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SergZpartan posted:So after tanking for far too many PuGs I've come to the conclusion that.... drg owns, it also has the absolute tightest rotation that is also dependent on positionals that you dont even know until they proc with a super narrow window to actually get them off if you want to launch of a Geirskogul at the end of your 1,2,3 finisher without losing the BOD effect before you can refresh it. Its going to take a lot of people a while to figure out how to do that while not standing in the stuff, but anyone who played drg ok before and can competently play ninja as well should adapt pretty quick. Its not suprising that pubs are having an awful time with it, the first boss of fractal is a great practice arena for it though. FFXIV needs like a boss danger room where you can practice rotations against something that actually requires movement and reaction.
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Forward_Bee posted:Should I take up Weaving? Despite the nay-saying I had a good experience taking crafting in 2.0 up to the point where I could HQ 2-star items without issues and never bothered to aim for 3/4-star stuff, and was perfectly happy being able to make my own food, potions, spiritbond gear, and repairs. And the occasional other item. If you dislike the red scrip system, you can stop short of it and still be able to make all of the currently-relevant food, potions, and DoW/M gear. It seems the -only- current point of getting involved in red scrips is to more easily craft 2-star stuff, which seems to be (almost) exclusively oriented towards crafters and gatherers unless I am missing something key.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:18
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I'm gonna ask this again and maybe somebody knows now: How the gently caress am I supposed to tell whether to use Precision or Powerful hookset? A lot of the times that information is not listed on the terrible Fishing website, and there is seemingly no way to tell in game.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:24
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Dragoon owns and straight up beasting at the moment. Avoiding poo poo while continuing to DPS isn't hard especially since you've got 3 movement skills. Take resin bombs on A1S. Elusive jump is up for almost every one to get back to the oppressor to continue stabbing. People don't use that skill enough.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:24
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Poultron posted:I'm gonna ask this again and maybe somebody knows now: How the gently caress am I supposed to tell whether to use Precision or Powerful hookset? A lot of the times that information is not listed on the terrible Fishing website, and there is seemingly no way to tell in game. All I've heard is to use Precision Hookset on a normal/weak pull and Powerful Hookset on a strong pull. I haven't fished long enough to be able to distinguish them very well.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:25
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Mr. Nice! posted:Dragoon owns and straight up beasting at the moment. Avoiding poo poo while continuing to DPS isn't hard especially since you've got 3 movement skills. Take resin bombs on A1S. Elusive jump is up for almost every one to get back to the oppressor to continue stabbing. People don't use that skill enough. It's also great for racing the Bard to see who can smash themselves into the deathwalls in T13 first
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Jul 24, 2015 16:27
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Rei_ posted:It's also great for racing the Bard to see who can smash themselves into the deathwalls in T13 first Now we have whalex.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:29
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When I realized I need 350 blue scrip to finish my WVR 60 quest I think I died inside a bit. I guess it's time to level CUL for easy turn-ins?
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Jul 24, 2015 16:34
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Magil Zeal posted:All I've heard is to use Precision Hookset on a normal/weak pull and Powerful Hookset on a strong pull. I haven't fished long enough to be able to distinguish them very well. I think it's Precision for weak only, and Powerful for normal/strong. Weak and normal can be a little tricky to distinguish from each other unless you're using a controller (vibration difference is much clearer). Strong is goddamn obvious.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:34
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Scrubs, I've been elusive jump-ing off platforms since titan
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Jul 24, 2015 16:38
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Vil posted:I think it's Precision for weak only, and Powerful for normal/strong. Weak and normal can be a little tricky to distinguish from each other unless you're using a controller (vibration difference is much clearer). Strong is goddamn obvious. Yeah. Listening carefully to the sound effect helps, but a controller with vibration on is the easiest way. One tug/sound - Precision. Two tugs/sounds or the strong animation - Powerful.
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I am leveling MCH on the side currently because I find the class fun, even if it is not the best DPS. However, at least in the 30s, I have been having the problem of running out of TP in long fights. Am I doing something wrong? I refresh hot shot and lead shot when appropriate, and use rapid fire when it is up. My highest level job is WAR, where if you are running out of TP then you are doing something very wrong, so I don't know if this is normal for physical DPS classes.
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Unlucky7 posted:I am leveling MCH on the side currently because I find the class fun, even if it is not the best DPS. However, at least in the 30s, I have been having the problem of running out of TP in long fights. Am I doing something wrong? I refresh hot shot and lead shot when appropriate, and use rapid fire when it is up. quick reload also invigorate
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kharaa posted:quick reload also invigorate Looks like I need to level DRG for a bit then 
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Rei_ posted:I think DRG is still locked in that eternal battle with monk for who has to tunnel hard enough on rotations trying to beat the other one while dying to mechanics What's odd for me is this is how I feel about PLD vs WAR and especially DRK Like I want to level WAR up but then I remembered how hard it was for me to pay enough attention to keep up Storm's Eye and Storm's Path and Fracture oh and not die to everything because you didn't have IB up and ready at the right time, and then I realized with Fell Cleave tempting away my stacks that's just gonna get even worse Like I can do MNK pretty drat well without tunnel visioning myself--maybe not AS static level, quite, but close--but tanking as WAR or DRK just takes a lot out of me, and that's without HW abilities in WAR's case 
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Poultron posted:I'm gonna ask this again and maybe somebody knows now: How the gently caress am I supposed to tell whether to use Precision or Powerful hookset? A lot of the times that information is not listed on the terrible Fishing website, and there is seemingly no way to tell in game. Hear... Feel... See...
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Jul 24, 2015 17:18
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well, never use fracture ever for starters. It kills gains
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Jul 24, 2015 17:31
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Storms Eye/Storms Path is easy because honestly you're never doing all three plus an enmity combo at the same time. If you're OT you can afford to cycle both, or pick one and Butchers Block for a bit of extra damage. If you're MT you're picking one and cycling it with Butchers Block. Like the WAR rotation really has not changed in 3.0 and that's a good thing, it's just that your opener has changed and what you can do with your stacks once you have them has changed. Then you get into things like optimizing a rotation for things like 3xFell Cleave (which isnt really that hard to do on every single berserk once you realize the trick). WAR's in a real good place, and it's probably the most satisfying job in the game right now (to me, personally).
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Jul 24, 2015 17:32
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I hate to ask, but how do you do 3xFell Cleave? I only know how to do it twice consecutively.
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Jul 24, 2015 17:42
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do two full combos, then get to heavy swing and then inner release/berserk, fell cleave, raw int (and/or vengeance depending on skillspeed) then finish your combo, another combo, fell cleave, infuriate, fell cleave. If your skillspeed is high enough and you used both raw int and vengeance you have room for another GCD before you hit pacify, drop a fracture so you still have damage ticking while pacified. Normally you'll pacify right as the last fell cleave goes off, however. Rei_ fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Unlucky7 posted:I hate to ask, but how do you do 3xFell Cleave? I only know how to do it twice consecutively. Pre-built stacks + infuriate + stacks built during the beserk buff. Depending on your skill speed you'll have to pop at least one wrath giving CD (Veng/Raw Intuition).
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It's like, the best use for Raw Intuition, honestly
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Basically you take advantage of Vengeance and Raw Intuition also giving +1 stack, as well as prepping a combo so you only need to use one Heavy Swing during Berserk. Obviously you don't do this if you're gonna need them for actual mitigation purposes. For example, here's one option, probably not optimized as well as it could be. Prep: Get things off cooldown, build up 3-5 stacks of Abandon, get Maim and Storm's Eye up, and for best results try to get the back to back Fell Cleaves in during a Trick Attack and/or boss vulnerability like Ravana's liberation charge-up. 1. Heavy Swing 1.5. Internal Release 2. Maim/Skull Sunder (4-5 stacks) 2.5. Berserk (5 stacks) 3. Fell Cleave #1 3.5. Infuriate (5 stacks) 4. Fell Cleave #2 4.5. Brutal Swing 5. Storm's Eye/Storm's Path/Butcher's Block (1 stack) 5.5. Mercy Stroke (if applicable) 6. Fracture 6.5. Vengeance (2 stacks) 7. Heavy Swing 7.5. Raw Inutition (3 stacks) 8. Maim/Skull Sunder (4 stacks) 9. Storm's Eye/Storm's Path/Butcher's Block (5 stacks) 10. Fell Cleave #3 That's for an 8-GCD Berserk. If you can reliably 9-GCD it, then move the Berserk back a step so it gets a Maim/Skull Sunder (rather than the Heavy Swing that would otherwise follow Fell Cleave #3). If you can't reliably 9-GCD it, then don't, because it's better to get a berserked Fell Cleave than a berserked Maim/Skull Sunder. Alternatively, 9-GCD lets you do the triple Fell Cleave + Fracture, without needing Vengeance to be up. Vil fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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So WHM healing is super straighforward where I am (level 43) and it seems like there aren't a ton more abilities left for me to unlock, does it stay basically the same in end game? Not that I mind really, but it seems like it's basically all about using cure in a mana efficient way and nothing else Also, should I level Arcanist to 30 or something the same way you would a subjob in FFXI or is leaving it at 15 until I hit cap not really a problem
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WHM has heals that are incredibly useful situationally (Cure 3), but at 50 is pretty straightforward. It opens up a great deal from 50-60. You may want Eye for an Eye from Arcanist 34, but it's not nearly as essentially as say, Swiftcast, because you'll likely be with a Scholar, Black Mage or Summoner who can throw it out as well.
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nuru posted:WHM has heals that are incredibly useful situationally (Cure 3), but at 50 is pretty straightforward. It opens up a great deal from 50-60. Cool, I'll focus on hitting cap and then worry about arcanist. Also just for confirmation, I've been putting all my attribute points into mind, that's the right thing to do right
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Jul 24, 2015 18:29
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Yes.
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See maybe someone told me this before and I never noticed or I just never learned it, butRei_ posted:Storms Eye/Storms Path is easy because honestly you're never doing all three plus an enmity combo at the same time. that's probably the #1 thing I wish I'd known in ARR at 50. I spent so much time cycling all three combos and getting frustrated 'cos they had so much downtime 'cos I was bad 
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Hi everyone, my name is Farg and I've mained warrior since launch and I just found out vengeance gives stacks of wrath
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Farg posted:well, never use fracture ever for starters. It kills gains Actually now I'm beginning to wonder if this is unironically true. I mean yes Fracture is huge potency per GCD taken on its own (isn't it like 400?  ), and I guess it should be used during cooldowns if you can, but it doesn't contribute to building stacks, so umMaster Warriors please help 
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Jul 24, 2015 19:06
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Fell Cleave has 500 potency for 5 stacks, so each stack is technically 100 potency. Fracture is 300 overall, always fracture.
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welp, if roulette frontlines throws you into a level 50 frontline and you swap to a sub 60 dps to balance out your 4 healer team, you don't get your esoterics/law.  otoh, mch pvp owns as hard as I expected and I REALLY need to get it to 60. Smart wildfire usage is guaranteed healer/dps frags or node kills.
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Eight-Six posted:Fell Cleave has 500 potency for 5 stacks, so each stack is technically 100 potency. Fracture is 300 overall, always fracture. You're not replacing a 0 potency attack with Fracture, though - you're replacing an attack worth 2/3 a Wrath stack (66.7 potency) worth between 197 (Storm's Eye) and 210 (Butcher's Block) potency. The answer is still yes (it's about 40 potency gained), but it's not as large as you're suggesting.
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[13:20](Machuca Papa) Lets pound the furry bastards
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Niton posted:You're not replacing a 0 potency attack with Fracture, though - you're replacing an attack worth 2/3 a Wrath stack (66.7 potency) worth between 197 (Storm's Eye) and 210 (Butcher's Block) potency. The answer is still yes (it's about 40 potency gained), but it's not as large as you're suggesting. When arguing that a main job WAR should use fracture, I decided to omit some details because it was Good Enough
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Jul 24, 2015 19:35
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SirPhoebos posted:How do I get the fat burd? Upgrade to the ARR Collectors Edition
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Alternatively, rack up 3,000 commendations and you get a fat burd with a miter.
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Rei_ posted:It's like, the best use for Raw Intuition, honestly While true, it's very satisfying to use on the bosses that do a flurry of physical attacks on you Also I generally: Start: get at least four stacks, and make sure maim and storm's eye is up, heavy swing Burst hard: berserk/internal release, cleave, infuriate, cleave Build third cleave: pop vengence and raw intuition over the next couple steps of maim, storm's eye, heavy swing, skull sunder, Finish: fell cleave, fracture or butcher's block depending on how dead the target is
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Rei_ posted:Storms Eye/Storms Path is easy because honestly you're never doing all three plus an enmity combo at the same time. If you're OT you can afford to cycle both, or pick one and Butchers Block for a bit of extra damage. If you're MT you're picking one and cycling it with Butchers Block. Like the WAR rotation really has not changed in 3.0 and that's a good thing, it's just that your opener has changed and what you can do with your stacks once you have them has changed. Then you get into things like optimizing a rotation for things like 3xFell Cleave (which isnt really that hard to do on every single berserk once you realize the trick). WAR's in a real good place, and it's probably the most satisfying job in the game right now (to me, personally). To expand on this: Threat combo: (HT, SS, BB) 630 Potency, 2390 Enmity. Path combo: (HT, Maim, SP) 590 Potency, 590 Enmity. Increases your damage (and threat) by 20%. Heals you for a small amount. Debuffs all damage dealt by the target by 10%. (All damage, not just physical.) Eye combo: (HT, Maim, SE) 610 Potency, 610 Enmity. Increases your damage (and threat) by 20%. Increases slashing damage taken by the target. Pick which combos you use based on what needs to be done. If there's a Ninja in the party, well, you can completely forget about using Eye at all, since it is more imperative that they get it up with their first combo rather than wait for you. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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