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Soylentbits posted:The news is comedy that thinks it's news. The news is a pill commercial that thinks it's news.
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MaskedTai posted:Everyone always said there'd be a day you agree with Irish Joe. Huh? The show is a thought provoking political commentary....
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Jul 22, 2015 04:07
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Oliver's focus on the charitable credit's fate in the Senate was a little weird. I know exactly what he was talking about, but it's just because I have a weird thing for Congress and their strange rules. The Constitution contains a provision that all revenue bills must be started in the House. If someone wants to pass a bill that involves increasing or reducing revenues received by the federal government, that bill's origin must come from the House. But sometimes, the Senate wants to pass the bill first. They can't originate a revenue bill, so they perform a trick. They take a revenue bill that has already passed the House but which has died in the Senate, hollow it out, and then put their new bill inside the old bill's shell. Voila, you have a revenue bill that originated from the House, so the bill won't ultimately be found to be unconstitutional due to originating from the wrong side of the legislature. HR 644 was a bill that couldn't pass the Senate. It died there, and then its corpse was used for an unrelated parliamentary trick.
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Jul 22, 2015 18:58
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Yeah, but that unrelated trick didn't pass the house. Which sounds really wrong.
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Jul 22, 2015 19:09
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M_Gargantua posted:Yeah, but that unrelated trick didn't pass the house. Which sounds really wrong. It did pass the House. When one body modifies the text of a bill and then approves it, the bill travels to the other chamber for them to concur with the new version. The Senate hollowed out the bill in May, and the House voted for the new text of the bill in June. No bill becomes law until both chambers have approved the exact same text.
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Jul 22, 2015 19:57
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Politics is weird.
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Jul 23, 2015 12:35
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Politics is weird. And creepy.
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Jul 23, 2015 13:55
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FetusSlapper posted:And creepy. And now, I know, lacks even the loosest attachment to anything like reality.
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Jul 24, 2015 06:50
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Technogeek posted:And now, I know, lacks even the loosest attachment to anything like reality. It's been like that ever since "politician" became something you do your entire life. Ancient Greek democracy was basically something you did as a side job before you went back to your normal life, kind of like jury duty. Somehow we took that idea and figured the best thing to do with it was create a class of people who spend their entire lives as politicians. Then those people have kids and those kids become politicians themselves. Politics is out of touch with reality because the only people politicians ever meet are other politicians.
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Jul 24, 2015 07:03
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The Cheshire Cat posted:It's been like that ever since "politician" became something you do your entire life. Ancient Greek democracy was basically something you did as a side job before you went back to your normal life, kind of like jury duty. Somehow we took that idea and figured the best thing to do with it was create a class of people who spend their entire lives as politicians. Then those people have kids and those kids become politicians themselves. I'm guessing you missed the joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuF03PTNpp8
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Jul 24, 2015 07:28
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Me and my GF are going to be in NYC during September. We're both huge fans of the show and figured it'd be fun to catch a filming. The website only lets you book tickets as far as August. Does anyone know if it will still be filming during September?
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Jul 26, 2015 15:04
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The Cheshire Cat posted:It's been like that ever since "politician" became something you do your entire life. Ancient Greek democracy was basically something you did as a side job before you went back to your normal life, kind of like jury duty. Somehow we took that idea and figured the best thing to do with it was create a class of people who spend their entire lives as politicians. Then those people have kids and those kids become politicians themselves. How many politicians are first generation politicians and how many are part of political dynasties? I'm guessing that those who enter politics because it's the family business are actually few in number. If on the other hand you want to complain about it being a rich person's game, that's a horse of a different color.
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Jul 26, 2015 15:22
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Me and my GF are going to be in NYC during September. We're both huge fans of the show and figured it'd be fun to catch a filming. Yeah, they are doing 35 episodes this year which should take them to a similar endpoint as last year.
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Jul 26, 2015 15:39
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The Cheshire Cat posted:It's been like that ever since "politician" became something you do your entire life. Ancient Greek democracy was basically something you did as a side job before you went back to your normal life, kind of like jury duty. Somehow we took that idea and figured the best thing to do with it was create a class of people who spend their entire lives as politicians. Then those people have kids and those kids become politicians themselves. The Texas legislature acts exactly how the Greeks did it and they're sill a worthless sack of poo poo because it's a bunch of rich people who are usually tied into the industries they're legislating.
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Jul 26, 2015 15:47
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Jul 27, 2015 08:44
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Technogeek posted:I'm guessing you missed the joke. Maybe some of the truest words ever spoken. I knew about mandatory minimums but good lord, life without parole for a first offense. 
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Jul 27, 2015 13:25
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Did you first learn about them from the season one West Wing episode? 
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Jul 27, 2015 15:40
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Mo_Steel posted:I knew about mandatory minimums but good lord, life without parole for a first offense. In all fairness, he was a gun-toting drug lord. Not really the most sympathetic figure with which to decry mandatory minimums.
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Jul 27, 2015 16:02
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Any exposure is good exposure I suppose but who doesn't already know about this?
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Jul 27, 2015 16:37
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Jul 27, 2015 16:42
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Mo_Steel posted:Maybe some of the truest words ever spoken. The 80s and 90s were a horrific time for non-violent drug offenders and wholly innocent suspects in general. You have the Satanic cult moral panics, the Child Abuse moral panics, and the Evil Drugs are taking over moral panics, all of which led to laws and exceptions made in the interest of protecting the "victims" at the expense of people being thrown in jail for years without trials. One of my favorite/worst moral panic stories (besides the McKern school trial which was a massive joke to any outside observer) was one case where a sheriff's daughter told her father she was taken by a Satanic cult and molested, and so he drove her around with her in the back seat of his cop car, she pointed out the houses where she was "taken" and then the people living at those houses were arrested as child molesters en masse. It was literally a modern day Salem Witch Trials for close to a decade. And this poo poo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three Where the fact that they played Dungeons and Dragons made them prime suspects number one. Oh, and a mentally deficient teen was coerced into confessing the exact details the police needed to convict the other 2.
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Jul 27, 2015 16:43
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Any exposure is good exposure I suppose but who doesn't already know about this? A fair number of people actually. Most Americans are pretty unfamiliar with their justice system and don't really know that this is a thing. Especially Americans that never experienced the 80's. Even the ones who know that this used to be a thing usually believe that people that were effected by it had their sentences retroactively changed. MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Jul 27, 2015 16:49
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The Cheshire Cat posted:It's been like that ever since "politician" became something you do your entire life. So, like, 99% of human history.
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Jul 27, 2015 16:50
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I swear to god, everything Reagan ever did was terrible.computer parts posted:The Texas legislature acts exactly how the Greeks did it and they're sill a worthless sack of poo poo because it's a bunch of rich people who are usually tied into the industries they're legislating. Please. Texas only wishes that they could exile one person a year like Athens did.
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Jul 27, 2015 17:50
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SlothfulCobra posted:I swear to god, everything Reagan ever did was terrible. In the interest of fairness, God Emperor Reagan did a lot of things the current crop of psychos would considering disgustingly liberal. But yeah good god did he have some disastrous policies.
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Jul 27, 2015 18:36
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Let's not forget that through the power of Astrology, he and Nancy bent the stars and the Zodiac to their will to astrally force Gorbachev to dissolve the USSR. "The Moon is in the Seventh House and Jupiter's aligned with Mars...let's go to Reykjavik, Mommy." BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Jul 27, 2015 19:13
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Every new segment I watch I'm guaranteed to learn some way in which America is completely hosed up that I didn't know before. Also I totally remember that goddam Muppet Babies clip. We go on weekly adventures fueled by the power of our imagination! Oh, and here's a vision of your drug-riddled carcass, kid. Gnome de plume fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jul 28, 2015 |
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Jul 28, 2015 01:10
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SlothfulCobra posted:I swear to god, everything Reagan ever did was terrible. Look, the man was a reprehensible human being who managed to drive the country into a pit of spite and despair, but there's nothing wrong with keeping a bowl of jelly beans around at all times.
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Jul 28, 2015 01:46
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SlothfulCobra posted:I swear to god, everything Reagan ever did was terrible. And yet we still had a much, much higher capital gains tax rate under him then we do now. Even with his moronic trickle down ideas the top 1% tax rates were still way loving higher then they are now.
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Jul 28, 2015 02:38
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Any exposure is good exposure I suppose but who doesn't already know about this? Too loving many. Show this clip to everyone you know. This is one of the greatest injustices we see from our "Justice System" today. A part of me insists it's due to our godawful for-profit, crammed and monetized prisons.
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Jul 28, 2015 03:49
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pentyne posted:And yet we still had a much, much higher capital gains tax rate under him then we do now. Even with his moronic trickle down ideas the top 1% tax rates were still way loving higher then they are now. Reagan would catastrophically fail any kind of ideological purity test current republicans would give, that is both hilarious and terrifying. And people would do well to take notice of that fact.
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Jul 28, 2015 03:55
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Gnome de plume posted:Also I totally remember that goddam Muppet Babies clip. We go on weekly adventures fueled by the power of our imagination! Oh, and here's a vision of your drug-riddled carcass, kid. Is that an actual Muppet Babies episode or is it a weird PSA/advertising campaign that the Muppet Babies appeared in?
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Jul 28, 2015 04:09
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xcore posted:Is that an actual Muppet Babies episode or is it a weird PSA/advertising campaign that the Muppet Babies appeared in? It was a special called Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue and it featured further intervention cameos by Alf and Papa Smurf and Winnie the Pooh. It was a formative moment of my childhood. I think that's when I first understood what pandering was.
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Jul 28, 2015 04:19
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xcore posted:Is that an actual Muppet Babies episode or is it a weird PSA/advertising campaign that the Muppet Babies appeared in? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzKx92QD8Hk Here's the whole thing.
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Jul 28, 2015 04:21
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SlothfulCobra posted:Please. Texas only wishes that they could exile one person a year like Athens did. I remember reading articles about some parts of... Florida, I think? where registered sex offenders are basically legally required to live under a bridge because everywhere else is an exclusion zone for them. There was also some other deep South state where the state constitution forbids exiling someone from the state, so they instead sentence some people to be banned from every county except for the poorest and least hospitable county in the state. IRQ posted:Reagan would catastrophically fail any kind of ideological purity test current republicans would give, that is both hilarious and terrifying. And people would do well to take notice of that fact. Yeah, I think Reagan was once quoted as saying it's totally loving absurd to seek tax cuts for carried interest.
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Jul 28, 2015 04:50
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I remember reading articles about some parts of... Florida, I think? where registered sex offenders are basically legally required to live under a bridge because everywhere else is an exclusion zone for them. It was an issue in Miami, where the only place a sex offender could legally be in Miami Dade county was under the Julia Tuttle causeway, but that problem was remedied years ago.
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Jul 28, 2015 06:56
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It seems like basically anything based on "tough on crime" rhetoric has been proven to just make things worse, yet if you even think about trying to fix some of it you get nutjobs accusing you of being soft on crime and crazy attack ads like the ones from the elected judges segment a while ago. It does seem like there's been at least some turnaround on mandatory minimums, but the fact that the new laws haven't been applied retroactively is pretty lovely. Hell if anything that should be a universal aspect of the justice system; if the sentencing laws change, people sentenced under the old laws should at least be granted a hearing with a judge. It makes absolutely no sense that people continue to serve full sentences for crimes that don't carry those sentences anymore.
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Jul 28, 2015 09:30
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Personally experiencing what it's like to have so little food when I was growing up, the food waste segment had a great impact on me. I always feel guilty when I cannot finish my meal when eating at a restaurant because the serving size is more than I can handle. At home, I just use the expiry date as guide. It's also kinda saddening that that segment did not generate a lot of discussion here unlike that gamergate thing or that lady who does not agree with parental benefits. I don't believe that food waste is less of an issue as any other topics the show has talked about.
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Jul 28, 2015 10:26
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The Cheshire Cat posted:It seems like basically anything based on "tough on crime" rhetoric has been proven to just make things worse, yet if you even think about trying to fix some of it you get nutjobs accusing you of being soft on crime and crazy attack ads like the ones from the elected judges segment a while ago. For a while they went after children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YidALyBwat0
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The Cheshire Cat posted:It seems like basically anything based on "tough on crime" rhetoric has been proven to just make things worse,  Above: How mandatory minimums "just makes things worse."
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