts of poo poo.
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Jul 22, 2015 17:02
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Slur posted:Wow. Why? gently caress if I know!
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Jul 22, 2015 21:37
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Chicken Race/Game is a dumb card. Sure is awesome giving Exodia more power. Sure is awesome adding more FTK power to the game. Sure is awesome giving decks nine copies of Upstart Goblin.
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Jul 23, 2015 00:55
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Chicken Game x3 Pseudospace x3 Terraforming x3 Upstart Goblin x3 Royal Magical Library x3 That's fine. This is fine. There's nothing wrong with this. This isn't hell.
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Jul 23, 2015 01:32
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Lisandra_brave posted:No, there's no time between collapserpent and caius. Yugioh has a thing about Simultaneous effects going on chain, and various rules relating to that. A Perfect Example of this weirdness: I have Elemental Hero Absolute Zero on the field, and use the Quick-Play Spell Card Mask Change on it, sending it to the Graveyard and Special Summoning Masked Hero Acid. If Absolute Zero is sent to the Graveyard, you blow up all monsters your opponent controls, and if Acid is summoned, you blow up all Spell and Trap cards your opponent controls. (Very Legit combo, blow up everything on your opponent's side of the field.)These are both Mandatory Effects, so according to SEGOC (Similar Effects Go On Chain), both of these effects form a chain. Since they are both mandatory, you can choose to put them in any order, destroying the monsters or the spells first. Right? If you play in the OCG (Japan, Asia), then yes. BUT in the TCG, it is ruled that Absolute zero has to be the first chain link, meaning that Acid's effect to destroy Spells and Traps will occur first. Why? Apparently because Absolute Zero leaving the field occurs before Acid is summoned, though this is a special occurrence because it doesn't interfere with When...you can effects. Basically, quantum mechanic levels of time passed, not enough for it to be considered moving on to the next event, but enough that Absolute Zero has to Trigger first.
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Jul 23, 2015 02:02
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Hjalmar posted:Chicken Game x3 Don't forget Terraforming x2-3, Into the Void x3, One Day of Peace x1 ...
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Jul 23, 2015 02:04
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Julias posted:A Perfect Example of this weirdness: I have Elemental Hero Absolute Zero on the field, and use the Quick-Play Spell Card Mask Change on it, sending it to the Graveyard and Special Summoning Masked Hero Acid. If Absolute Zero is sent to the Graveyard, you blow up all monsters your opponent controls, and if Acid is summoned, you blow up all Spell and Trap cards your opponent controls. (Very Legit combo, blow up everything on your opponent's side of the field.)These are both Mandatory Effects, so according to SEGOC (Similar Effects Go On Chain), both of these effects form a chain. Since they are both mandatory, you can choose to put them in any order, destroying the monsters or the spells first. Right? I do not believe this is how YGOPro simulates this. EDIT: I'm not saying you're wrong. Just the program does it wrong.
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Jul 23, 2015 03:30
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YGOpro uses OCG game mechanics by default. I'm not sure if there's a way to make it use TCG mechanics. Incidentally, knowing how to put your simultaneous effects in the right order is the key to dodging negation and to playing pure artifacts most effectively. Hint: Summon Caduceus first, so it's on field to see the others get summoned.
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Jul 23, 2015 03:41
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Onmi posted:I do not believe this is how YGOPro simulates this. EDIT: I'm not saying you're wrong. Just the program does it wrong. I have to admit that I always used the Noble Arms re-equipping effect wrong before trying NK on YGOPro. I was under the impression that the arms didn't activate if the equipped monster was used for Synchro/XYZ/Tribute summon. Turns out I was wrong. I've never been so grateful of being wrong before 
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 quote:This holiday season Yu-Gi-Oh! fans can re-live the entire history of the original Duelist! King of Games – Yugi’s Legendary Decks contains three different Decks used by the “King of Games” himself, plus several unique, collectible foil cards, all in one magnificent set! http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/products/king_of_games.html That's a lot of stuff for 30 bucks.
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Jul 23, 2015 15:15
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I'm disappointed that there aren't 40+ kuriboh tokens. The yugi token is pretty funny tho I guess. Man what a terrible arc that was.
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Jul 23, 2015 15:37
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I'm happy we're finally getting these collector's cards after so long. 10-year old me will be very satisfied with this.
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Jul 23, 2015 16:12
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Its time.... To duel.
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Jul 23, 2015 16:45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNtGqajfrLs #UnchainMyBrotherLavalval (This guy's YGO animations are pretty nifty.)
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Jul 23, 2015 21:42
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Today is a dark day. TheDuelLogs finally ran out of puns.
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Jul 24, 2015 01:34
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Dabir posted:Today is a dark day. Who?
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Jul 24, 2015 01:51
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Onmi posted:The Duel Logs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?TheDuelLogs He had a pun on every video, and now he's run out.
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Jul 24, 2015 01:55
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Well, Eccentric Archfiend has it's TCG name (Archfiend Eccentrick), and of course KoA bumped it up from a common to a loving secret.
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Jul 24, 2015 05:35
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Dabir posted:Today is a dark day. Guy has been pumping out videos at a ridiculous rate lately so that doesn't surprise me.
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Jul 24, 2015 07:24
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Lisandra_brave posted:Well, Eccentric Archfiend has it's TCG name (Archfiend Eccentrick), and of course KoA bumped it up from a common to a loving secret. I feel this. Anjelly was a common in the OCG, an ultra in the TCG. $1 card up to $45 overnight. Good poo poo.
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Jul 24, 2015 08:12
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Transmodify was a rare and a structure deck common. Secret rare, hope you like warped cards that look poo poo.
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We need a stall/set/stun based format again. I hate that every deck in the world wins in 1-2 turns now; it barely lets me sit down and enjoy the game.
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