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OSad posted:I just converted the 406mm in the game's tooltip to inches directly on google. Supposedly 406mm is exactly 15.9843 inches, which is just shy of 16. Yeah, when you're out to the hundredths place, you just round up, but I suppose you are very technically correct  . To be perfectly exact, 16" comes out to 406.4mm, and no one really wants to be bothered with less than 1/2 of one mm. By the same logic the IJN ones technically aren't as well, since they're using 410mm guns. In comparison to its competitors, Bismarck's only mounting 380mm guns. Obviously caliber matters as well, but its guns aren't particularly exceptional in that sense either.
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do the secondary battery modifications have a significant enough effect to make them worthwhile on any battleships at bullying smaller ships, or are there any battleships that innately have accurate secondaries as a gimmick? I managed to ram a destroyer in my Kongo last night and the satisfaction of doing that has led me to want to make a boats career out of going full retard
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yaay posted:do the secondary battery modifications have a significant enough effect to make them worthwhile on any battleships at bullying smaller ships, or are there any battleships that innately have accurate secondaries as a gimmick? I managed to ram a destroyer in my Kongo last night and the satisfaction of doing that has led me to want to make a boats career out of going full retard The Japanese ships with secondaries that can push out to 10km can also reduce a destroyer from full hp to dead in one attempted torpedo run with some above average dice rolls, and I've seen them either citadel or extremely high damage roll cruisers
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Jul 23, 2015 23:30
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Kawachi. Why. Kawachi why can you not hit boats when I fire your guns?
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Jul 23, 2015 23:31
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Magni posted:Holy poo poo, my heart is still pounding from this match. Daily, but still, holy poo poo was that an adrenaline rush towards the end. That's one of the highest cruiser base xp games I've ever seen. Good job. 
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yaay posted:do the secondary battery modifications have a significant enough effect to make them worthwhile on any battleships at bullying smaller ships, or are there any battleships that innately have accurate secondaries as a gimmick? I managed to ram a destroyer in my Kongo last night and the satisfaction of doing that has led me to want to make a boats career out of going full retard The IJN line in general has better secondaries than the american BBs. Outstanding ones are the Nagato, Izumo and Yamato. Nagato with the upgrade and a captain has 7km range on her secondary battery and a load of guns firing about 45° off her forward axis to both sides while Izumo and Yamato can push theirs up to almost 10km - Yamato has a secondary broadside of 12x5in and 6x6in that can do pretty nasty things to cruisers and destroyers.
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NTRabbit posted:The Japanese ships with secondaries that can push out to 10km can also reduce a destroyer from full hp to dead in one attempted torpedo run with some above average dice rolls, and I've seen them either citadel or extremely high damage roll cruisers Magni posted:The IJN line in general has better secondaries than the american BBs. Outstanding ones are the Nagato, Izumo and Yamato. Nagato with the upgrade and a captain has 7km range on her secondary battery and a load of guns firing about 45° off her forward axis to both sides while Izumo and Yamato can push theirs up to almost 10km - Yamato has a secondary broadside of 12x5in and 6x6in that can do pretty nasty things to cruisers and destroyers. 
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Jul 24, 2015 00:00
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I got in secondary range of a Yamato in my Atago yesterday. It was just a wall of shells heading my way, then it fired its main battery 
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Jul 24, 2015 00:14
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Switching between HE and AP on my IJN cruisers always got me accidentally reloading 
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Jul 24, 2015 00:20
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I do not understand how two barrels of a double-linked turret can fire and deviate so heavily in where each individual shell lands. Kawachi why.
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Jul 24, 2015 01:01
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cheese posted:Switching between HE and AP on my IJN cruisers always got me accidentally reloading
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Jul 24, 2015 01:01
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Aesis posted:Never not double tap. If you tap the other shell type just once, it will not reload them instantly. Instead your next shot will be automatically treated as a double-tap followed by all guns reloading the new shell type.
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Jul 24, 2015 01:06
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Night10194 posted:I do not understand how two barrels of a double-linked turret can fire and deviate so heavily in where each individual shell lands. Kawachi why. Not that I think WG coded this because of  but the dispersion would be caused by differences in individual guns, projectiles, powder ignition sequences, and the recoil caused that fraction of a second between the guns firing perhaps? God only knows what crazy formula they used that does not involve the phone number of Serb's favorite hooker, one of the devs driver license number and the price of a cheap bottle of vodka.
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Jul 24, 2015 01:33
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Remember, always turn into torps. Always. 250 matches in and I still brain fart and try to turn away. Eat 3/4 and die instead of just eating 1 and fighting longer.
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Jul 24, 2015 01:34
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Really starting to get the hang of carriers. Had a couple of really good games in my Independence recently. Feels good to lay in a full six torp spread into the side of a battleship. So far most only survive 5 hits. Skycancer for life.
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Jul 24, 2015 02:12
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IJN DDs are fun and alll, but I tend to do wayyyy better when I play sorta cautious in my USN DD. Like, I can normally kill 1-2 enemy DD and then sometimes a CV or BB or two.
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Jul 24, 2015 02:20
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I hate Fault Line so much. That lovely map encourages the worst kind of play with people hanging back trying to play sniper for fear of getting focused or torpedoed.
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Jul 24, 2015 02:38
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Had a game earlier today where I ate the entire spread of Torps dropped from a Langely. BEFORE they could arm 
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OSad posted:I seem to have made someone very mad by making use of the mythical "border cheat". I do this like, once in a never, but this match was exceptional since I loaded in late and was pressured into the wall by a bunch of enemy BB's. Even if the wheraboos threw a bitchfit, wg has stated no battleship would have torpedos. Otherwise the new york/texas would have a compliment of torpedos, which would be awesome and we can't have that.
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Elmnt80 posted:Even if the wheraboos threw a bitchfit, wg has stated no battleship would have torpedos. Otherwise the new york/texas would have a compliment of torpedos, which would be awesome and we can't have that. Honestly, it'd probably be easier to come up with a list of battleships in the game that DIDN'T have torpedoes mounted on them at one point. Hell, pre-refit the Nagato had torpedo tubes on it, and that's all the way up at Tier 7.
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Jul 24, 2015 02:52
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Nagato with torpedo tubes would be the most nightmarish thing ever given how that ship is already the most  thing in the game when it comes to close-up brawling.
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Jul 24, 2015 03:33
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I have finally finished the Kawachi. Please tell me the Myogi is better.
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Jul 24, 2015 03:41
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Night10194 posted:I have finally finished the Kawachi. Please tell me the Myogi is better. Ummm...
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Jul 24, 2015 03:43
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Woodchip posted:Ummm... Please no. Lie to me if you must.
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Jul 24, 2015 03:46
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Fully upgraded Myogi can be kinda fun given that it's a lot faster than the Kawachi and has much longer range. Also, while you have only 6 guns, they're 14-inchers with very god pen and damage for T4. Kawachi and Myogi are overall mediocre in seperate ways, but both can be made to work out well enough. And then you get the Kongo and everything's right with the world.
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Night10194 posted:Please no. Lie to me if you must. The Myogi has a good chance of seeing a significant amount of carriers and doesn't get any AA until the 3rd hull.
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Night10194 posted:Please no. Lie to me if you must. It is by far the best ship in the entire IJN line.. you will be basking in the glory of your battles as you decimate ships one after another.
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demonR6 posted:It is by far the best ship in the entire IJN line.. you will be basking in the glory of your battles as you decimate ships one after another. Now, now, let's not go overboard. Even it cannot compare to the glory and awe-inspiring power of the Mutsuki and Furutaka. Though I can hardly fault it for failing to reach those inspiring heights.
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Myogi, first ship to get a conning tower in its superstructure. First is best so Myogi is bestest.
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I know this is trivial to most of you guys, but I managed 9 citadel hits in my Tenryu earlier. I'll keep chasing that high, AP is finally clicking with me.
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Magni posted:Holy poo poo, my heart is still pounding from this match. Daily, but still, holy poo poo was that an adrenaline rush towards the end. Hah, I had a fairly badass game in my Myoko as well.  Replay Link It started as me doing a suicide run on the enemy carrier that I somehow survived, and then snowballed from there as my pubbies tried to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Is there a short list of ships that are considered really good that I should be aiming for? I just unlocked my first tier 4, and have more or less enjoyed the ships I've gotten so far, except maybe the T1 stuff.
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counterfeitsaint posted:Is there a short list of ships that are considered really good that I should be aiming for? I just unlocked my first tier 4, and have more or less enjoyed the ships I've gotten so far, except maybe the T1 stuff. St Louis, Omaha, Isokaze, Clemson and Kuma are some of my favorite ships so far.
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I've noticed a lot of pubby DD captains don't actually know their torps have limited range.
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The fire mod and skills are definitely multiplicative, rather than subtractive. Assuming WG hasn't hosed up the coding somewhere, of course. Just got set on fire twice in two volleys by a destroyer(Minekaze, specifically), which would be impossible if it was subtractive. Incidentally, the fires were still complete bullshit regardless, since I didn't get hit with either full volley and each shot should have had a <10% chance of setting me on fire, but some days the RNG just says "gently caress you."
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I just ran into an Atlanta in my Wyoming.  That thing seemed like it was firing a machine gun from its batteries. Thankfully, he couldn't aim worth poo poo and he still had a citadel.
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Jul 24, 2015 06:17
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Night10194 posted:I just ran into an Atlanta in my Wyoming.
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Both ships have under 155m guns so have a short range stock but for example my cleveland has a range of 17.5km with the 20% increase of range rank 4 captain skill. I also find the high ark pretty helpful as I can land 10 plus shots from a volley on a flat wide battleship.
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I still don't understand what the Atlanta is good for. The guns are sub-par, the torpedoes have bad range, (I think) it's slower than the average cruiser, it has poor armor, it can't shoot very far and the shots take forever to get somewhere, and if they do find their mark by the time the next year comes around, if it's anything more heavily armored than a destroyer, even doing damage is going to be difficult I think. Doesn't seem like a very excelling ship for 41 dollars. The rate-of-fire is nice, but is it worth nearly a full Ulysses?
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OSad posted:I still don't understand what the Atlanta is good for. The guns are sub-par, the torpedoes have bad range, (I think) it's slower than the average cruiser, it has poor armor, it can't shoot very far and the shots take forever to get somewhere, and if they do find their mark by the time the next year comes around, if it's anything more heavily armored than a destroyer, even doing damage is going to be difficult I think. It was still a bit of a surprise to see 'Oh, hey, barrage coming in. And. Uh. Another. And another. And another. And another. And...JESUS CHRIST GIVE IT A REST.'
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