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Nevermind calling it SF or Frisco, The Five, or I-5..when you've learned to hate Feinstein, that's when you've become a real Californian.
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Space-Bird posted:Nevermind calling it SF or Frisco, The Five, or I-5..when you've learned to hate Feinstein, that's when you've become a real Californian. "Call me Senator." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0CprVYsG0k  e: Oh, whoops its Boxer. They're both equally bad imo.
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Jul 26, 2015 04:19
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Minarchist posted:"Call me Senator." Boxer's problems are in the complete opposite direction, though.
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Jul 26, 2015 04:23
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Minarchist posted:e: Oh, whoops its Boxer. They're both equally bad imo. Nah, Boxer is ok. Feinstein is super terrible. Literally the only reason I can find to vote for Feinstein is the D next to her name. And I can't even safely vote against her in the primaries because of our dumbfuck jungle primary system.
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Jul 26, 2015 06:39
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Minarchist posted:"Call me Senator." I could be wrong, but he was treating her like she was stupid as poo poo. I have no problem with her reminding him that she's his boss. I need to find the whole video, because I remember being proud of her when she did that.
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Jul 26, 2015 07:40
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Minarchist posted:"Call me Senator." No, Boxer is the good senator. Not perfect, but a million times better than feinstein. Also, good on her in that video. Bet than if you watch that video he called everyone else Senator except for the "girls."
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Jul 26, 2015 08:32
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Litany Unheard posted:Nah, Boxer is ok. Feinstein is super terrible. it's really that - look at a list of her R challengers all these years and yer all like "gently caress it" 
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Jul 26, 2015 16:23
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Keyser S0ze posted:it's really that - look at a list of her R challengers all these years and yer all like "gently caress it" I was going to laugh at you because when I lived in Idaho, California was exporting all of their crazy fuckers to us. Then I realized, I live in CA now and I have to be a proper citizen and take responsibility for my situation. Seriously though, for a liberal state, there are a lot of what I consider to be crazy political people. And I'm from loving Idaho. These people are nuts.
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Jul 26, 2015 16:36
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Keyser S0ze posted:it's really that - look at a list of her R challengers all these years and yer all like "gently caress it"
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Jul 26, 2015 16:36
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Leperflesh posted:In 2012, 7.75 million Californians voted for her. California needs new senators.
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Jul 26, 2015 18:53
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:God I hate this state. Well we're going to get Senator Kamala Harris next year. Now we just need Feinstein to keel over. She's 82 years old so it won't be too much longer!
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Litany Unheard posted:Well we're going to get Senator Kamala Harris next year. Now we just need Feinstein to keel over. She's 82 years old so it won't be too much longer! Kamala Harris is gonna be a second Feinstein. Her record supporting prosecutorial misconduct alone should make everyone take notice. Unfortunately, she'll be way better than whatever nutter runs against her.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:20
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Litany Unheard posted:Well we're going to get Senator Kamala Harris next year. Now we just need Feinstein to keel over. She's 82 years old so it won't be too much longer! Too bad that probably means we get Senator Gavin Newsom in Feinstein's stead. Gonna suck to lose that much Democratic seniority in Congress (what with Pelosi almost certainly bowing out within the next few cycles)
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Jul 26, 2015 21:22
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Naw. Newsom wants to be governor. Everything he's done has been aimed at that, beginning from before he ran for SF mayor. http://www.gavinnewsom.com/ After two terms as governor, maybe he'd run for senate, but I think he's honestly much more likely to run for (and lose) president.
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Litany Unheard posted:She's 82 years old so it won't be too much longer!
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Jul 27, 2015 01:25
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I'm still trying to figure out why Carly Fiorina thinks losing two statewide elections qualifies her to be President.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I'm still trying to figure out why Carly Fiorina thinks losing two statewide elections qualifies her to be President. For the same reason being ousted as a failed CEO qualifies her to run for Senate. She's made an entire career out of failing upwards.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I'm still trying to figure out why Carly Fiorina thinks losing two statewide elections qualifies her to be President. Because she's an idiot who feels really entitled to some form of political power because of her money and "success" in past leadership positions. So basically Meg Whitman, but somehow stupider.  Say what you want about Meg Whitman (and boy is there a lot to say) but when she threw all her money into the governorship campaign, it was coming off a previously conservative governor and she had realistic chances of winning. And when she lost, she bowed out and hasn't stuck her dick out into politics since. Meanwhile Fiorina is going to get into politics or bankrupt herself trying, apparently.
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Also worth noting: Fiorina announced her candidacy on May 4th. She released a book on May 5th. Probably a coincidence.
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Leperflesh posted:Naw. Newsom wants to be governor. Everything he's done has been aimed at that, beginning from before he ran for SF mayor. Newsom is most likely a replicant
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etalian posted:Newsom is most likely a replicant Without going into details, I have personal contacts who are close to Newsom's family (mostly his father, a retired judge). He's well-connected to extreme wealth, he's incredibly carefully groomed, he's carefully Democratic, and he has taken some very, very calculated risks that have paid off very well. I don't think he's a replicant. I think he's a archetypical politician. He's very effective as an executive. All of his opinions and positions and speeches are meticulously vetted and calculated. He is especially good at schmoozing with the deep-pocketed donor class that drive all effective political campaigns. I think there's an excellent chance he'll serve two terms as CA governor, and a significant (but still small) chance he'll eventually serve as vice president. I don't think he can win a presidential campaign, but only because he's from San Francisco, and huge swathes of the country reflexively hate politicians from San Francisco, just on the basis that obviously they are way too liberal. Maybe by the time Newsom would be running (I'd guess 2024 at the earliest) that will change, but I dunno.
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Leperflesh posted:he's incredibly carefully groomed, I've seen his hair, this is an understatement.
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Leperflesh posted:Naw. Newsom wants to be governor. Everything he's done has been aimed at that, beginning from before he ran for SF mayor. Of course he wants to be governor, but aside from Feinstein's seat (presumably in 2018), there's not much opportunity what with Harris having just taken literally the only other seat available. Unless he assumes a Republican takes the seat in 2018, but then he's still waiting for 2024 just for a first term. But then again, if he went for an open seat left by Feinstein, he's not have that gubernatorial experience you're absolutely right that he wants.
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Litany Unheard posted:He may be a replicant, but he's our replicant. 
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Oh my god, this is a real thing. https://web.archive.org/web/20060506211308/http://www.thewavemag.com/pagegen.php?pagename=article&articleid=24031 edit: Tom Ammiano: TW: You’ve got a little boy. He shows you his butterfly collection plus the killing jar. What do you do? TA: I’d think this was Blade Runner. That’s my reaction.
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Leperflesh posted:Without going into details, I have personal contacts who are close to Newsom's family (mostly his father, a retired judge). He's well-connected to extreme wealth, he's incredibly carefully groomed, he's carefully Democratic, and he has taken some very, very calculated risks that have paid off very well. I don't think he's a replicant. I think he's a archetypical politician. He's very effective as an executive. All of his opinions and positions and speeches are meticulously vetted and calculated. He is especially good at schmoozing with the deep-pocketed donor class that drive all effective political campaigns. I just don't see Newsom surviving the absolute mind-blowing slam ads regarding his affair that will appear when he runs for major office like governor. SF groups may have given him the kid-gloves but "mayor fucks wife of chief-of-staff, causes divorce" plays well on TV and from glancing over the news articles back then the ethics issues seemed to enter a poorly resolved grey zone which will chum the waters. He may be safe in CA where the Rs can't seem to field anyone who isn't a Lovecraftian ur-horror but I don't think he can go national.
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Leperflesh posted:Without going into details, I have personal contacts who are close to Newsom's family (mostly his father, a retired judge). I'll go into details. A lady who runs a killer hot dog shop on the peninsula told me she went to grad school at USF with Gavin, and insisted in every possible way that he was the most empty-headed human being she had ever met. She said he just didn't seem to understand how to do anything. She said she was genuinely concerned that he was ever in a leadership position. The hot dog and chili cheese fries were top notch. He's just the latest incarnation of the Burton machine, which means he'll be kind of corrupt and questionable like a NY or Chicago politician but that he'll probably do some decent progressive things, like all the rest of them did. Still, he doesn't have the pizazz of a Willie Brown. Speaking of which, what would Willie do if he were mayor today? I mean, besides womanize.
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A story about an old white woman who is disheartened that minorities are moving into her city and now she needs to drive an extra 3 miles to a Pavillions grocery store Without clicking the link, guess the city and the minority.
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FCKGW posted:A story about an old white woman who is disheartened that minorities are moving into her city and now she needs to drive an extra 3 miles to a Pavillions grocery store I should have known there weren't grocery stores in Atherton.
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Leperflesh posted:Without going into details, I have personal contacts who are close to Newsom's family (mostly his father, a retired judge). He's well-connected to extreme wealth, he's incredibly carefully groomed, he's carefully Democratic, and he has taken some very, very calculated risks that have paid off very well. I don't think he's a replicant. I think he's a archetypical politician. He's very effective as an executive. All of his opinions and positions and speeches are meticulously vetted and calculated. He is especially good at schmoozing with the deep-pocketed donor class that drive all effective political campaigns.
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I dunno. Affairs don't seem to do the damage they used to. They definitely damage democrats more than republicans for some reason, but... I think people are just a lot more forgiving of that kind of thing now?
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FCKGW posted:A story about an old white woman who is disheartened that minorities are moving into her city and now she needs to drive an extra 3 miles to a Pavillions grocery store Goddamn, before I moved, I'd have killed to be less than 3 miles from a 99 ranch or sf. Cheap produce, pork with fat in it, interesting ingredents and I'm white as hell.
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Leperflesh posted:I dunno. Affairs don't seem to do the damage they used to. They definitely damage democrats more than republicans for some reason, but... I think people are just a lot more forgiving of that kind of thing now? I don't trust politicians who haven't been found having an affair. 
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Frankly, one of the biggest political problems with California is we're a "liberal" state that can't seem to field Democratic candidates that aren't either completely ineffectual or mostly corrupt, but those candidates keep getting elected easily because the other side is SO BAD. I hate Feinstein and think she's done a lot to make us less safe while lining the pockets of her family, but I still voted for her every time she came up for election.
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Baby Babbeh posted:Frankly, one of the biggest political problems with California is we're a "liberal" state that can't seem to field Democratic candidates that aren't either completely ineffectual or mostly corrupt, but those candidates keep getting elected easily because the other side is SO BAD. I hate Feinstein and think she's done a lot to make us less safe while lining the pockets of her family, but I still voted for her every time she came up for election. Remember, only 28% of Californians consider themselves liberals so to stay in power the Democrats have to look elsewhere for support too.
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While we're talking about politicians, what did you guys think of George Miller when he was in office? I got to meet him in a social setting not too long ago and the guys hilarious.
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nm posted:Goddamn, before I moved, I'd have killed to be less than 3 miles from a 99 ranch or sf. Seriously! They're great stores and one of my favorite parts of being in Orange County.
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