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There's plenty of negativity in r/warhammer, but I think what you're seeing is "evaporative cooling of group beliefs." A group pisses a bunch of people off, pissed off people leave and go elsewhere, everything seems cheery in the group because the nay sayers are gone. I was surprised at the # of people posting happy pictures of their pro-painted sigmarines on r/warhammer.
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Leperflesh posted:I'm not convinced AoS is going to fail, actually. Just a reminder: terrible, terrible games - like Monopoly - can and do make bajillions of dollars. I think it's likely AoS will fail, but I won't be shocked if it succeeds. How many monopoly sets can you buy for the same price of a single AoS starter?
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Jul 27, 2015 03:57
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All the discussion about the "Garden of Morr" got me to have a look at it. I have no idea how I missed this terrain but it's beautiful.. Also nice is I found an Australian shop with it in stock willing to sell it to me for 50 Australian Funnymoneys. Now my warmachine pistol wraiths have something thematically appropriate to hide behind.
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Jul 27, 2015 03:58
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Leperflesh posted:I'm not convinced AoS is going to fail, actually. Just a reminder: terrible, terrible games - like Monopoly - can and do make bajillions of dollars. I think it's likely AoS will fail, but I won't be shocked if it succeeds. WARHAMMER AOS: The Monopoly of Fantasy Battles. Anyway, I got linked here and it's been an entertaining read, condolences on your game guys. 
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Jul 27, 2015 04:00
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Business Gorillas posted:How many monopoly sets can you buy for the same price of a single AoS starter? About 2 and a half if it's brand new and something like "Nintendo Monopoly" or something. Also Monopoly really is targeted at kids and parents to teach the very basics of capitalism and the real estate industry. I am not sure what Age of Sigmar can teach anyone.
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Jul 27, 2015 05:25
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Shadoer posted:I am not sure what Age of Sigmar can teach anyone. How to waste money?
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Jul 27, 2015 05:28
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Shadoer posted:About 2 and a half if it's brand new and something like "Nintendo Monopoly" or something. Age of Sigmar teaches children about capitalism and why it must be destroyed 
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Jul 27, 2015 05:44
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Business Gorillas posted:Age of Sigmar teaches children about capitalism and why it must be destroyed Age of sigmar teaches that those that purport to be the "good guys" are not actually your friends and may in fact be exploiting you and your biases for their own ends.
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Jul 27, 2015 05:49
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If this thread is anything to go by, Age of Sigmar teaches you that there are other cool miniatures wargames out there that you should really give a chance.
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Jul 27, 2015 06:03
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Shadoer posted:About 2 and a half if it's brand new and something like "Nintendo Monopoly" or something. Monopoly actually just teaches kids that whether or not you make money or lose money is entirely random, based on who was lucky enough to land on the right spots during the first fifteen minutes; that going to jail is a great way to collect rent while avoiding paying rent; that exploiting your friends with uneven trades of property so you can get the green block is the key to victory; and that if you are the first player eliminated, you better have something to occupy yourself, by yourself, while the other players spend another hour or more finishing the game without you. In short, it's a terrible "game" that has inexplicably endured for something like 80 years, demonstrating that on a very wide scale, average americans have terrible taste in family boardgames and/or are basically stupid and easily entertained. This is good news for GW's shareholders.
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Jul 27, 2015 06:37
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Leperflesh posted:I'm not convinced AoS is going to fail, actually. Just a reminder: terrible, terrible games - like Monopoly - can and do make bajillions of dollars. I think it's likely AoS will fail, but I won't be shocked if it succeeds. I would bet that an overwhelming majority of people would consider Monopoly a fine game and look at you blankly when you started talking about game design. People who take board games seriously are a tiny part of the already small group that plays board games at all. I believe AoS will fail because other then diehard hams, it doesn't have any appeal to random nerds. It doesn't really have familiar fantasy tropes and names, so isn't likely to attract a second glance, at least not more then the other skirmish games out there.
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Jul 27, 2015 06:44
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Why is monopoly terrible?
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Jul 27, 2015 06:48
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Oasx posted:Why is monopoly terrible? I could rant about it but tons of other people already have. Here's a reasonably good one: https://danq.me/2013/04/03/monopoly/
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Jul 27, 2015 07:16
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Oasx posted:Why is monopoly terrible? People put
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Jul 27, 2015 07:17
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Scowny posted:No forum will ever be as great as EoW. Ogre dicks for everyone. holy poo poo you're still alive
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Jul 27, 2015 07:19
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Leperflesh posted:Monopoly actually just teaches kids that whether or not you make money or lose money is entirely random, based on who was lucky enough to land on the right spots during the first fifteen minutes; that going to jail is a great way to collect rent while avoiding paying rent; that exploiting your friends with uneven trades of property so you can get the green block is the key to victory; and that if you are the first player eliminated, you better have something to occupy yourself, by yourself, while the other players spend another hour or more finishing the game without you. Yeah like he said it teaches kids about capitalism
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Jul 27, 2015 07:32
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Congrats thread, you got called out on garagehammer
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Jul 27, 2015 07:52
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drgnvale posted:Congrats thread, you got called out on garagehammer Oh? What did they say? Edit: Ah about moderation and how Age of Sigmar has really polarized things. Shadoer fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Jul 27, 2015 07:57
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Shadoer posted:Oh? What did they say? some of us might want a better explanation 
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Jul 27, 2015 08:06
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Business Gorillas posted:some of us might want a better explanation It's about how "Not a Viking" mentioned he left the Garagehammer facebook page because of how hard he got shat on for saying he didn't like Age of Sigmar and they are shocked at how polarized things are and that they are having to moderate their facebook page. That and how some people either love Age of Sigmar or hate it, nothing in between and understanding that while they are giving Age of Sigmar a chance they are acknowledging that a bunch of people have just watched their game died and are joining other games. Edit: That and that they will be expanding the show to cover other games.
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Jul 27, 2015 08:11
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Business Gorillas posted:some of us might want a better explanation They hadn't heard of SA, guy quoted some posts talking about how sad it was to see how disappointed they seemed in the previous episode, quoted some posts about how hostile the face lol group had gotten, then saying that the podcast won't end. I'm always amused when people talk about SA for the first time. At least he didn't dig deeper since the host doesn't seem like the type to appreciate older SA humor.
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Jul 27, 2015 08:12
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adamantium|wang posted:holy poo poo you're still alive
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Jul 27, 2015 08:18
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Scowny posted:No forum will ever be as great as EoW. Ogre dicks for everyone. I feel that, through screens etc, we at least have continuity with the wall of jiggling dickogres, at least in spirit.
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Jul 27, 2015 08:21
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Leperflesh posted:Monopoly actually just teaches kids that whether or not you make money or lose money is entirely random, based on who was lucky enough to land on the right spots during the first fifteen minutes; that going to jail is a great way to collect rent while avoiding paying rent; that exploiting your friends with uneven trades of property so you can get the green block is the key to victory; and that if you are the first player eliminated, you better have something to occupy yourself, by yourself, while the other players spend another hour or more finishing the game without you. Yeah my family never was very fond of it, we preferred scattagories, Kid Pictionary, and Life.
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Jul 27, 2015 08:41
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drgnvale posted:They hadn't heard of SA, guy quoted some posts talking about how sad it was to see how disappointed they seemed in the previous episode, quoted some posts about how hostile the face lol group had gotten, then saying that the podcast won't end. Funny coincidence, I actually emailed David Witek after they recorded the episode (but before it aired) to quote another poster about why David is such a great community personality. Also, the alpha for SwedishHammer is out. Fixes a lot of things like broken rules, magic spells, items and point costs. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BdUboMHSwUrb4NHIqP4OihW7OL03V91gWrF79Ha0_2I/pub#h.q1wzzc91aeu VVV Its all we've been talking about for dozens of pages. I don't think they are going to back pedal (if that is what "new coke situation" means), GW are "all in" with AoS. Not a viking fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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not sure if this has already been mentioned in the thread- i just found out that they're killing Warhammer Fantasy- do you think this could end up being a "new coke" type situation if it flops hard enough?
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Jul 27, 2015 09:12
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bencreateddisco posted:not sure if this has already been mentioned in the thread- i just found out that they're killing Warhammer Fantasy- do you think this could end up being a "new coke" type situation if it flops hard enough? Not a chance, GW is all in on AoS. If it flops it'll likely just be deemed that "people don't want to play fantasy games any more" and they'll just give 40k the Sigmar treatment instead.
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Jul 27, 2015 10:00
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Not a chance, GW is all in on AoS. If it flops it'll likely just be deemed that "people don't want to play fantasy games any more" and they'll just give 40k the Sigmar treatment instead. Or that fantasy will finally get buried and 40k will be the sole line. And then morons will go "But you see fantasy, the world's most-played fantasy battles game, didn't sell as much as their other products..."
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spectralent posted:Or that fantasy will finally get buried and 40k will be the sole line. All the while scratching their heads as to why people seem to be buying less and less GW stuff, in favor of some game called Infinity Kings of Bolt Action Warmachine X-Wing. 
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Sydney Bottocks posted:All the while scratching their heads as to why people seem to be buying less and less GW stuff, in favor of some game called Infinity Kings of Bolt Action Warmachine X-Wing. Nah, they'll ignore those and accuse people who stopped buying AoS stuff of being poorly paid. This trend is seriously gross, by the way.
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Jul 27, 2015 10:10
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"Those losers don't deserve our product!!" *Increases prices by ten per cent*
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Jul 27, 2015 10:12
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Jiggling dick ogres and huge human being were the best parts of EOW. and that 40k comic we made Phoon posted:Yeah like he said it teaches kids about capitalism 
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Jul 27, 2015 10:46
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The free parking house rule is interesting as people use it because the feel the game as written is too harsh - it becomes the equivalent of welfare/redistribution/social security, but all it usually does is drag the game on for longer without changing the outcome. Monopoly is a very good satire.
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spectralent posted:Or that fantasy will finally get buried and 40k will be the sole line. In a way they may have planned for that. If the rumors of Horus Heresy Plastics from GW are true, it will mean there will be Warhammer 40k and 30k, making having Fantasy around a much lower priority.
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Jul 27, 2015 13:44
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AoS is not Warhammer: Monopoly, it's Warhammer: Munchkin. All it's good for is one read to chuckle/roll eyes at the jokes, it drags on too long for something that shallow, and since Munchkin is somehow really popular, 
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Jul 27, 2015 13:45
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Chill la Chill posted:Jiggling dick ogres and huge human being were the best parts of EOW. and that 40k comic we made I often think of cool wargamer and his negative loving attitude.
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Jul 27, 2015 13:45
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I remember there was a subforum besides Slaaneshi Pleasure Palace but I was never cool enough to see the posts in it.
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Pierzak posted:AoS is not Warhammer: Monopoly, it's Warhammer: Munchkin. All it's good for is one read to chuckle/roll eyes at the jokes, it drags on too long for something that shallow, and since Munchkin is somehow really popular, Wow this seems like a surprisingly perfect description. The big difference is that where munchkin is cheap and appeals to a very basic understanding of traditional games (most people play with some deck of cards at some point), AoS has absolutely no appeal to anyone except hobbyists that either don't want it or have better choices. This might be different by the time we have AoS 2e or the new armies have been fleshed out and we get more tactical options. If they bring back equipment management, that alone would go a long way towards adding a competitive nature into the game.
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Shadoer posted:In a way they may have planned for that. If the rumors of Horus Heresy Plastics from GW are true, it will mean there will be Warhammer 40k and 30k, making having Fantasy around a much lower priority. But... but... aren't these literally the same game, in the same genre, set in the same setting, at basically the same time tech wise? Can a company really say those two games are it's portfolio?
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Doctor Borris posted:But... but... aren't these literally the same game, in the same genre, set in the same setting, at basically the same time tech wise? To be fair 30k does look like the platonic ideal of :GW: at the moment, being a game where you can only play space marines and the models are all eleven million dollars each.
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